<![CDATA[Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it?]]>Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? Nanna Inie and I have got you covered:

https://buttondown.com/maiht3k/archive/how-to-talk-about-ai-without-adding-to-the/

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/1723be49-83d2-4f87-b04a-a92e2a7b4672/are-you-annoyed-with-the-anthropomorphizing-language-being-used-in-the-ai-discourse-but-not-sure-how-to-talk-about-this-stuff-without-itRSS for NodeSun, 28 Jun 2026 10:47:59 GMTThu, 25 Jun 2026 14:06:04 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? on Fri, 26 Jun 2026 11:23:07 GMT]]>@emilymbender

« Pronouns are chosen each time, and avoiding pronouns usually reserved for people (and pets), e.g. he, she, and singular they is a good first step. »

Isn't singular they "it"?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://jasette.facil.services/users/MichelPatrice/statuses/116816149676321624https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://jasette.facil.services/users/MichelPatrice/statuses/116816149676321624Fri, 26 Jun 2026 11:23:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? on Fri, 26 Jun 2026 11:15:46 GMT]]>@emilymbender

« hallucination → undesirable output »

Why not a more straighforward "erroneous outpout"?

An undesirable result could a result that is accurate but that is not the one I am looking for. A made-up quote is more than undesirable, it is erroneous.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://jasette.facil.services/users/MichelPatrice/statuses/116816120784353156https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://jasette.facil.services/users/MichelPatrice/statuses/116816120784353156Fri, 26 Jun 2026 11:15:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? on Fri, 26 Jun 2026 11:00:45 GMT]]>@emilymbender As we used to say, 'Knowledge wants to be free! But maybe it does not want to be anthropomorphized'

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.dk/users/mjj/statuses/116816061751426791https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.dk/users/mjj/statuses/116816061751426791Fri, 26 Jun 2026 11:00:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? on Fri, 26 Jun 2026 08:28:28 GMT]]>@emilymbender

Super interesting topic, thank you. For wider adoption I think it would be desirable to find alternatives that are also neutral in their sentiment. I spent some time thinking about "agentic AI" where the proposed alternative was "probabilistic, unverified software manipulator" which I think is very far from neutral. What do you think about "language-guided iterative solver"?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/stitam/statuses/116815462974178988https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/stitam/statuses/116815462974178988Fri, 26 Jun 2026 08:28:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? on Fri, 26 Jun 2026 05:17:25 GMT]]>@laslab @emilymbender @Petesmom @Mimesatwork

> factuality violation has a connotation that all other output is factual right

But that is the case, even if only by accident!

No, my reservation is that it suggests a formal error condition, like zerodivide or floating-point overflow, when in reality it is just a variant of normal operation. You cannot even know it happened until you, as a human, introduce external information...

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fediscience.org/users/martinvermeer/statuses/116814711725558609https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fediscience.org/users/martinvermeer/statuses/116814711725558609Fri, 26 Jun 2026 05:17:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? on Fri, 26 Jun 2026 05:06:17 GMT]]>@emilymbender
I read it and I agree with what you wrote. I'm saying that if we stick to the LLM definition, automatically there is no intelligence. But I'm no expert.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.uno/users/Imprinted/statuses/116814667964553627https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.uno/users/Imprinted/statuses/116814667964553627Fri, 26 Jun 2026 05:06:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? on Fri, 26 Jun 2026 04:20:28 GMT]]>@Imprinted Wow -- did you reply without reading the newsletter in the post you're responding to or did you read it and decide that you needed to share this wisdom with me?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://dair-community.social/users/emilymbender/statuses/116814487753319482https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://dair-community.social/users/emilymbender/statuses/116814487753319482Fri, 26 Jun 2026 04:20:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? on Fri, 26 Jun 2026 03:59:45 GMT]]>@emilymbender
Call it LLM, because "AI" is a marketing proposition.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.uno/users/Imprinted/statuses/116814406342158128https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.uno/users/Imprinted/statuses/116814406342158128Fri, 26 Jun 2026 03:59:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? on Fri, 26 Jun 2026 00:48:29 GMT]]>@emilymbender "synthetic text extruding machine" is a mouthful, but is also very funny yet very fitting

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://maly.io/users/ScriptFanix/statuses/116813654202799343https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://maly.io/users/ScriptFanix/statuses/116813654202799343Fri, 26 Jun 2026 00:48:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? on Fri, 26 Jun 2026 00:38:06 GMT]]>@kelson @emilymbender I've been calling my computer names for decades now

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/iamnotU/statuses/116813613423683712https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/iamnotU/statuses/116813613423683712Fri, 26 Jun 2026 00:38:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? on Fri, 26 Jun 2026 00:18:27 GMT]]>@iamnotU @emilymbender To be fair, I've been naming my computers for decades now

