<![CDATA[Google has captured a large segment of the education market with Google Classroom and it's the most primitive software I use every single day.]]>Google has captured a large segment of the education market with Google Classroom and it's the most primitive software I use every single day.

On the one hand adding too much stuff annoys edu customers. On the other hand, it just has NO FEATURES, nothing you expect from "classroom" software.

For example, do you want to show an answer key to students after they post their homework?

Gotta do that by hand. Like a cave person.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/29b4e292-b8d9-4048-ac79-7e29fdeb4b58/google-has-captured-a-large-segment-of-the-education-market-with-google-classroom-and-it-s-the-most-primitive-software-i-use-every-single-day.RSS for NodeMon, 21 Sep 2026 04:42:14 GMTThu, 17 Sep 2026 22:11:25 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Google has captured a large segment of the education market with Google Classroom and it's the most primitive software I use every single day. on Sun, 20 Sep 2026 15:44:43 GMT]]>@futurebird @nirak @reclaimhosting I use GC every day, and run my own Moodle instance. Moodle is very powerful, but not as easy to use as GC. Only now getting integration with office functions.

Every teacher, every day, can use GC (we're a GSuite school, with Msft AD locally) I don't not see a way to get my colleagues to use Moodle in the same way.
GC lacks search(!) , and is clunky, yes, but the problem is complex. Moodle has 500+ tables, iirc. It's worth exploring. Big in Germany.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/grant_h/statuses/117304137063875591https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/grant_h/statuses/117304137063875591Sun, 20 Sep 2026 15:44:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Google has captured a large segment of the education market with Google Classroom and it's the most primitive software I use every single day. on Sun, 20 Sep 2026 15:29:02 GMT]]>@futurebird Perhaps they’re only demons if they lose.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/PrinceOfDenmark/statuses/117304075375062895https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/PrinceOfDenmark/statuses/117304075375062895Sun, 20 Sep 2026 15:29:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Google has captured a large segment of the education market with Google Classroom and it's the most primitive software I use every single day. on Sun, 20 Sep 2026 15:28:08 GMT]]>@nirak @reclaimhosting

I have not tried moodle, do you use it?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sauropods.win/users/futurebird/statuses/117304071841751183https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sauropods.win/users/futurebird/statuses/117304071841751183Sun, 20 Sep 2026 15:28:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Google has captured a large segment of the education market with Google Classroom and it's the most primitive software I use every single day. on Sun, 20 Sep 2026 15:14:43 GMT]]>@futurebird @LJ
The thing I always thing about when hearing descriptions like that is Pokemon for the original Gameboy

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.scribblers.club/users/Anke/statuses/117304019123917549https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.scribblers.club/users/Anke/statuses/117304019123917549Sun, 20 Sep 2026 15:14:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Google has captured a large segment of the education market with Google Classroom and it's the most primitive software I use every single day. on Sun, 20 Sep 2026 15:14:41 GMT]]>@neckspike @dlakelan

Think about how much would be lost if your best tracker died. But if you have something like this you could save some of the hard-won expertise for the next generation.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sauropods.win/users/futurebird/statuses/117304018935267702https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sauropods.win/users/futurebird/statuses/117304018935267702Sun, 20 Sep 2026 15:14:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Google has captured a large segment of the education market with Google Classroom and it's the most primitive software I use every single day. on Sun, 20 Sep 2026 15:14:30 GMT]]>@LJ@sunny.garden @futurebird@sauropods.win isn’t PalmOS that software that Lucky Goldstar currently use to spy on everyone through the television?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://toot.pikopublish.ing/notes/ardiu9zmesvx16yghttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://toot.pikopublish.ing/notes/ardiu9zmesvx16ygSun, 20 Sep 2026 15:14:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Google has captured a large segment of the education market with Google Classroom and it's the most primitive software I use every single day. on Sun, 20 Sep 2026 15:13:41 GMT]]>@futurebird @dlakelan I like that idea, makes a lot of sense.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://indiepocalypse.social/users/neckspike/statuses/117304015000720917https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://indiepocalypse.social/users/neckspike/statuses/117304015000720917Sun, 20 Sep 2026 15:13:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Google has captured a large segment of the education market with Google Classroom and it's the most primitive software I use every single day. on Sun, 20 Sep 2026 15:13:21 GMT]]>@dlakelan

There is a bit of "hammer sees nothing but nails" about my thinking here. Since I'm a teacher I tend to think "this would be really great for teaching" probably too often.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sauropods.win/users/futurebird/statuses/117304013748647500https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sauropods.win/users/futurebird/statuses/117304013748647500Sun, 20 Sep 2026 15:13:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Google has captured a large segment of the education market with Google Classroom and it's the most primitive software I use every single day. on Sun, 20 Sep 2026 15:11:13 GMT]]>@dlakelan

Speaking of "old textbooks" I have an unverified notion that these carvings of animal footprints might have served as some kind of textbook or learning aid.

