@antanicus I'm thinking back to the book I read last year, and wondering what that means for the LER. Could it be higher than 2?

“Shade is supposed to be the enemy of a farm”

I thought that the fact that some plants thrive in the sunlight and some thrive in the shade was pretty much obviously known

And that at least farmers would know that which plants are which depend both on the plant and the location / climate where you're trying to grow them

And that the non obvious bit that requires nontrivial experiments is actually finding out which ones are which in the various places in a changing climate

They still exist in various ways with differences in different countries.

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Next on his list: remove all solarpanels.

It is just the science about plants that has shown that for a long time. Well known scientific facts.

(I will stop here.. )

Offensichtlich ist diese Technik noch nicht sehr verbreitet.

@antanicus

Pilot projects in Southern Germany have shown similar effects with apple orchards. It has become too hot and sunny for the types of apples traditionally grown in the region.

Another topic for growing apples is hail, which can destroy the fruits. Solar panels also provide protection against hail. (Well, until the hailstorms get so desastrous that they also kill solar panels, okay.)

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I’m worried about the long term effect of techno trash being broken in fields and not quite picked up and driven over etc etc etc. It’s f’n hard enough to clean up old farms full of rusty iron and tilled in ag plastic and those are relatively inert.

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The Romans, very early on would practice multi crop agriculture where a family could sustain itself on fairly small amount of land. I think it was under a hectare. Like a small percentage of a hectare. As the plow was introduced in farms became larger to produce a cash crop A family eventually began to need multiple hectares to sustain themselves

As with sugar or salt, one can have too much sun, especially as the Climate Crisis changes weather patterns and average amounts of daily sunlight.

Solar panels generate energy and shade, both of which can be good things, if used correctly.

This doesn’t seem to be mystery meat. Direct sunlight require plants to cool themselves by evaporating moisture.

It’s almost like plants do better with partial shade. You know like tree cover things like that a mixed environment with other plants whose roots are in the soil that diversify the soil biome creating more fertile environment, that recycles nutrients and water.