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  • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

    do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

    my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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    #32

    @b0rk

    I love the man bash
    But although the lvm commands man. With useful examples that cover lot of case !

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    • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

      do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

      my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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      #33

      @b0rk I do like it too, even thought it makes the man page 7195 lines long 😃 .

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      • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

        do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

        my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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        #34

        @b0rk I don't believe to have a favourite. Yet, due to the rule (rather 'tip') "'Select' Isn't Broken", select(2) and the corresponding story behind the tip from the book "Pragmatic Programmer" comes to my mind 🙂

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        • derickr@phpc.socialD derickr@phpc.social

          @b0rk I do like it too, even thought it makes the man page 7195 lines long 😃 .

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          #35

          @derickr @b0rk

          ❤ It's searchable.

          That makes it alright. 😄

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          • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

            do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

            my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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            #36

            @b0rk my favourite was an early version of less(1), whose one-line synopsis was:

            less - better than more(1)

            Which it was, because you could go _backwards_... that was the first program I ever compiled from downloaded source.

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            • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

              do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

              my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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              #37

              I think my favourite man page example so far is this rsync man page (via @shnizmuffin) https://www.man7.org/linux/man-pages/man1/rsync.1.html

              it gives examples BEFORE giving an exhaustive list of options!

              the synopsis just says "rsync [OPTION...] SRC... [DEST]" instead of giving you an exhaustive list of options like "-ABCFGHILOPRSTUWabcdefghiklmnopqrstuvwxy1%"!

              there's an "OPTION SUMMARY" section that gives you a 1-line summary of each option! (this feels SO SO much useful than the normal SYNOPSIS to me)

              (2/?)

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              • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

                my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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                #38

                @b0rk it's also my favourite hairstyle

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                • pounce@types.plP pounce@types.pl

                  @b0rk i always think hier(7) is really neat

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                  #39

                  @pounce that's cool, I'd never seen that

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                  • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                    @shnizmuffin what do you like about it? (also: you mean this one right? https://linux.die.net/man/1/rsync)

                    i like that it takes a different approach to the SYNOPSIS and puts examples before the comprehensive list of all options, I haven't seen that a lot

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                    #40

                    @b0rk It leads with examples from most common to least common, and sorts its many options following similar logic.

                    It's basically ...

                    1. WTF am I looking at. (--verbose et al)
                    2. Sensible defaults (--archive)
                    3. How do I change one thing (--no-OPTION)
                    4. Filepath stuff
                    5. Link stuff
                    6. Permission stuff
                    7. File metadata stuff
                    8. Config stuff
                    9. Filter stuff
                    10. Shit one person needed once
                    11. --human-readable
                    12. please don't run forever
                    13. --version, --help

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                    • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                      I think my favourite man page example so far is this rsync man page (via @shnizmuffin) https://www.man7.org/linux/man-pages/man1/rsync.1.html

                      it gives examples BEFORE giving an exhaustive list of options!

                      the synopsis just says "rsync [OPTION...] SRC... [DEST]" instead of giving you an exhaustive list of options like "-ABCFGHILOPRSTUWabcdefghiklmnopqrstuvwxy1%"!

                      there's an "OPTION SUMMARY" section that gives you a 1-line summary of each option! (this feels SO SO much useful than the normal SYNOPSIS to me)

                      (2/?)

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                      #41

                      @b0rk @shnizmuffin if something needs a solid man page, it's probably rsync. 😄

                      Destroyer of files.
                      With great power comes great responsibility.

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                      • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                        do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

                        my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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                        #42

                        @b0rk@jvns.ca i often work offline, so i like long and elaborate man pages that go into every absurd detail but also note in-program help mechanisms

                        • nvim because it provides a jump start to :Tutor and :help quickref
                        • zshall because it explains All the syntax
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                        • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                          do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

                          my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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                          #43

                          @b0rk In the attention to detail category, the BUG detailed in the NetBSD sleep(1) man page is a favourite:

                          https://man.netbsd.org/sleep.1#BUGS

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                          • shnizmuffin@toots.inbutts.lolS shnizmuffin@toots.inbutts.lol

                            @b0rk It leads with examples from most common to least common, and sorts its many options following similar logic.

                            It's basically ...

                            1. WTF am I looking at. (--verbose et al)
                            2. Sensible defaults (--archive)
                            3. How do I change one thing (--no-OPTION)
                            4. Filepath stuff
                            5. Link stuff
                            6. Permission stuff
                            7. File metadata stuff
                            8. Config stuff
                            9. Filter stuff
                            10. Shit one person needed once
                            11. --human-readable
                            12. please don't run forever
                            13. --version, --help

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                            #44

                            @shnizmuffin i didn’t even notice the option sorting, that’s so good

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                            • ludonaut@timetheft.socialL ludonaut@timetheft.social

                              @thomastc @b0rk glad to help 🙂

                              i regularly use that page to show the young ones at work why ^H (Ctrl-H) is backspace, ^I is tab and ^[ is literally escape, it's just a flipped bit in ascii (which i suspect is the reason the columns are laid out like that)

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                              #45

                              @ludonaut @thomastc @b0rk Is my memory making up things, or did there used to be an ebcdic(7) page as well at some time?

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                              • pounce@types.plP pounce@types.pl

                                @b0rk i always think hier(7) is really neat

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                                #46

                                @pounce Oooooh, today I learned! @b0rk

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                                • nabnux@piaille.frN nabnux@piaille.fr

                                  @b0rk the one I've used the most is `man bash`, because it's not just a man page, it's the documentation for the whole scripting language!

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                                  #47

                                  @nabnux @b0rk many years ago I was told to read man bash. I referenced it many more times over the years. Mostly when scripting loops.

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                                  • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                                    @thatandromeda I have a hard time with them too, that's why I've been thinking about this

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                                    #48

                                    @b0rk @thatandromeda Often I pipe the output of `man` into `less`, then try to search for something like -n, which returns way too many results (e.g. mentions of that option before its definition). I wonder if a better `man` could be made that would let me search through an *index* of options instead of doing a full-text search.

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                                    • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                                      do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

                                      my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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                                      #49

                                      @b0rk Why were example usages shunned by many man pages I'll never understand.

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                                      • technicaladept@techhub.socialT technicaladept@techhub.social

                                        @nabnux @b0rk many years ago I was told to read man bash. I referenced it many more times over the years. Mostly when scripting loops.

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                                        #50

                                        @technicaladept @nabnux i think for bash specifically I might prefer to use the html bash reference manual to reference the docs https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bash.html (which I believe has the same content but with better formatting)

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                                        • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                                          I think my favourite man page example so far is this rsync man page (via @shnizmuffin) https://www.man7.org/linux/man-pages/man1/rsync.1.html

                                          it gives examples BEFORE giving an exhaustive list of options!

                                          the synopsis just says "rsync [OPTION...] SRC... [DEST]" instead of giving you an exhaustive list of options like "-ABCFGHILOPRSTUWabcdefghiklmnopqrstuvwxy1%"!

                                          there's an "OPTION SUMMARY" section that gives you a 1-line summary of each option! (this feels SO SO much useful than the normal SYNOPSIS to me)

                                          (2/?)

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                                          #51

                                          @b0rk Special shout out to the official web address, since it's got hyperlinks on all the options:

                                          https://download.samba.org/pub/rsync/rsync.1

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