<![CDATA[remember when TNG established that warp travel is causing space climate change and then the writers proceeded to never mention it again except to say that they're ignoring it?]]>remember when TNG established that warp travel is causing space climate change and then the writers proceeded to never mention it again except to say that they're ignoring it?

it's so funny how it accidentally recreated the liberal response to climate change

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/2bfb3827-f566-4504-928f-3efa7a59e5d8/remember-when-tng-established-that-warp-travel-is-causing-space-climate-change-and-then-the-writers-proceeded-to-never-mention-it-again-except-to-say-that-they-re-ignoring-itRSS for NodeMon, 05 Oct 2026 00:19:07 GMTFri, 25 Sep 2026 06:13:34 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to remember when TNG established that warp travel is causing space climate change and then the writers proceeded to never mention it again except to say that they're ignoring it? on Fri, 25 Sep 2026 19:12:00 GMT]]>@Unlikelylass @coriander

yeah the warp 5 speed limit episode is the one I'm discussing in the OP

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tenforward.social/users/SeanAloysiusOBrien/statuses/117333263693383212https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tenforward.social/users/SeanAloysiusOBrien/statuses/117333263693383212Fri, 25 Sep 2026 19:12:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to remember when TNG established that warp travel is causing space climate change and then the writers proceeded to never mention it again except to say that they're ignoring it? on Fri, 25 Sep 2026 19:10:29 GMT]]>@Taweret @SeanAloysiusOBrien Personally I would have loved to see the story of people coming up with a solution that actually works well

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://techhub.social/users/diazona/statuses/117333257722637295https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://techhub.social/users/diazona/statuses/117333257722637295Fri, 25 Sep 2026 19:10:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to remember when TNG established that warp travel is causing space climate change and then the writers proceeded to never mention it again except to say that they're ignoring it? on Fri, 25 Sep 2026 19:07:38 GMT]]>@SeanAloysiusOBrien @coriander I'm in a similar boat -- I think I'm conflating the plots of ST: Insurrection and the episode with the Warp 5 speed limit:

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Force_of_Nature_(episode)

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mspsocial.net/users/Unlikelylass/statuses/117333246484831081https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mspsocial.net/users/Unlikelylass/statuses/117333246484831081Fri, 25 Sep 2026 19:07:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to remember when TNG established that warp travel is causing space climate change and then the writers proceeded to never mention it again except to say that they're ignoring it? on Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:56:08 GMT]]>@Unlikelylass @coriander

I don't recall the TNG movies that clearly but I feel like I would remember if they said that explicitly, idk

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tenforward.social/users/SeanAloysiusOBrien/statuses/117333201313863832https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tenforward.social/users/SeanAloysiusOBrien/statuses/117333201313863832Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:56:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to remember when TNG established that warp travel is causing space climate change and then the writers proceeded to never mention it again except to say that they're ignoring it? on Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:53:20 GMT]]>@SeanAloysiusOBrien @coriander One of the TNG movies has a region of space deeply damage by warp travel, doesn't it?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mspsocial.net/users/Unlikelylass/statuses/117333190261587087https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mspsocial.net/users/Unlikelylass/statuses/117333190261587087Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:53:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to remember when TNG established that warp travel is causing space climate change and then the writers proceeded to never mention it again except to say that they're ignoring it? on Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:40:23 GMT]]>@SeanAloysiusOBrien @coriander
I thought the Burn was the big disaster that resulted from ignoring it and then it turned out to be caused by some space baby.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://chattrbx.com/ap/users/116014621034215238/statuses/117333139368459291https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://chattrbx.com/ap/users/116014621034215238/statuses/117333139368459291Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:40:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to remember when TNG established that warp travel is causing space climate change and then the writers proceeded to never mention it again except to say that they're ignoring it? on Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:35:33 GMT]]>@SeanAloysiusOBrien @coriander

Pfft! Not Voyager's problem! They're just passing through! So long, suckers!

