<![CDATA[Authenticity Problem]]>Authenticity Problem

Bonus timelapse: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/064.html#bonus

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/2b53524a-45a0-454f-b28d-b32cb193ed4c/authenticity-problemRSS for NodeSat, 08 Aug 2026 10:56:14 GMTWed, 05 Aug 2026 16:01:12 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Authenticity Problem on Wed, 05 Aug 2026 22:12:19 GMT]]>@leberschnitzel I am also very happy when the Avian Intelligence parrot appears. 😆 (I saved it for you!)

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fandom.ink/users/ToonLink/statuses/117045194863344034https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fandom.ink/users/ToonLink/statuses/117045194863344034Wed, 05 Aug 2026 22:12:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Authenticity Problem on Wed, 05 Aug 2026 22:05:56 GMT]]>@tanavit Oh, bless! Yeah, there's a thing about AI output having a yellowish tinge, to the point that people point to it as a "tell" for AI output. There's even a joke about it being "piss-tinged" or sommat.

I think this is becoming less of a thing, or else I'm just not seeing it as much (but truth be told I don't lurk in places where AI is around a lot, like Meta/Twitter). But old memes die hard.

ETA: Fun fact, this is why Avian Intelligence's text boxes are yellowish! 😆

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fandom.ink/users/ToonLink/statuses/117045169811130914https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fandom.ink/users/ToonLink/statuses/117045169811130914Wed, 05 Aug 2026 22:05:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Authenticity Problem on Wed, 05 Aug 2026 22:00:34 GMT]]>@davidrevoy I feel your pain now.😭

Literally, they train AI on *your* art and then they have the nerve to claim your art is not authentic.

Of course, AI companies would never want to add source fingerprints to their data because that would prove they're infringing on other people's copyrights.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://masto.hackers.town/users/yuki2501/statuses/117045148673019963https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://masto.hackers.town/users/yuki2501/statuses/117045148673019963Wed, 05 Aug 2026 22:00:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Authenticity Problem on Wed, 05 Aug 2026 21:57:44 GMT]]>@AnnaBaguenaude @realtegan @davidrevoy
Personally I'd prefer screwdrivers. Then we could redistribute all that RAM and those video cards and get decent prices again, maybe even cheap ones with them being used and flooding the market.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://autistics.life/users/murdoc/statuses/117045137522382639https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://autistics.life/users/murdoc/statuses/117045137522382639Wed, 05 Aug 2026 21:57:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Authenticity Problem on Wed, 05 Aug 2026 21:51:27 GMT]]>@sinewave @mirabilos @kagan @davidrevoy
Exactly. It's why civilized societies have "innocent until proven guilty", because we've decided that it's a lesser evil to let some criminals go unpunished than to punish innocent people.

And its misdirected energy anyway. Instead of fighting each other, we should be coming together and directing our combined efforts towards the real source of the problem, the companies and governments that are proliferating and pushing this technology so much. That's where the real harm is coming from, and where it needs to be stopped. But that's not going to happen until enough of us can get together on this. Fighting each other detracts from that.

There's damn good reason to be angry, let's direct that energy to where it will do the most good.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://autistics.life/users/murdoc/statuses/117045112847586578https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://autistics.life/users/murdoc/statuses/117045112847586578Wed, 05 Aug 2026 21:51:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Authenticity Problem on Wed, 05 Aug 2026 21:44:42 GMT]]>@davidrevoy Thank you, you're "artwork" finally convinced me that there is no hope for bundles of "happiness" like you. I would encourage you to start finding yourself amongus the land marks of Everest, such as green boots. You AI sloop creature.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/117045045637477379/statuses/117045086296186249https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/117045045637477379/statuses/117045086296186249Wed, 05 Aug 2026 21:44:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Authenticity Problem on Wed, 05 Aug 2026 21:43:17 GMT]]>@kagan @mirabilos @davidrevoy on that note i did look up how to do the curly quotes btw, they're apparently shift+altgr+2 and 5 on nordic boards

