<![CDATA[Only just now realising that the wish fulfilment of having a dedicated slave or polite servant might play a bigger role in the popularity of chatbots than I expected]]>Only just now realising that the wish fulfilment of having a dedicated slave or polite servant might play a bigger role in the popularity of chatbots than I expected

I can be slow sometimes, but I also always thought the constant signals of servility these systems are made to exude were obviously distasteful, even when experienced second-hand through other people's reports

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/2e3557a6-b2ee-4534-8ee7-535a8f71fb39/only-just-now-realising-that-the-wish-fulfilment-of-having-a-dedicated-slave-or-polite-servant-might-play-a-bigger-role-in-the-popularity-of-chatbots-than-i-expectedRSS for NodeSat, 04 Jul 2026 19:45:36 GMTSat, 04 Jul 2026 09:20:52 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Only just now realising that the wish fulfilment of having a dedicated slave or polite servant might play a bigger role in the popularity of chatbots than I expected on Sat, 04 Jul 2026 11:05:31 GMT]]>@baldur Yeah, been thinking that for a while - I often accompany my thoughts about it with a certain Star Trek clip involving the woman who played the lead character in "The Color Purple"...

https://helvede.net/@jwcph/115708802298404647

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://helvede.net/users/jwcph/statuses/116861378954699988https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://helvede.net/users/jwcph/statuses/116861378954699988Sat, 04 Jul 2026 11:05:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Only just now realising that the wish fulfilment of having a dedicated slave or polite servant might play a bigger role in the popularity of chatbots than I expected on Sat, 04 Jul 2026 10:50:33 GMT]]>@baldur i saw a dude at work asking an agent (who has a female name) "make me a sandwich please". Incredibly distasteful, and I called them out for that. And my reply was ignored by everyone in the chat.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.ml/users/dravyptak/statuses/116861320129377126https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.ml/users/dravyptak/statuses/116861320129377126Sat, 04 Jul 2026 10:50:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Only just now realising that the wish fulfilment of having a dedicated slave or polite servant might play a bigger role in the popularity of chatbots than I expected on Sat, 04 Jul 2026 10:36:52 GMT]]>@baldur
You mean you’re not looking forward to a time when a servant bot stands at attention in your room as you sleep all night, waiting for you to suddenly wake up and demand a glass of water or a sandwich? 🤔

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://dusty.ninja/users/bryan/statuses/01KWPB7PEHQ2ZSY831HS3F8RF4https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://dusty.ninja/users/bryan/statuses/01KWPB7PEHQ2ZSY831HS3F8RF4Sat, 04 Jul 2026 10:36:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Only just now realising that the wish fulfilment of having a dedicated slave or polite servant might play a bigger role in the popularity of chatbots than I expected on Sat, 04 Jul 2026 10:33:12 GMT]]>@koen_hufkens @baldur Reminds me of this blog comparing the language of AI adoption to the language of rape.

https://buttondown.com/monteiro/archive/how-to-use-no-as-a-complete-sentence/

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mendeddrum.org/users/patrick/statuses/116861251889604462https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mendeddrum.org/users/patrick/statuses/116861251889604462Sat, 04 Jul 2026 10:33:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Only just now realising that the wish fulfilment of having a dedicated slave or polite servant might play a bigger role in the popularity of chatbots than I expected on Sat, 04 Jul 2026 10:30:31 GMT]]>@baldur@toot.cafe think you would find this interesting reading! https://aeoncollective.substack.com/p/ai-is-a-slavery-fetish

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hol.ogra.ph/notes/ao9scn0nf10i04grhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hol.ogra.ph/notes/ao9scn0nf10i04grSat, 04 Jul 2026 10:30:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Only just now realising that the wish fulfilment of having a dedicated slave or polite servant might play a bigger role in the popularity of chatbots than I expected on Sat, 04 Jul 2026 10:16:32 GMT]]>@baldur yes — see work on Pygmalion displacement by Erscoi, Kleinherenbrink and @olivia Guest https://philpapers.org/archive/ERSPDW.pdf

