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  • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

    BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

    Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

    avacadoavenger@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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    #13

    @meganmariehart

    I saw it and gave it a star. Reach is hard to quantify.

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    • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

      BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

      Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

      megatronicthronbanks@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #14

      @meganmariehart Aye

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      • geepawhill@mastodon.socialG geepawhill@mastodon.social

        @meganmariehart Swear to god, hashtags mostly just annoy me. I follow people. They boost people. I pick and choose from their boosteds.

        johkra@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        johkra@mastodon.social
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        #15

        @GeePawHill @meganmariehart
        But for some IT IS easy to follow certain Hashtags they are interested in.

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        • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

          BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

          Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

          meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #16

          (Nobody actually asked why, but I imagine someone must have thought it.) Curiosity is one reason, the other is a recent offline discussion about whether we are hindering a more wide spread adoption of the Fediverse because we dislike advertisements. It’s possible that brands and “influencer”-type people aren’t getting the kick they’re used to from the Fediverse because there are no metrics showing how many people have seen a post. Perhaps it’s different with your own instance – I don’t know!
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          • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

            (Nobody actually asked why, but I imagine someone must have thought it.) Curiosity is one reason, the other is a recent offline discussion about whether we are hindering a more wide spread adoption of the Fediverse because we dislike advertisements. It’s possible that brands and “influencer”-type people aren’t getting the kick they’re used to from the Fediverse because there are no metrics showing how many people have seen a post. Perhaps it’s different with your own instance – I don’t know!
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            meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #17

            For the sake of argument, let’s assume that people would want to test the waters by creating an account on an established instance before committing to setting up their own, even if they have the necessary knowledge and funds. I think people have become accustomed to the insane numbers on commercial social media: millions of views, thousands of likes and hundreds of comments. (I have never been part of this; my profession is too niche. Classical music accounts for just 2–5% of music sales,
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            • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

              For the sake of argument, let’s assume that people would want to test the waters by creating an account on an established instance before committing to setting up their own, even if they have the necessary knowledge and funds. I think people have become accustomed to the insane numbers on commercial social media: millions of views, thousands of likes and hundreds of comments. (I have never been part of this; my profession is too niche. Classical music accounts for just 2–5% of music sales,
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              meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #18

              … and opera is primarily a live art form, so its market share is so small as to be essentially unmeasurable. I never bothered to find out how many people I reach vs how many interactions a post gets. I really couldn’t care less!) Brands and “Influencer”-minded people, even people just used to commercial socials testing the fediverse might feel like it is not working for them and leave again, so I was wondering about the *potential* reach of a toot.
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              • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

                … and opera is primarily a live art form, so its market share is so small as to be essentially unmeasurable. I never bothered to find out how many people I reach vs how many interactions a post gets. I really couldn’t care less!) Brands and “Influencer”-minded people, even people just used to commercial socials testing the fediverse might feel like it is not working for them and leave again, so I was wondering about the *potential* reach of a toot.
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                meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                #19

                I feel like I get more meaningful interaction (and perhaps even ticket sales!) from a Mastodon post about an upcoming show than from posts on other social media platforms. But a “feeling” dosen’t help when trying to convince people to join. Or to get active. My current theater @staatstheaterdarmstadt is on here since 2022 – zero posts! I would like them to get active or even set up their own instance. I think every theater should have its own instance! It can’t be more work than FB and IG.
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                • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

                  I feel like I get more meaningful interaction (and perhaps even ticket sales!) from a Mastodon post about an upcoming show than from posts on other social media platforms. But a “feeling” dosen’t help when trying to convince people to join. Or to get active. My current theater @staatstheaterdarmstadt is on here since 2022 – zero posts! I would like them to get active or even set up their own instance. I think every theater should have its own instance! It can’t be more work than FB and IG.
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                  meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #20

                  All theaters have websites. I’m not tech-savvy (my husband takes care of that for me), but it seems to me that if you have a website and domain, setting up a Mastodon server can’t be that hard. Perhaps it’s even possible to run it as an outlet only, then they wouldn’t have to deal with moderation. I think every publicly funded entity should have a presence on the Fediverse instead of commercial social media. (Or at least in addition to.) My experimental toot is meant to create an example …
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                  • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

                    BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

                    Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

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                    #21

                    @meganmariehart Saw this in the Trending section.

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                    • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

                      All theaters have websites. I’m not tech-savvy (my husband takes care of that for me), but it seems to me that if you have a website and domain, setting up a Mastodon server can’t be that hard. Perhaps it’s even possible to run it as an outlet only, then they wouldn’t have to deal with moderation. I think every publicly funded entity should have a presence on the Fediverse instead of commercial social media. (Or at least in addition to.) My experimental toot is meant to create an example …
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                      #22

                      … to demonstrate that Fediverse posts are worth the time and effort. Perhaps there is also an argument for a feature request: maybe there should be audience metrics for toots?! Though I imagine that could be difficult due to Federation. Again, I have no idea if one already gets numbers and insight by running an instance.)

                      Perhaps we can move beyond numbers in the long run, but for now, I fear people enjoy them even if they gain nothing from them. Kinda like a game highscore, I suppose.

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                      patrick@retro.socialP hc@mastodon.africaH farbel@mas.toF ahltorp@mastodon.nuA sonjaschuh01@academiccloud.socialS 5 Replies Last reply
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                      • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

                        BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

                        Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

                        mdione@en.osm.townM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #23

                        @meganmariehart Edit: oh, my instance only had your first toot. The other 6 appeared only once I replied here. Kinda ignore.