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.dragoncave.dev/users/sinewave/statuses/117045080719888751https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.dragoncave.dev/users/sinewave/statuses/117045080719888751Wed, 05 Aug 2026 21:43:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Authenticity Problem on Wed, 05 Aug 2026 21:37:42 GMT]]>@FogRyu Oui, de Montauban 🙂 Et oui, j'ai un passé un peu chargé avec la Blender Fondation ; avec quelques participations à leurs court métrage, et j'ai bien suivi les 15 dernières années de Krita, d'assez prêt. Merci de découvrir mon travail.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://framapiaf.org/users/davidrevoy/statuses/117045058760498941https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://framapiaf.org/users/davidrevoy/statuses/117045058760498941Wed, 05 Aug 2026 21:37:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Authenticity Problem on Wed, 05 Aug 2026 21:36:58 GMT]]>@lispi314
Thanks for the feedback. If you know of any good literature or research on LLM psychosis, I'd like to take a look. The Techne program is designed to improve through feedback and contributions like that.

@davidrevoy

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://autistics.life/users/murdoc/statuses/117045055887423730https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://autistics.life/users/murdoc/statuses/117045055887423730Wed, 05 Aug 2026 21:36:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Authenticity Problem on Wed, 05 Aug 2026 21:30:14 GMT]]>@davidrevoy

On the contrary. Thanks to you! It made me wonder how many images I’ve quickly closed just because they were “AI,” when they actually weren’t...

And on top of that, it seems you’re a FOSS advocate and a Krita user (and maybe Blender, if I understand correctly).

So clearly, I would have missed out on an opportunity, especially since I’m trying again to get into Krita, among other foss.

Et aparemment vous êtes français en plus. Haha.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/FogRyu/statuses/117045029419421428https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/FogRyu/statuses/117045029419421428Wed, 05 Aug 2026 21:30:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Authenticity Problem on Wed, 05 Aug 2026 21:23:56 GMT]]>@FogRyu Hey, thank you for the feedback, and for doing the extra effort of double checking

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://framapiaf.org/users/davidrevoy/statuses/117045004633052201https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://framapiaf.org/users/davidrevoy/statuses/117045004633052201Wed, 05 Aug 2026 21:23:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Authenticity Problem on Wed, 05 Aug 2026 21:22:04 GMT]]>@davidrevoy

Oh damn! I owe you a sincere apology.

I'm used to avoid AI slop, and my reaction to the image 1 was “AI gen”. I even closed the image, and then saw the title “Authenticity Problem,” it made me doubt myself. I reopened the image, read the comic, and then watched the timelapse, which confirmed that it was indeed your work and not AI.

And now I can’t even imagine what it must be like for you. Hang in there, and great work despite everything!

And again, sorry! Apparently, I'm biased

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/FogRyu/statuses/117044997304714917https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/FogRyu/statuses/117044997304714917Wed, 05 Aug 2026 21:22:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Authenticity Problem on Wed, 05 Aug 2026 21:18:38 GMT]]>@mirabilos @davidrevoy I've got to go meet up with some out-of-town friends and haven't got time for this. I'm sorry you think I'm suspect and hypocritical. But @sinewave, thank you for pointing out ways is which it can be easier to do em dashes than all the different variations on curly quotes (single and double, left and right).

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://wandering.shop/users/kagan/statuses/117044983759753151https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://wandering.shop/users/kagan/statuses/117044983759753151Wed, 05 Aug 2026 21:18:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Authenticity Problem on Wed, 05 Aug 2026 21:10:01 GMT]]>@davidrevoy This is one of the things about AI generated art that many people don't think about... it's that *psychologically* speaking, regardless of whether we use AI or not, we're all now in a state of constantly questioning whether something is authentic or not.