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://notes.kvibber.com/users/kelson/statuses/01KW0MNKCAG45M7BC3HGD02D2Rhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://notes.kvibber.com/users/kelson/statuses/01KW0MNKCAG45M7BC3HGD02D2RFri, 26 Jun 2026 00:18:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? on Fri, 26 Jun 2026 00:07:10 GMT]]>@emilymbender Yes, I'm reading it now. Stupid me for assuming anything would be too flagrant to be included.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tenforward.social/users/strange_new_words/statuses/116813491777798192https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tenforward.social/users/strange_new_words/statuses/116813491777798192Fri, 26 Jun 2026 00:07:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? on Fri, 26 Jun 2026 00:01:35 GMT]]>@strange_new_words yes, as described in the linked post under names and pronouns.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://dair-community.social/users/emilymbender/statuses/116813469798622901https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://dair-community.social/users/emilymbender/statuses/116813469798622901Fri, 26 Jun 2026 00:01:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? on Thu, 25 Jun 2026 23:57:22 GMT]]>@emilymbender I did an AI training yesterday and the trainer referred to his various Copilot agents as "he" and "she." Would that be considered at all anthropomorphizing language?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tenforward.social/users/strange_new_words/statuses/116813453218683334https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tenforward.social/users/strange_new_words/statuses/116813453218683334Thu, 25 Jun 2026 23:57:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? on Thu, 25 Jun 2026 22:59:25 GMT]]>@kevinashworth PUSMic FTW!

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://dair-community.social/users/emilymbender/statuses/116813225340734108https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://dair-community.social/users/emilymbender/statuses/116813225340734108Thu, 25 Jun 2026 22:59:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? on Thu, 25 Jun 2026 22:59:12 GMT]]>@toadjaune Je crois que les mêmes stratégies doivent fonctionner assez bien.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://dair-community.social/users/emilymbender/statuses/116813224516758894https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://dair-community.social/users/emilymbender/statuses/116813224516758894Thu, 25 Jun 2026 22:59:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? on Thu, 25 Jun 2026 22:48:38 GMT]]>@emilymbender now I so want the same resource in French.

I've been struggling with exactly this

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hostux.social/users/toadjaune/statuses/116813182946057407https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hostux.social/users/toadjaune/statuses/116813182946057407Thu, 25 Jun 2026 22:48:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? on Thu, 25 Jun 2026 21:48:22 GMT]]>@emilymbender
You had me at probabilistic, unverified software manipulator.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/kevinashworth/statuses/116812945963345073https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/kevinashworth/statuses/116812945963345073Thu, 25 Jun 2026 21:48:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? on Thu, 25 Jun 2026 21:14:37 GMT]]>@jeffcampo @emilymbender

I am _so_ going to use "predictive [text] slot-machine"

In Spain we call slot machines "tragaperras" which translates roughly to "coin swallowers".

I think it also fits.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/josemariadebona/statuses/116812813290356581https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/josemariadebona/statuses/116812813290356581Thu, 25 Jun 2026 21:14:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? on Thu, 25 Jun 2026 21:01:31 GMT]]>@emilymbender yes finding human pronouns a misfit. "It" nearly works but animals can be it. I'm experimenting with ko/kör (2nd) and zo/ze/zy (1st), so I have standing instructions for the LLM to produce e.g. "let ze generate this", "Zo generated that" and I respond chance kor approach. They are reminiscent to me of mathematical terms. Just a personal experiment.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://c.im/users/wwkudu/statuses/116812761745850523https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://c.im/users/wwkudu/statuses/116812761745850523Thu, 25 Jun 2026 21:01:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? on Thu, 25 Jun 2026 20:51:44 GMT]]>@emilymbender Thanks! Going to organise a very necessary discussion in the fablab community about probabilistic systems and this helps a lot.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://waag.social/users/laslab/statuses/116812723297302388https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://waag.social/users/laslab/statuses/116812723297302388Thu, 25 Jun 2026 20:51:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? on Thu, 25 Jun 2026 20:47:27 GMT]]>@martinvermeer @emilymbender @Petesmom @Mimesatwork
Undesirable output doesn’t feel right for me either, bur factuality violation has a connotation that all other output is factual right. I would approach it from a control system view (yes, I’m an engineer :-P) and call it error accumulation or windup.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://waag.social/users/laslab/statuses/116812706427362418https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://waag.social/users/laslab/statuses/116812706427362418Thu, 25 Jun 2026 20:47:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? on Thu, 25 Jun 2026 20:39:11 GMT]]>@emilymbender

While the idea is nice, the words you propose are too long and complicated. Saying "probabilistic, unverified software manipulator" is a tongue twister by itself.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/13reak/statuses/116812673958401317https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/13reak/statuses/116812673958401317Thu, 25 Jun 2026 20:39:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? on Thu, 25 Jun 2026 20:22:39 GMT]]>@emilymbender yes! So annoyed! Thank you for this.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://indieweb.social/users/Tode/statuses/116812608917505182https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://indieweb.social/users/Tode/statuses/116812608917505182Thu, 25 Jun 2026 20:22:39 GMT