<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[New Blog: What Would A Serious AI Product Look Like?]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>New Blog: What Would A Serious AI Product Look Like?</p><p>Every “AI” tool is missing critical features that you would need if you wanted to do real work with them. What would those look like, if they existed?</p><p><a href="https://blog.glyph.im/2026/09/serious-ai-product.html" rel="nofollow noopener"><span>https://</span><span>blog.glyph.im/2026/09/serious-</span><span>ai-product.html</span></a></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/30a06aca-4f1d-403a-8bd2-8d26ba0951fe/new-blog-what-would-a-serious-ai-product-look-like</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2026 02:50:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/30a06aca-4f1d-403a-8bd2-8d26ba0951fe.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 04:39:36 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to New Blog: What Would A Serious AI Product Look Like? on Mon, 28 Sep 2026 14:56:50 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/jdp23%40neuromatch.social" rel="nofollow noopener">@<span>jdp23</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/glyph%40mastodon.social" rel="nofollow noopener">@<span>glyph</span></a></span> I think we should also point out that adults who know better but want to keep their jobs are forced into being treated like this too</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/Epic_Null/statuses/117349247278923821</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/Epic_Null/statuses/117349247278923821</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[epic_null@infosec.exchange]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 14:56:50 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to New Blog: What Would A Serious AI Product Look Like? on Mon, 28 Sep 2026 14:28:15 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/glyph%40mastodon.social">@<span>glyph</span></a></span> excellent post. I love how your description of how results should be presented for research is almost exactly what Google search looked like 10 years ago: a list of links with relevant excerpts, no faulty "summaries".</p><p>One problem that persists in this use case is bias, but regular old search had the same problem (it didn't have other problems like energy use to the same degree).</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://kolektiva.social/users/tiotasram/statuses/117349134867197149</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://kolektiva.social/users/tiotasram/statuses/117349134867197149</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[tiotasram@kolektiva.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 14:28:15 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to New Blog: What Would A Serious AI Product Look Like? on Mon, 28 Sep 2026 14:20:15 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="https://precise.space/@anne">@<span>anne</span></a></span> I did not so much mean that this is the best way to do it, as I meant that doing SOMETHING like this would indicate a level of seriousness about the problem. There are plenty of other mental health supports they could attempt instead. But instead of that, we have … nothing. I have yet to hear of a single org offering specific mental health resources along with an AI mandate.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/glyph/statuses/117349103396399322</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/glyph/statuses/117349103396399322</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[glyph@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 14:20:15 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to New Blog: What Would A Serious AI Product Look Like? on Mon, 28 Sep 2026 14:08:39 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/jdp23%40neuromatch.social">@<span>jdp23</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/glyph%40mastodon.social">@<span>glyph</span></a></span> first step would be a law to forbid giving them human names. I'm so bothered every time I hear "claude told me" "did you have a look at the analysis made by claude"</p><p>Fuck that shit, man.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://chaos.social/users/f4grx/statuses/117349057818901792</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://chaos.social/users/f4grx/statuses/117349057818901792</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[f4grx@chaos.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 14:08:39 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to New Blog: What Would A Serious AI Product Look Like? on Mon, 28 Sep 2026 14:07:01 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/glyph%40mastodon.social">@<span>glyph</span></a></span> Sometimes, in the middle of one of your delicious threads, I recall that I started following you after "I Think I'm Done Thinking About genAI For Now" and how I'm glad that turned out to be a lie.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://heretic.social/users/stanley/statuses/117349051360133987</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://heretic.social/users/stanley/statuses/117349051360133987</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[stanley@heretic.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 14:07:01 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to New Blog: What Would A Serious AI Product Look Like? on Mon, 28 Sep 2026 11:14:16 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/glyph%40mastodon.social">@<span>glyph</span></a></span> I like this post a lot. I have one minor piece of feedback if you'd like to hear it, if not feel free to ignore.</p><p>One mitigation you suggest is an in house therapist at companies to check for AI-usage-related health issues. As someone who has been in therapy outside of work I'm skeptical of this as the solution. I suspect you're looking for an analogy to an in house doctor for diagnosis of physical injuries. If that's what you mean (a) you probably mean psychologist rather than therapist but (b) I don't trust my employer with that knowledge of myself anyway, as the incentives are misaligned, and maybe something like worker's comp is the model to go for.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://precise.space/users/anne/statuses/117348372109840150</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://precise.space/users/anne/statuses/117348372109840150</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[anne@precise.space]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 11:14:16 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to New Blog: What Would A Serious AI Product Look Like? on Mon, 28 Sep 2026 09:12:04 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<span><a href="/user/glyph%40mastodon.social" rel="ugc">@<span>glyph</span></a></span> I think there should be more applications of an LLM's outputs and internal state besides just answering prompts. Such as spellchecking, next word prediction (for when you're out of ideas on how to finish a sentence) or detecting unexpected phrasings.]