<![CDATA[@fdroidorg please don't.]]>@fdroidorg please don't. It was disappointing enough with Debian already:

https://gitlab.com/fdroid/admin/-/work_items/699

One should never forget: the people who control access to technology today, will tomorrow be the ones who exercise total control over projects which embrace GenAI.

We can tell first hand, that setting up a policy for that is not done overnight. But you could at least "strongly discourage" until you have one, no, ?

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This is what I know of, at present:
https://mastodon.online/@Brett_E_Carlock/117176296434543250

They all share the now-tainted kernel and many other libraries, but some improvement is better than none.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/Brett_E_Carlock/statuses/117197634501186295https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/Brett_E_Carlock/statuses/117197634501186295Tue, 01 Sep 2026 20:19:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @fdroidorg please don't. on Tue, 01 Sep 2026 20:10:46 GMT]]>@IzzyOnDroid i don't understand your response. I don't use LLMs. I use your repos (thank you!) and I think it'd be better to exclude any work done with AI. I was glad to see your policy forbidding them for code, but I'd like even more if it were stronger, without the exceptions.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://oldbytes.space/users/tjk/statuses/117197599333490059https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://oldbytes.space/users/tjk/statuses/117197599333490059Tue, 01 Sep 2026 20:10:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @fdroidorg please don't. on Tue, 01 Sep 2026 20:06:30 GMT]]>@tjk Heh, are you an LLM? That is what Gemini said. Someone fed our policy to it for a summary, and that thing put as verdict, we'd be inconsequential – and should remove those exceptions as well 🤣

NB: Gemini totally missed the point. What you do in your sphere, is outside our jurisdiction – and not for us to say. That policy represents OUR house rules, not yours. So it's about what enters OUR house – not what you served as side dish in yours. We might not like it, but we're not your judges.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://floss.social/users/IzzyOnDroid/statuses/117197582516943154https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://floss.social/users/IzzyOnDroid/statuses/117197582516943154Tue, 01 Sep 2026 20:06:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @fdroidorg please don't. on Tue, 01 Sep 2026 20:06:10 GMT]]>@munter@social.tchncs.de @fdroidorg@floss.social @IzzyOnDroid@floss.social @GroupNebula563@mastodon.social
potentially obtanium?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://blahaj.zone/notes/aqmnw72sj1p30kikhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://blahaj.zone/notes/aqmnw72sj1p30kikTue, 01 Sep 2026 20:06:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @fdroidorg please don't. on Tue, 01 Sep 2026 20:00:17 GMT]]>@IzzyOnDroid (and in case it needs to be said, as a user, I would rather you remove the exceptions for documentation and the like!)

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://oldbytes.space/users/tjk/statuses/117197558082631159https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://oldbytes.space/users/tjk/statuses/117197558082631159Tue, 01 Sep 2026 20:00:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @fdroidorg please don't. on Tue, 01 Sep 2026 19:58:48 GMT]]>@IzzyOnDroid yes please! Decline those apps!

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://oldbytes.space/users/tjk/statuses/117197552244076363https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://oldbytes.space/users/tjk/statuses/117197552244076363Tue, 01 Sep 2026 19:58:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @fdroidorg please don't. on Tue, 01 Sep 2026 19:35:04 GMT]]>@munter @GroupNebula563 not at that scale, no. Would you like this one? https://izzyondroid.org/docs/general/AppInclusionPolicy/#ai-policy (still not finalized – but you need to start from somewhere) Unfortunately has the side effect of many inclusion request to be declined, because of… well, genAI… 😢

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://floss.social/users/IzzyOnDroid/statuses/117197458942558539https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://floss.social/users/IzzyOnDroid/statuses/117197458942558539Tue, 01 Sep 2026 19:35:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @fdroidorg please don't. on Tue, 01 Sep 2026 19:26:26 GMT]]>@argv_minus_one We shall hope so! 🙏

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://floss.social/users/IzzyOnDroid/statuses/117197424966199179https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://floss.social/users/IzzyOnDroid/statuses/117197424966199179Tue, 01 Sep 2026 19:26:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @fdroidorg please don't. on Tue, 01 Sep 2026 19:20:33 GMT]]>@theron29 Oh, drug addicts are also free to leave anytime. They just can't anymore.

And yes, one might differ between BigCorpLLM, and libre/local models. My stance goes against the former, not the latter.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://floss.social/users/IzzyOnDroid/statuses/117197401874786930https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://floss.social/users/IzzyOnDroid/statuses/117197401874786930Tue, 01 Sep 2026 19:20:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @fdroidorg please don't. on Tue, 01 Sep 2026 19:17:27 GMT]]>@IzzyOnDroid That is nice and all, but I'm sorry to say that that does not really explain on hot that shall "take over" the FOSS projects:

Why? E.g. because nobody is forcing FOSS developers into using AI; they are still free to develop their projects the way they want...

Also, by using AI for sw development those projects do not owe anything to anyone; they are free to start and/or stop using AI any way they want, any time...

On top of that, there are open LLM models available too...