It's just a notion, but considering how accurate the representations are I think it's worth considering if this library of animal footprints was used to train young people about the fauna of their region.

https://futurebird.tumblr.com/post/740768198010535936/is-this-the-first-human-made-textbook

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sauropods.win/users/futurebird/statuses/117304005335319907https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sauropods.win/users/futurebird/statuses/117304005335319907Sun, 20 Sep 2026 15:11:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Google has captured a large segment of the education market with Google Classroom and it's the most primitive software I use every single day. on Sun, 20 Sep 2026 15:01:19 GMT]]>@futurebird For thinking maybe *they* should be in charge?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/PrinceOfDenmark/statuses/117303966420503886https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/PrinceOfDenmark/statuses/117303966420503886Sun, 20 Sep 2026 15:01:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Google has captured a large segment of the education market with Google Classroom and it's the most primitive software I use every single day. on Sun, 20 Sep 2026 14:50:44 GMT]]>@futurebird have you ever tried moodle? I used it a little when I took an instructional design class that used it and then used it to run a course once. It worked pretty well for what I needed, though I didn't use many of the features. Many cpanel hosts (like @reclaimhosting ) offer a one click install

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://carhenge.club/users/nirak/statuses/117303924783507173https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://carhenge.club/users/nirak/statuses/117303924783507173Sun, 20 Sep 2026 14:50:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Google has captured a large segment of the education market with Google Classroom and it's the most primitive software I use every single day. on Sun, 20 Sep 2026 14:44:47 GMT]]>@PrinceOfDenmark

They are so often fallen angles aren't they? But do we forget why they have fallen?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sauropods.win/users/futurebird/statuses/117303901396405809https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sauropods.win/users/futurebird/statuses/117303901396405809Sun, 20 Sep 2026 14:44:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Google has captured a large segment of the education market with Google Classroom and it's the most primitive software I use every single day. on Sun, 20 Sep 2026 14:44:20 GMT]]>@mdhughes
Software is sold to Finance bros and other execs. IT is told what to do and we do it, and then hear from everyone about how shit it all is.

The admin side of Google education/classroom is a mess. Licenses are bought in batches and you'd better have enough student ones to cover all the "free" licenses for the staff.
@futurebird

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/lysdexic/statuses/117303899622772298https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/lysdexic/statuses/117303899622772298Sun, 20 Sep 2026 14:44:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Google has captured a large segment of the education market with Google Classroom and it's the most primitive software I use every single day. on Sun, 20 Sep 2026 14:43:30 GMT]]>@futurebird Don’t do it. You don’t want to end up the admin of your own platform where everything really is your fault. It’s much better to come here and bitch about someone else’s software.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://anarres.family/users/faithisleaping/statuses/117303896314339367https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://anarres.family/users/faithisleaping/statuses/117303896314339367Sun, 20 Sep 2026 14:43:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Google has captured a large segment of the education market with Google Classroom and it's the most primitive software I use every single day. on Sun, 20 Sep 2026 14:43:08 GMT]]>@futurebird I remember when first came out and everyone thought I was a crazyperson because I kept yelling "It's just wiki! I was doing this for my classes last year! Why can't you see this? IT'S A WIKI!"

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/SkylarkDuquesne/statuses/117303894914603802https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/SkylarkDuquesne/statuses/117303894914603802Sun, 20 Sep 2026 14:43:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Google has captured a large segment of the education market with Google Classroom and it's the most primitive software I use every single day. on Sun, 20 Sep 2026 14:42:57 GMT]]>@futurebird @LJ My favourite example of this is the rainbow effects generator for the Spectrum. It literally looks impossible for the hardware to do it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX_Spectrum_graphic_modes#Software_Hi-Colour

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/darkling/statuses/117303894193820373https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/darkling/statuses/117303894193820373Sun, 20 Sep 2026 14:42:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Google has captured a large segment of the education market with Google Classroom and it's the most primitive software I use every single day. on Sun, 20 Sep 2026 14:42:03 GMT]]>@futurebird So, so many applications give me this itch, particularity business-related applications. "This is literally just the front end on a database. How did they screw this up so badly?" And it's not even that I don't understand the process well enough because I've been steeped in it for years. I know what it needs to do, I know the edge cases, etc. Give me a few months and I could do this!

