<![CDATA[Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it.]]>Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it.

You simply don’t need to.

You’re already in a far superior – non-corporate, federated – space.

Do not sign up for W. And warn your friends.

The only time you have any power to stop this is now. If they succeed in gaining network effects, you will be as powerless to stop them as you are with X.

And yes, they’re just another venture capital funded surveillance capitalist, people farmer, and burgeoning Nazi Bar. They just happen to be based in the EU. (As Nazi Bars traditionally have been.)

@_elena https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116770291207686239

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/1d1982d1-f313-447f-9f48-c7650e892ec1/needless-to-say-do-not-sign-up-for-w-or-give-them-your-id-information-no-matter-how-simple-they-eventually-manage-to-make-it.RSS for NodeFri, 19 Jun 2026 11:53:35 GMTThu, 18 Jun 2026 09:11:20 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it. on Thu, 18 Jun 2026 15:22:05 GMT]]>@aral

"Oh, look, yet another closed platform I don't want to be on" 🙄

Why would anyone sign up for W when there's Mastodon, Pixelfed, GoToSocial, Matrix/Synapse, and even bsky ... 🤔

Thank you, but ... I'd rather swallow rusty nails.

Ursula needs to get a grip. If anyone knows here, I'll be happy to have a sit-down with her and explain how this sh*t really works.

@_elena

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/joho/statuses/116771790862058749https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/joho/statuses/116771790862058749Thu, 18 Jun 2026 15:22:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it. on Thu, 18 Jun 2026 15:21:18 GMT]]>@aral Never heard about that dabblyou

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://nrw.social/users/magisternavis/statuses/116771787819876600https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://nrw.social/users/magisternavis/statuses/116771787819876600Thu, 18 Jun 2026 15:21:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it. on Thu, 18 Jun 2026 15:07:30 GMT]]>@aral @_elena people who commit to and normlaize are the worst there could be!

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116306723250896134/statuses/116771733554107350https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116306723250896134/statuses/116771733554107350Thu, 18 Jun 2026 15:07:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it. on Thu, 18 Jun 2026 14:52:52 GMT]]>@aral @_elena I welcome anything that competes with X - not that I will sign up. The more fragmented the better.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.africa/users/hc/statuses/116771676016963561https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.africa/users/hc/statuses/116771676016963561Thu, 18 Jun 2026 14:52:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it. on Thu, 18 Jun 2026 14:50:59 GMT]]>@aral @_elena@mastodon.social

Why was this needed? Everyone’s already sick of BlueSky? lol

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.art/users/xenophora/statuses/116771668585046747https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.art/users/xenophora/statuses/116771668585046747Thu, 18 Jun 2026 14:50:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it. on Thu, 18 Jun 2026 14:44:39 GMT]]>@aral @_elena
If this achieves network effect, they might even move in the future to outlaw the Fediverse's clients, protecting their interests, while citing protecting children/public interest.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/gharbeia/statuses/116771643706170978https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/gharbeia/statuses/116771643706170978Thu, 18 Jun 2026 14:44:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it. on Thu, 18 Jun 2026 14:39:40 GMT]]>@aral@mastodon.ar.al @_elena@mastodon.social wsocial identification app has THIS in their privacy policy:

5. Recipients and Sharing of Personal Data
5.1 Processors
We use third-party service providers that process personal data on our behalf under data processing agreements. These may include hosting providers, email providers, document verification providers, phone number verification providers, infrastructure providers, support providers and security service providers.
These providers may only process personal data according to our documented instructions and must protect the data in accordance with applicable data protection law.
5.2 Trust Anchor Group
Trust Anchor Group AB acts as a processor on our behalf. Trust Anchor Group maintains neuron server infrastructure used in the verification process and may perform manual reviews for us where automatic verification cannot be completed.
Where manual review is required, the reviewer may access the data necessary to complete the review. This may include passport image, selfie image, year of birth, nationality, verification status, and the reason why automatic verification could not be completed. If the passport image is not technically masked, the reviewer may also be able to see other information visible on the passport image.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://shonk.violet0461.de/notes/ann67eycjxuf0b34https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://shonk.violet0461.de/notes/ann67eycjxuf0b34Thu, 18 Jun 2026 14:39:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it. on Thu, 18 Jun 2026 14:33:44 GMT]]>@aral This is the first time I've heard of it

