@NewtonMark @emmadavidson I suspect "cost" might be a big part of it?
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@NewtonMark @emmadavidson I suspect "cost" might be a big part of it?
I mean yeah, you could crunch several terabytes of astronomical or health data in AWS. But I suspect it would be significantly cheaper in NCI or Pawsey. -
@NewtonMark @emmadavidson I suspect "cost" might be a big part of it?
I mean yeah, you could crunch several terabytes of astronomical or health data in AWS. But I suspect it would be significantly cheaper in NCI or Pawsey.@aj @NewtonMark @emmadavidson Yes, it is cost and security. There are hyperscalers that could process faster but that would be at the expense of the other two factors. And of course you can only ever pick two of the three measures
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@aj @NewtonMark @emmadavidson Yes, it is cost and security. There are hyperscalers that could process faster but that would be at the expense of the other two factors. And of course you can only ever pick two of the three measures
@martintheg @NewtonMark @emmadavidson Security is definitely another huge one, given the current political climate in the US.
The current US Administration has shown it's willing to take action to shut down academic research it considers "woke".
It has also shown its willingness to attack a whole university to shut down a single research project or the free speech of a single academic it disagrees with.
If the edict ever came down to shut down a particular Australian university's access to AWS (or Azure or Google Cloud for that matter), the hyperscalers are unlikely to put up much resistance.
So even if you're working on an uncontroversial astronomy research, but you have a colleague in another faculty doing, say, vaccine research, that's a risk to your project. -
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@martintheg @NewtonMark @emmadavidson Security is definitely another huge one, given the current political climate in the US.
The current US Administration has shown it's willing to take action to shut down academic research it considers "woke".
It has also shown its willingness to attack a whole university to shut down a single research project or the free speech of a single academic it disagrees with.
If the edict ever came down to shut down a particular Australian university's access to AWS (or Azure or Google Cloud for that matter), the hyperscalers are unlikely to put up much resistance.
So even if you're working on an uncontroversial astronomy research, but you have a colleague in another faculty doing, say, vaccine research, that's a risk to your project.@aj @martintheg @NewtonMark @emmadavidson
️ for more reasons why #european #universities have to stop using #US #corporate #platforms - and do so now, no matter if #amazon, #google, #microsoft or whoever.
and there are more simple reasons too:
all of this can be done better and cheaper, using #europeanalternatives, as recently demonstrated in #denmarkThere is simply no reason to remain in #technologyLockIn.