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://scholar.social/users/dingemansemark/statuses/116861186365708384https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://scholar.social/users/dingemansemark/statuses/116861186365708384Sat, 04 Jul 2026 10:16:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Only just now realising that the wish fulfilment of having a dedicated slave or polite servant might play a bigger role in the popularity of chatbots than I expected on Sat, 04 Jul 2026 10:10:18 GMT]]>@baldur So, if your boss wasn't already a narcissistic shitbag - AI made those chances go up. Another reason we're circling the drain.

*end rant*

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/koen_hufkens/statuses/116861161875270196https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/koen_hufkens/statuses/116861161875270196Sat, 04 Jul 2026 10:10:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Only just now realising that the wish fulfilment of having a dedicated slave or polite servant might play a bigger role in the popularity of chatbots than I expected on Sat, 04 Jul 2026 10:08:16 GMT]]>@baldur A side product of all this is that people who are the most toxic in companies get a leg up. The micro-managing manipulative bastard will be "good at AI". The holistic manager with a long term vision systems thinking approach probably can't be bothered - as the context window for the models still isn't large enough for this.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/koen_hufkens/statuses/116861153854186141https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/koen_hufkens/statuses/116861153854186141Sat, 04 Jul 2026 10:08:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Only just now realising that the wish fulfilment of having a dedicated slave or polite servant might play a bigger role in the popularity of chatbots than I expected on Sat, 04 Jul 2026 09:59:49 GMT]]>@baldur The fact that you have to coerce these tools doesn't reflect well on them either. This sort of manipulative language is super uncomfortable and might be one reason women don't like these tools.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/koen_hufkens/statuses/116861120622712780https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/koen_hufkens/statuses/116861120622712780Sat, 04 Jul 2026 09:59:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Only just now realising that the wish fulfilment of having a dedicated slave or polite servant might play a bigger role in the popularity of chatbots than I expected on Sat, 04 Jul 2026 09:56:45 GMT]]>@baldur Yeah, everyone wants to be someone's manager it seems (even if it is in silico). There is a strong link to toxic masculinity here (for the boosters), which has been argued is rooted in shame of failing to reach certain expectations (mostly in perceived status - as in how many people you get to boss around).

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/koen_hufkens/statuses/116861108556579902https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/koen_hufkens/statuses/116861108556579902Sat, 04 Jul 2026 09:56:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Only just now realising that the wish fulfilment of having a dedicated slave or polite servant might play a bigger role in the popularity of chatbots than I expected on Sat, 04 Jul 2026 09:38:17 GMT]]>@SaveTheOkapi That wouldn’t surprise me.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://toot.cafe/users/baldur/statuses/116861035993759327https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://toot.cafe/users/baldur/statuses/116861035993759327Sat, 04 Jul 2026 09:38:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Only just now realising that the wish fulfilment of having a dedicated slave or polite servant might play a bigger role in the popularity of chatbots than I expected on Sat, 04 Jul 2026 09:31:06 GMT]]>@baldur it's weird isn't it? I imagine there's some correlation between liking chatbots and having a social hierarchy mindset

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/SaveTheOkapi/statuses/116861007713521090https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/SaveTheOkapi/statuses/116861007713521090Sat, 04 Jul 2026 09:31:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Only just now realising that the wish fulfilment of having a dedicated slave or polite servant might play a bigger role in the popularity of chatbots than I expected on Sat, 04 Jul 2026 09:21:32 GMT]]>Like, every time I read somebody arguing we shouldn't judge people for using chatbots as it's the first time they've had somebody at their constant beck and call I think, no, that actually makes me think less of them

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://toot.cafe/users/baldur/statuses/116860970126288083https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://toot.cafe/users/baldur/statuses/116860970126288083Sat, 04 Jul 2026 09:21:32 GMT