Also, calling it W is super lazy

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://pounced-on.me/users/spottyfox/statuses/116771600738096194https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://pounced-on.me/users/spottyfox/statuses/116771600738096194Thu, 18 Jun 2026 14:33:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it. on Thu, 18 Jun 2026 14:06:37 GMT]]>@aral @_elena 🤣

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.codefor.nl/ap/users/116141624676279948/statuses/116771494135324405https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.codefor.nl/ap/users/116141624676279948/statuses/116771494135324405Thu, 18 Jun 2026 14:06:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it. on Thu, 18 Jun 2026 14:01:26 GMT]]>@whasdah @aral @_elena
I disagree with your "not the answer" argument. I think goodwill is THE main ingredient of all good things.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hear-me.social/users/johntinker/statuses/116771473772485973https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hear-me.social/users/johntinker/statuses/116771473772485973Thu, 18 Jun 2026 14:01:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it. on Thu, 18 Jun 2026 13:53:19 GMT]]>@aral@mastodon.ar.al im gonna be honest, if someone saw “🇪🇺 European!” listed as a selling point for a social networking website, and actually found that more appealing than the Fediverse rather than repulsive, i would not stop them. They should sign up for W. They should join the fellow white supremacists on that website, they should join the EU nationalists on the Certified Aryan Social Network. i do not want them on my fedi they can go away

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://ublog.kimapr.net/objects/a04d969d-333d-42b0-9b17-e21521b1bb05https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://ublog.kimapr.net/objects/a04d969d-333d-42b0-9b17-e21521b1bb05Thu, 18 Jun 2026 13:53:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it. on Thu, 18 Jun 2026 13:39:02 GMT]]>@xChaos @aral the European Commission is openly embracing W Social and von der Leyen took time out of her G7 meetings to promote W!

This is not a drill.

I think the EC sees this as a trial run for a possible mandatory social media age verification across the European Union. We must pay attention and resist.

This is an existential threat to the Fediverse as a whole (which doesn't have systems in place to comply with age verification).

RESIST & SPEAK UP

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/_elena/statuses/116771385669745583https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/_elena/statuses/116771385669745583Thu, 18 Jun 2026 13:39:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it. on Thu, 18 Jun 2026 13:37:32 GMT]]>@aral @_elena W Social triggers the "good" old face-to-face artificial compliance via "real-ID" check Anonymity is not a bug to fix but a part of our human evolution For 35 years nicknames have protected the raw "I am" by letting oppressed thoughts & feelings be expressed After 2 generations of digital scars the 3rd generation will be developing immunity Identifying both the trolls & the oppressed victims of societal norms May the 3rd generation be allowed to be itself, not a puppet

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116562427991310522/statuses/116771379759012954https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116562427991310522/statuses/116771379759012954Thu, 18 Jun 2026 13:37:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it. on Thu, 18 Jun 2026 13:31:30 GMT]]>@aral @_elena I am not sure if my trolling will be helpful, but:

I would never even heard about W if not for your statuses here. Just saying...