                        Original: could you edit this toot when you're done? I'm interested, but if I bookmark it, it'll just go into the how-come-it-has-not-toppled-yet pile of to-reads :-G

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                        • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

                          (Nobody actually asked why, but I imagine someone must have thought it.) Curiosity is one reason, the other is a recent offline discussion about whether we are hindering a more wide spread adoption of the Fediverse because we dislike advertisements. It’s possible that brands and “influencer”-type people aren’t getting the kick they’re used to from the Fediverse because there are no metrics showing how many people have seen a post. Perhaps it’s different with your own instance – I don’t know!
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                          art_histories@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #24

                          @meganmariehart I indeed think that the fediverse is not as attractive for people rely on social marketing. No metrics, no algo. You have to built up your presence by hard work, there are no "brand opportunities". For a lot of people this would break their business, for others this would break their ego.

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                          • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

                            BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

                            Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

                            mdione@en.osm.townM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #25

                            @meganmariehart I once run an experiment similar to yours. I asked people to boost a toot with a URL to a webserver I controlled, no hashtags either. It got <3k boosts. Yours will probably get similar numbers. At that point, IIRC, the Fedi (or was it just Mastodon?) was ~2M accounts, so it reached ~15% of the net. I wrote abut it here:

                            https://www.grulic.org.ar/~mdione/glob/posts/the-mastodon-effect-meta-discussion/

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                            • mdione@en.osm.townM mdione@en.osm.town

                              @meganmariehart I once run an experiment similar to yours. I asked people to boost a toot with a URL to a webserver I controlled, no hashtags either. It got <3k boosts. Yours will probably get similar numbers. At that point, IIRC, the Fedi (or was it just Mastodon?) was ~2M accounts, so it reached ~15% of the net. I wrote abut it here:

                              https://www.grulic.org.ar/~mdione/glob/posts/the-mastodon-effect-meta-discussion/

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                              mdione@en.osm.townM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #26

                              @meganmariehart But hashtags are the best way to reach people. You mention a theater. They should post with hashtags of their region of influence (city, province, etc), the type of œvre (opera, music, etc) and maybe a couple more. They should sniff around until they find the right ones. I wish there were tools for that, hmmm...

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                              • mdione@en.osm.townM mdione@en.osm.town

                                @meganmariehart But hashtags are the best way to reach people. You mention a theater. They should post with hashtags of their region of influence (city, province, etc), the type of œvre (opera, music, etc) and maybe a couple more. They should sniff around until they find the right ones. I wish there were tools for that, hmmm...

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                                mdione@en.osm.townM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #27

                                Hey #fediverse ! (See?) Is there a tool that would help find popular hashtags? This should help newcomers, specially institutions like theaters, find ways to reach more people here!

                                @meganmariehart

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                                • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

                                  … to demonstrate that Fediverse posts are worth the time and effort. Perhaps there is also an argument for a feature request: maybe there should be audience metrics for toots?! Though I imagine that could be difficult due to Federation. Again, I have no idea if one already gets numbers and insight by running an instance.)

                                  Perhaps we can move beyond numbers in the long run, but for now, I fear people enjoy them even if they gain nothing from them. Kinda like a game highscore, I suppose.

                                  7/7

                                  patrick@retro.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #28

                                  @meganmariehart You're posting links to the shows, and you seem to be reasonably well connected on the Fediverse - you could pick one to leave out (together with the theatre's media team) and they could check their analysis tools to see how much of a dent that makes to website traffic.

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                                  • mdione@en.osm.townM mdione@en.osm.town

                                    Hey #fediverse ! (See?) Is there a tool that would help find popular hashtags? This should help newcomers, specially institutions like theaters, find ways to reach more people here!

                                    @meganmariehart

                                    meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #29

                                    @mdione My idea was to test the potential reach of a post without hashtags, basically just for the sake of discussion. After all, it's not just about finding an existing audience, but also about building one. (There are some bots that post trending tags, I figure it should be possbile to tweak one of them to show hashtags used in connection to a specific topic?)
                                    Thank you!

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                                    • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

                                      All theaters have websites. I’m not tech-savvy (my husband takes care of that for me), but it seems to me that if you have a website and domain, setting up a Mastodon server can’t be that hard. Perhaps it’s even possible to run it as an outlet only, then they wouldn’t have to deal with moderation. I think every publicly funded entity should have a presence on the Fediverse instead of commercial social media. (Or at least in addition to.) My experimental toot is meant to create an example …
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                                      #30

                                      @meganmariehart Many theaters have websites that run via the software WordPress. All they have to do is install a plugin (and to take 10 minutes reviewing the settings) and their website is connected to the Fediverse. Even less work.

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                                      • G goodlucksil@social.tchncs.de

                                        @meganmariehart Very first post on my "trending" feed, so quite popular, E guess.

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                                        #31

                                        @Goodlucksil Isn’t that wild? I did NOT expect that. But that’s perfect for my purpose. I’ve edited the post to explain why I made this request. Thank you!

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                                        • metalbrawler@ieji.deM metalbrawler@ieji.de

                                          @meganmariehart If you don't add hashtags, you miss the audience that follows a particular hashtag. Those people are potential new subscribers.

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                                          #32

                                          @metalbrawler I wanted to test the potential reach of a post without hashtags, basically just for the sake of discussion. My home theater has a Mastodon account since 2022 but never posted anything! Perhaps I can convince them to get active if I can show them a posts potential, and maybe other theaters and artists will join. Fingers crossed!🤞
                                          Thank you!

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