I'm confident they can do this without it having a noticeable impact. It's just garbage text, and it will still be garbage text even if you hide a pattern in it.

But a good thing about the issue of watermarking is perhaps talking about it might make people think about what other kinds of "weights" might apply to LLM generated content.

I have seen liberals and leftists say "Grok is that correct?" and I am baffled how they can be so critical of Mr. Musk but still trust his bot.

I wonder if that will make their already noticeable style more or less recognizable.

I'll take their word for it that the watermark patterns aren't humanly detectable, but the fact that they're deliberately choosing slightly non-optimal words and phrases must have an effect?

The negative take on AI watermarking surprised me. That's all. Watermarks seem responsible?

Up front, I really don't know either.

I have done a good bit more music than animation, and there's certainly nothing in that that couldn't have been done with a garden variety synth/electric piano setup. The only thing really tricky is that the drum and the bass are really tight, which really propels the song. (The lyrics are clever and hilarious and well timed as well but it's the rhythm section that makes it so re-listenable.)

I guess the thing that's so annoying in this instance is that all of it *could* have been done by a dude who was pretty good with basic animation skills, a synth setup, and a friend who had been a bass player in a local scene for a couple decades. But maybe it could have been done by AI?

At this point, I don't want AI watermarks so much as I want composable digital signatures for real work. Like, a signature from the mixer that this feed came in off an analog feed.

Just as you say. I Don't Know.

Yup, that's a legitimate concern. I wouldn't be surprised if they've been doing this for a while anyway to avoid training on their own output, but releasing an API to query gives them a lot of control.

And, of course, you can't detect slop, you can detect slop generated by a specific tool.

Can't share until I know.

And I am going to bet that Anthropic is not going to release those.

In other words, Anthropic will be the only company offering the slop generator, and the service to tell that something got generated by it.

That's real power right there. Would they not "tweak" the results if it was useful for them, say, to create a plagiarism scandal around someone?

- She said she uses ChatGPT for recipes
- She said she spends roughly $300 per month on AI
- She said she enjoys reading some AI generated articles

I'd like a clear humanly visible one as well.

Like requiring every period (full stop) to be replaced by a middle dot ·.

Still easy to read.

But if this really was a benefit to us regular folks, the AI companies would be screaming bloody murder. So they must be getting something out of it. Unless the value of not ingesting their own slop for re-training (and the ensuing model collapse) is worth it all on its own...