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://f.cz/users/xChaos/statuses/116771356047089333https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://f.cz/users/xChaos/statuses/116771356047089333Thu, 18 Jun 2026 13:31:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it. on Thu, 18 Jun 2026 13:20:40 GMT]]>@aral @_elena I don't really understand the tone of your comments for this European initiative. I'm surely not saying this is the right answer but if is so far more superior, why weren't there more efforts past two years to make it really sustainable. Relying on goodwilling citizens time, effort and money to keep up instances, is not the answer. By doing so, unfortunately, it's doomed to stay on the side, because you know, none of the people I know are here too. The ís, by the way.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/whasdah/statuses/116771313482229391https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/whasdah/statuses/116771313482229391Thu, 18 Jun 2026 13:20:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it. on Thu, 18 Jun 2026 12:17:48 GMT]]>@GlasWolf @aral @_elena Never forget, never forgive what she is.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://expressional.social/users/disisdeguey/statuses/116771066260127348https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://expressional.social/users/disisdeguey/statuses/116771066260127348Thu, 18 Jun 2026 12:17:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it. on Thu, 18 Jun 2026 12:16:23 GMT]]>@aral @_elena Also anything, ANYTHING, promoted by ziovonderleyer ita a NO, NO,NO.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://expressional.social/users/disisdeguey/statuses/116771060694398589https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://expressional.social/users/disisdeguey/statuses/116771060694398589Thu, 18 Jun 2026 12:16:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it. on Thu, 18 Jun 2026 11:51:09 GMT]]>@aral @_elena My favourite von der Leyen moment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaSqb1ckLt4

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.scot/users/GlasWolf/statuses/116770961464372839https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.scot/users/GlasWolf/statuses/116770961464372839Thu, 18 Jun 2026 11:51:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it. on Thu, 18 Jun 2026 11:46:48 GMT]]>@_elena @Katika even if didn't had a leak I wouldn't do it, in my opinion the more info a person delivers, the bigger risk of a leak. If ID ends up something needed for all networks, it will be when I simply delete them all 🤣

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://masto.pt/users/BerserkEd_PT/statuses/116770944329819040https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://masto.pt/users/BerserkEd_PT/statuses/116770944329819040Thu, 18 Jun 2026 11:46:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it. on Thu, 18 Jun 2026 11:46:00 GMT]]>@aral @_elena

I think there would be reasonable use case for this tool, not for social networking but as replacement for schools and institutions that presently rely on GAFAM services.

Instead of having school communications on Telegram or Whatsapp, having an institutional channel would be much better.

Beside that, the best part of social networking is to stay anonymous and interact with unknown people, not for misbehaving, but rather to speak freely.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.uno/users/cipper/statuses/116770941205597320https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.uno/users/cipper/statuses/116770941205597320Thu, 18 Jun 2026 11:46:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it. on Thu, 18 Jun 2026 11:37:54 GMT]]>@aral @_elena and beside that AT proto is not privacy friendly.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.vivaldi.net/ap/users/116770230216179100/statuses/116770909345194552https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.vivaldi.net/ap/users/116770230216179100/statuses/116770909345194552Thu, 18 Jun 2026 11:37:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it. on Thu, 18 Jun 2026 11:36:06 GMT]]>@BerserkEd_PT they had huge security issues recently (EXIF data being leaked). @Katika wrote about this I think? (I can't find the toot)

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/_elena/statuses/116770902283703913https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/_elena/statuses/116770902283703913Thu, 18 Jun 2026 11:36:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it. on Thu, 18 Jun 2026 11:31:05 GMT]]>@aral @_elena
I took a peak on Wedium (the insta/tiktok euro competitor) because I always like to test stuff instead of just criticizing. I wanted to test a post, first thing I got asked was to identify with webID. Uninstalled it and deleted the email alias I created for it. 😅

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://masto.pt/users/BerserkEd_PT/statuses/116770882519115765https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://masto.pt/users/BerserkEd_PT/statuses/116770882519115765Thu, 18 Jun 2026 11:31:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it. on Thu, 18 Jun 2026 11:00:51 GMT]]>@aral @_elena That's really embarrassing, for any European.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/ap/users/116092650648397225/statuses/116770763639751156https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/ap/users/116092650648397225/statuses/116770763639751156Thu, 18 Jun 2026 11:00:51 GMT