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://timeloop.cafe/users/apLundell/statuses/117333120353925376https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://timeloop.cafe/users/apLundell/statuses/117333120353925376Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:35:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to remember when TNG established that warp travel is causing space climate change and then the writers proceeded to never mention it again except to say that they're ignoring it? on Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:32:35 GMT]]>@apLundell @coriander

or Voyager

i get different people running a different show not wanting to carry your baggage, but Voyager was mostly the same people who were left at TNG by s7

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tenforward.social/users/SeanAloysiusOBrien/statuses/117333108659673959https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tenforward.social/users/SeanAloysiusOBrien/statuses/117333108659673959Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:32:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to remember when TNG established that warp travel is causing space climate change and then the writers proceeded to never mention it again except to say that they're ignoring it? on Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:26:23 GMT]]>@coriander @SeanAloysiusOBrien

They were very close to the end of the series, so it would have DS9's responsibility to carry that particular torch.

I wonder if the writing teams talked about it before they made the episode.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://timeloop.cafe/users/apLundell/statuses/117333084318337096https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://timeloop.cafe/users/apLundell/statuses/117333084318337096Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:26:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to remember when TNG established that warp travel is causing space climate change and then the writers proceeded to never mention it again except to say that they're ignoring it? on Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:26:15 GMT]]>@coriander @SeanAloysiusOBrien

I doubt it was an attempt to raise the stakes. The strength of the format was that the episodes were all one-offs. They knew that.

It wouldn't really raise the stakes anyway. It would just make some numbers smaller.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://timeloop.cafe/users/apLundell/statuses/117333083754839840https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://timeloop.cafe/users/apLundell/statuses/117333083754839840Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:26:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to remember when TNG established that warp travel is causing space climate change and then the writers proceeded to never mention it again except to say that they're ignoring it? on Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:17:36 GMT]]>@paladin @Taweret

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tenforward.social/users/SeanAloysiusOBrien/statuses/117333049793264148https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tenforward.social/users/SeanAloysiusOBrien/statuses/117333049793264148Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:17:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to remember when TNG established that warp travel is causing space climate change and then the writers proceeded to never mention it again except to say that they're ignoring it? on Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:16:38 GMT]]>@paladin @Taweret

nope! that's an accompanying lorebook invention never mentioned in the show

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tenforward.social/users/SeanAloysiusOBrien/statuses/117333045961968506https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tenforward.social/users/SeanAloysiusOBrien/statuses/117333045961968506Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:16:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to remember when TNG established that warp travel is causing space climate change and then the writers proceeded to never mention it again except to say that they're ignoring it? on Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:15:22 GMT]]>@SeanAloysiusOBrien stories about everyone trying to come up with a warp alternative and maybe using unscruplous methods or maybe someone does come up with something and its even more dangerous

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://timeloop.cafe/users/Taweret/statuses/117333041019318677https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://timeloop.cafe/users/Taweret/statuses/117333041019318677Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:15:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to remember when TNG established that warp travel is causing space climate change and then the writers proceeded to never mention it again except to say that they're ignoring it? on Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:15:01 GMT]]>@SeanAloysiusOBrien Sounds like a way to try and raise stakes and get people interested again that didn't work so they just dropped it

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://elekk.xyz/users/coriander/statuses/117333039616373623https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://elekk.xyz/users/coriander/statuses/117333039616373623Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:15:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to remember when TNG established that warp travel is causing space climate change and then the writers proceeded to never mention it again except to say that they're ignoring it? on Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:14:58 GMT]]>@SeanAloysiusOBrien @Taweret wasn't there a line in early VOY where they explain that's why it does the goofy thing with its nacelles?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tenforward.social/users/paladin/statuses/117333039406069626https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tenforward.social/users/paladin/statuses/117333039406069626Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:14:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to remember when TNG established that warp travel is causing space climate change and then the writers proceeded to never mention it again except to say that they're ignoring it? on Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:14:08 GMT]]>@coriander

most people forget about it because it was in s7 (a generally underwhelming season) and an underwhelming episode generally