But then I withdraw for a time, and leave Middle-Earth to its fate.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://wandering.shop/users/troublewithwords/statuses/117303890647394998https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://wandering.shop/users/troublewithwords/statuses/117303890647394998Sun, 20 Sep 2026 14:42:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Google has captured a large segment of the education market with Google Classroom and it's the most primitive software I use every single day. on Sun, 20 Sep 2026 14:39:51 GMT]]>@futurebird i ran my entire physical therapy practice on it and a folding keyboard. I created a custom database for my patient data, visit notes, & billing using a palm os relational database program called handbase. It seamlessly integrated with MS Access when i docked my palm pilot with my computer and created all the mail merge documents i needed to run my practice.

This was in the late 1990s and early 2000s.

Nothing since has been as elegant and as useful.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sunny.garden/ap/users/116692660747668852/statuses/117303881971189907https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sunny.garden/ap/users/116692660747668852/statuses/117303881971189907Sun, 20 Sep 2026 14:39:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Google has captured a large segment of the education market with Google Classroom and it's the most primitive software I use every single day. on Sun, 20 Sep 2026 14:37:00 GMT]]>@LJ

A more extreme example of "pushing the hardware" is some of the programming for N64 games of all things.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sauropods.win/users/futurebird/statuses/117303870753098831https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sauropods.win/users/futurebird/statuses/117303870753098831Sun, 20 Sep 2026 14:37:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Google has captured a large segment of the education market with Google Classroom and it's the most primitive software I use every single day. on Sun, 20 Sep 2026 14:34:06 GMT]]>@futurebird Squint a little, and that “demon” starts looking like your better angel instead…

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/PrinceOfDenmark/statuses/117303859393014247https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/PrinceOfDenmark/statuses/117303859393014247Sun, 20 Sep 2026 14:34:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Google has captured a large segment of the education market with Google Classroom and it's the most primitive software I use every single day. on Sun, 20 Sep 2026 14:30:50 GMT]]>@LJ

So much of it was made by people doing their very best, pushing the hardware to the limit. It was really elegant in many ways.

It occurs to me that we have never or maybe only rarely seen what it'd mean for modern hardware to be "pushed to its limits" like that.

Think of what might be possible.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sauropods.win/users/futurebird/statuses/117303846513258722https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sauropods.win/users/futurebird/statuses/117303846513258722Sun, 20 Sep 2026 14:30:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Google has captured a large segment of the education market with Google Classroom and it's the most primitive software I use every single day. on Sun, 20 Sep 2026 14:29:54 GMT]]>*panting holing on to the arms of the chair*

"I could make a better LMS than this! It's just a database pointing to a file storage system with a calendar! I could do it!"

I wait for the feeling to pass, but it has been happening more frequently. In the corner of the room a little demon whispers "do it, do it on apache and use PHP and mySQL, you know the way"

I shake my head holding back the tears. I do not practice those dark arts any longer...

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sauropods.win/users/futurebird/statuses/117303842882763532https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sauropods.win/users/futurebird/statuses/117303842882763532Sun, 20 Sep 2026 14:29:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Google has captured a large segment of the education market with Google Classroom and it's the most primitive software I use every single day. on Sun, 20 Sep 2026 14:25:06 GMT]]>@futurebird i so miss palm os. Sigh.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sunny.garden/ap/users/116692660747668852/statuses/117303823963081365https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sunny.garden/ap/users/116692660747668852/statuses/117303823963081365Sun, 20 Sep 2026 14:25:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Google has captured a large segment of the education market with Google Classroom and it's the most primitive software I use every single day. on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 18:01:06 GMT]]>@futurebird my first tech job was back in 1998 working on education software where the frontend was in the little known macromedia director, i was an idiot 18 year old who had no idea what she was doing, and we still did a better job than this. honestly the state of tech has been in a downward spiral since the 2000s, and it's appalling what we all put up with because some billionaire forced it on us.

anyway, commiseration that you have to deal with this slop.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://kitty.town/users/tessaracht/statuses/117293348690632633https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://kitty.town/users/tessaracht/statuses/117293348690632633Fri, 18 Sep 2026 18:01:06 GMT