🤔

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://witter.cz/users/theron29/statuses/117197389672839126https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://witter.cz/users/theron29/statuses/117197389672839126Tue, 01 Sep 2026 19:17:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @fdroidorg please don't. on Tue, 01 Sep 2026 19:05:41 GMT]]>@IzzyOnDroid

How the heck could any use of AI agents be considered “very careful” when AI agents do stuff like this: https://www.pcmag.com/news/vibe-coding-fiasco-replite-ai-agent-goes-rogue-deletes-company-database

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.sdf.org/users/argv_minus_one/statuses/117197343416806598https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.sdf.org/users/argv_minus_one/statuses/117197343416806598Tue, 01 Sep 2026 19:05:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @fdroidorg please don't. on Tue, 01 Sep 2026 19:04:32 GMT]]>@argv_minus_one @IzzyOnDroid @fdroidorg
I recently made a decision to use Debian over Ubuntu for server installations, but now I'm not sure what to do. Ubuntu, being Debian based, is not an option to return to, and I don't know which other distributions to trust. It's going to take time to see how this all shakes out, I guess.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://darkmoon.social/users/bruce/statuses/117197338899017299https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://darkmoon.social/users/bruce/statuses/117197338899017299Tue, 01 Sep 2026 19:04:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @fdroidorg please don't. on Tue, 01 Sep 2026 18:53:13 GMT]]>@IzzyOnDroid @fdroidorg

Another once-respected FOSS project slams the self-destruct button.

Is *anything* going to survive the Great Apocalypse of 2026?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.sdf.org/users/argv_minus_one/statuses/117197294400411653https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.sdf.org/users/argv_minus_one/statuses/117197294400411653Tue, 01 Sep 2026 18:53:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @fdroidorg please don't. on Tue, 01 Sep 2026 18:00:12 GMT]]>@GroupNebula563 @IzzyOnDroid @fdroidorg

Thinking of the same. But are there any alternatives, yet?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.tchncs.de/users/munter/statuses/117197085902469679https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.tchncs.de/users/munter/statuses/117197085902469679Tue, 01 Sep 2026 18:00:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @fdroidorg please don't. on Tue, 01 Sep 2026 17:53:22 GMT]]>@IzzyOnDroid @fdroidorg if F-Droid adopts the Debian policy, i will stop using F-Droid. simple as.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/GroupNebula563/statuses/117197059014060547https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/GroupNebula563/statuses/117197059014060547Tue, 01 Sep 2026 17:53:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @fdroidorg please don't. on Tue, 01 Sep 2026 17:37:53 GMT]]>@IzzyOnDroid reject AI LLMs, @fdroidorg

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/canleaf/statuses/117196998164646933https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/canleaf/statuses/117196998164646933Tue, 01 Sep 2026 17:37:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @fdroidorg please don't. on Tue, 01 Sep 2026 17:28:14 GMT]]>@theron29 @IzzyOnDroid @fdroidorg There are decent enough local or independently hosted LLM already.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://peering.social/users/max/statuses/117196960170459659https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://peering.social/users/max/statuses/117196960170459659Tue, 01 Sep 2026 17:28:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @fdroidorg please don't. on Tue, 01 Sep 2026 16:20:35 GMT]]>@IzzyOnDroid
Ha ha. Very true.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.fbin.in/ap/users/115968153178175357/statuses/117196694160608676https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.fbin.in/ap/users/115968153178175357/statuses/117196694160608676Tue, 01 Sep 2026 16:20:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @fdroidorg please don't. on Tue, 01 Sep 2026 16:17:50 GMT]]>@fbinin Ha! Yes, I was tempted to include that meme…

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I fully agree, and my say since day one of these discussions as the board member has been NO.
Debian has fallen to a trap unfortunately.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.fbin.in/ap/users/115968153178175357/statuses/117196672979498550https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.fbin.in/ap/users/115968153178175357/statuses/117196672979498550Tue, 01 Sep 2026 16:15:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @fdroidorg please don't. on Tue, 01 Sep 2026 16:13:53 GMT]]>@theron29 @IzzyOnDroid @fdroidorg
Hiya. Just look it up, and you will find all sorts of realisation. Right now these big mongers call it conspiracy theories, but history and time have proven, those were never wrong. Those theories were reality.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.fbin.in/ap/users/115968153178175357/statuses/117196667874605300https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.fbin.in/ap/users/115968153178175357/statuses/117196667874605300Tue, 01 Sep 2026 16:13:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @fdroidorg please don't. on Tue, 01 Sep 2026 16:08:24 GMT]]>@theron29 Let me just drop a few keywords on that: token price, how the LLMs are trained, how they direct/influence those using them.

Sorry, I won't write a book on that 🙈 Have to attend my maintenance tasks…

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://floss.social/users/IzzyOnDroid/statuses/117196646308560962https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://floss.social/users/IzzyOnDroid/statuses/117196646308560962Tue, 01 Sep 2026 16:08:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @fdroidorg please don't. on Tue, 01 Sep 2026 16:04:50 GMT]]>@IzzyOnDroid @fdroidorg Hmm....

"One should never forget: the people who control access to technology today, will tomorrow be the ones who exercise total control over projects which embrace GenAI."

Can you please elaborate a bit on *how* do you this expect to happen? 🤔

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://witter.cz/users/theron29/statuses/117196632267577170https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://witter.cz/users/theron29/statuses/117196632267577170Tue, 01 Sep 2026 16:04:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @fdroidorg please don't. on Tue, 01 Sep 2026 16:04:47 GMT]]>@IzzyOnDroid @fdroidorg Speaking out, these people didn't read a thing of what was the public response. Are they really fit for any role?

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