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tenforward.social/users/SeanAloysiusOBrien/statuses/117333036147066799https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tenforward.social/users/SeanAloysiusOBrien/statuses/117333036147066799Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:14:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to remember when TNG established that warp travel is causing space climate change and then the writers proceeded to never mention it again except to say that they're ignoring it? on Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:13:36 GMT]]>@Taweret

there could have been so many stories borne from this concept!

the federation is shown to be at a disadvantage to their adversaries for following the speed limit

evil admiral wants to abolish the speed limit and causes space disasters

Romulans have a space disaster in their territory becuase they ignore the speed limit and the federation moves in to help

so many possibilities

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tenforward.social/users/SeanAloysiusOBrien/statuses/117333034057105206https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tenforward.social/users/SeanAloysiusOBrien/statuses/117333034057105206Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:13:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to remember when TNG established that warp travel is causing space climate change and then the writers proceeded to never mention it again except to say that they're ignoring it? on Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:08:12 GMT]]>@SeanAloysiusOBrien Incredible storytelling there

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://elekk.xyz/users/coriander/statuses/117333012799489927https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://elekk.xyz/users/coriander/statuses/117333012799489927Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:08:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to remember when TNG established that warp travel is causing space climate change and then the writers proceeded to never mention it again except to say that they're ignoring it? on Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:07:36 GMT]]>@coriander

yeah, they establish that warp travel has cumulative deleterious effects on space and can cause space disasters and at the end of the episode they're all like "wow nothing will ever be the same, we're instituting a warp speed limit of warp 5"

and then only mention it a couple times after that episode and even then only to explain "well this is an emergency so obviously we're ignoring the speed limit"

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tenforward.social/users/SeanAloysiusOBrien/statuses/117333010475799910https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tenforward.social/users/SeanAloysiusOBrien/statuses/117333010475799910Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:07:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to remember when TNG established that warp travel is causing space climate change and then the writers proceeded to never mention it again except to say that they're ignoring it? on Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:07:28 GMT]]>@SeanAloysiusOBrien they were still so reluctant to have real continuity. ds9 was the only one to be like no, audiences can actually remember things

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://timeloop.cafe/users/Taweret/statuses/117333009905097799https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://timeloop.cafe/users/Taweret/statuses/117333009905097799Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:07:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to remember when TNG established that warp travel is causing space climate change and then the writers proceeded to never mention it again except to say that they're ignoring it? on Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:05:54 GMT]]>@Taweret

yeah like nobody forced them to write that story, but they did it and then didn't even bother to take advantage of it

in real life problems are a bad thing but for storytelling problems are what gives life to a story

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tenforward.social/users/SeanAloysiusOBrien/statuses/117333003786570923https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tenforward.social/users/SeanAloysiusOBrien/statuses/117333003786570923Fri, 25 Sep 2026 18:05:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to remember when TNG established that warp travel is causing space climate change and then the writers proceeded to never mention it again except to say that they're ignoring it? on Fri, 25 Sep 2026 17:58:58 GMT]]>@SeanAloysiusOBrien wait what

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://elekk.xyz/users/coriander/statuses/117332976500035353https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://elekk.xyz/users/coriander/statuses/117332976500035353Fri, 25 Sep 2026 17:58:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to remember when TNG established that warp travel is causing space climate change and then the writers proceeded to never mention it again except to say that they're ignoring it? on Fri, 25 Sep 2026 17:58:04 GMT]]>@SeanAloysiusOBrien they could've done interesting things with that and then they just didn't

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://timeloop.cafe/users/Taweret/statuses/117332972929540245https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://timeloop.cafe/users/Taweret/statuses/117332972929540245Fri, 25 Sep 2026 17:58:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to remember when TNG established that warp travel is causing space climate change and then the writers proceeded to never mention it again except to say that they're ignoring it? on Fri, 25 Sep 2026 17:03:06 GMT]]>@Taweret

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