This is an incredibly erosive precedent to be set for human culture. We live in truly dangerous times.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.subj.am/ap/users/115962734261547696/statuses/117044949912955761https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.subj.am/ap/users/115962734261547696/statuses/117044949912955761Wed, 05 Aug 2026 21:10:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Authenticity Problem on Wed, 05 Aug 2026 21:09:37 GMT]]>@mirabilos Nawww, mate. I learned about the ctrl+shift+alt+U trick that lets me insert nice pretty em-dashes into a text, so I don't have to look amateur with double-dashes, but I ain't gonna do that for every punctuation mark. I'm not that anal. 🤣

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fandom.ink/users/ToonLink/statuses/117044948333275933https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fandom.ink/users/ToonLink/statuses/117044948333275933Wed, 05 Aug 2026 21:09:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Authenticity Problem on Wed, 05 Aug 2026 21:03:15 GMT]]>@davidrevoy it just hurts seeing this happen all the time

can't wait for the world to get better again

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastoart.social/ap/users/116675886466491906/statuses/117044923284679158https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastoart.social/ap/users/116675886466491906/statuses/117044923284679158Wed, 05 Aug 2026 21:03:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Authenticity Problem on Wed, 05 Aug 2026 20:59:54 GMT]]>@miawinter Oh no. Sorry! 🫂

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://framapiaf.org/users/davidrevoy/statuses/117044910148182345https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://framapiaf.org/users/davidrevoy/statuses/117044910148182345Wed, 05 Aug 2026 20:59:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Authenticity Problem on Wed, 05 Aug 2026 20:54:47 GMT]]>@davidrevoy I faced this while doing a research paper for publishing, there were many parts that I wrote them myself, but it's was flagged as AI percentage. No matter what I change those paragraphs, it still gives me that an AI wrote it. I eventually inserted some typing mistakes intentionally to escape this loop.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://lgbtqia.space/ap/users/116540200892096213/statuses/117044890010472884https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://lgbtqia.space/ap/users/116540200892096213/statuses/117044890010472884Wed, 05 Aug 2026 20:54:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Authenticity Problem on Wed, 05 Aug 2026 20:48:31 GMT]]>@davidrevoy that reminds me of a story you told us recently… 🤔

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://pouet.chapril.org/users/jenesuispasgoth/statuses/117044865380993121https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://pouet.chapril.org/users/jenesuispasgoth/statuses/117044865380993121Wed, 05 Aug 2026 20:48:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Authenticity Problem on Wed, 05 Aug 2026 20:42:50 GMT]]>@davidrevoy
Bonjour David,
Merci pour ce que tu partages, cela illumine mes journées 👍

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.pirateparty.be/users/mf/statuses/117044843012843578https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.pirateparty.be/users/mf/statuses/117044843012843578Wed, 05 Aug 2026 20:42:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Authenticity Problem on Wed, 05 Aug 2026 20:42:09 GMT]]>@davidrevoy

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.pirateparty.be/users/mf/statuses/117044840329432523https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.pirateparty.be/users/mf/statuses/117044840329432523Wed, 05 Aug 2026 20:42:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Authenticity Problem on Wed, 05 Aug 2026 20:28:31 GMT]]>@uriel @davidrevoy Beep boop.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://coxenheim.social/users/nate/statuses/01KZ9ST1HPPQEQKV6VK0SDFA06https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://coxenheim.social/users/nate/statuses/01KZ9ST1HPPQEQKV6VK0SDFA06Wed, 05 Aug 2026 20:28:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Authenticity Problem on Wed, 05 Aug 2026 20:17:54 GMT]]>@mirabilos @kagan @davidrevoy this nitpicking is besides the point anyway, the point is that there are no actually accurate metrics, and you do more harm than good by trying to witch-hunt the slopsters

they won't care; the people you catch in the crossfire will

and it's better to let a few slopsters exist than it is to harass artists and authors off the internet by accusing them of AI use

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.dragoncave.dev/users/sinewave/statuses/117044744973825826https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.dragoncave.dev/users/sinewave/statuses/117044744973825826Wed, 05 Aug 2026 20:17:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Authenticity Problem on Wed, 05 Aug 2026 20:15:08 GMT]]>@kagan @davidrevoy @sinewave em dash is Ctrl-P+u+2+0+1+4 or Compose+-+-+space, typographic quotation marks can be vastly easier (e.g. L3-F8)

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://toot.mirbsd.org/users/mirabilos/statuses/01KZ9S1H9HNZNKASPE7R60H60Bhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://toot.mirbsd.org/users/mirabilos/statuses/01KZ9S1H9HNZNKASPE7R60H60BWed, 05 Aug 2026 20:15:08 GMT