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://activitypub.ro/objects/0d9fee66-6cad-49d7-a387-4c197d46f748</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://activitypub.ro/objects/0d9fee66-6cad-49d7-a387-4c197d46f748</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[edward@activitypub.ro]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 09:12:04 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to New Blog: What Would A Serious AI Product Look Like? on Mon, 28 Sep 2026 08:41:45 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/glyph%40mastodon.social">@<span>glyph</span></a></span> Oh I was there at the start, and I felt that point that LLM are *fundamentally* not able to do these things that are needed is something I did not feel in there, but yes. Well written <img src="https://forum.fedi.dk/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f642.png?v=7979fdcf9c7" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--slightly_smiling_face" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":)" alt="🙂" /> and thank you for putting it out!</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/Di4na/statuses/117347772350249228</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/Di4na/statuses/117347772350249228</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[di4na@hachyderm.io]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 08:41:45 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to New Blog: What Would A Serious AI Product Look Like? on Mon, 28 Sep 2026 08:14:01 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/glyph%40mastodon.social" rel="nofollow noopener">@<span>glyph</span></a></span> Did they just "skill issue lol" your scepticism? Yeah, seems right.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://oldbytes.space/users/nini/statuses/117347663344433288</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://oldbytes.space/users/nini/statuses/117347663344433288</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[nini@oldbytes.space]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 08:14:01 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to New Blog: What Would A Serious AI Product Look Like? on Mon, 28 Sep 2026 07:23:14 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/di4na%40hachyderm.io">@<span>Di4na</span></a></span> yeah, that was kinda the point. I guess it was well-written if I brought you along with me to the end before you got there:)</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/glyph/statuses/117347463645373631</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/glyph/statuses/117347463645373631</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[glyph@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 07:23:14 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to New Blog: What Would A Serious AI Product Look Like? on Mon, 28 Sep 2026 07:22:11 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/glyph%40mastodon.social">@<span>glyph</span></a></span> I do not disagree but I am not sure LLMs can actually still "work" with these. Or that the current architecture can support these measures.</p><p>Which... Well reach the same point as your conclusion isn't it....</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/Di4na/statuses/117347459482331633</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/Di4na/statuses/117347459482331633</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[di4na@hachyderm.io]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 07:22:11 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to New Blog: What Would A Serious AI Product Look Like? on Mon, 28 Sep 2026 06:59:34 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/glyph%40mastodon.social">@<span>glyph</span></a></span> gratitude for this post! </p><p>// I've made a few tools for myself using LLMs - scripts or programs. *If* I use an LLM at runtime, it's invoked through a standard UI action - never chat, and the underlying context is configurable. Had not realized until reading your words that this isn't standard practice.</p><p>The harnesses from "frontier" labs are like old science kits for kids with dangerous materials. One must infer that people involved in building them are unserious and/or delusional.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/hiway/statuses/117347370556314982</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/hiway/statuses/117347370556314982</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[hiway@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 06:59:34 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to New Blog: What Would A Serious AI Product Look Like? on Mon, 28 Sep 2026 06:08:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/glyph%40mastodon.social">@<span>glyph</span></a></span> all of this so much. Thank you for putting the words to the page!</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.art/users/smilingdemon/statuses/117347170200163792</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.art/users/smilingdemon/statuses/117347170200163792</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[smilingdemon@mastodon.art]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 06:08:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to New Blog: What Would A Serious AI Product Look Like? on Mon, 28 Sep 2026 05:56:28 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/jdp23%40neuromatch.social">@<span>jdp23</span></a></span></p><p>Thank you for your work.<br /> <span><a href="/user/glyph%40mastodon.social">@<span>glyph</span></a></span></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sunny.garden/users/vervain/statuses/117347122445861522</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sunny.garden/users/vervain/statuses/117347122445861522</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[vervain@sunny.garden]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 05:56:28 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to New Blog: What Would A Serious AI Product Look Like? on Mon, 28 Sep 2026 05:46:09 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/teotwaki%40mastodon.online">@<span>teotwaki</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/kehvarl%40furry.engineer">@<span>Kehvarl</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/glyph%40mastodon.social">@<span>glyph</span></a></span> <br />Hence "documentation or training"; you can get training in how to use a circular saw safely and how to make a lap joint</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://rants.au/users/sabik/statuses/117347081862442824</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://rants.au/users/sabik/statuses/117347081862442824</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[sabik@rants.au]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 05:46:09 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to New Blog: What Would A Serious AI Product Look Like? on Mon, 28 Sep 2026 05:26:23 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/kehvarl%40furry.engineer">@<span>Kehvarl</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/glyph%40mastodon.social">@<span>glyph</span></a></span> Now, there is no doubt in my mind that Glyph has both the knowledge, experience and understanding he claims to have.</p><p>But just because you’ve read about LLMs and agentic workflows doesn’t mean you understand how appealing and debilitating—in one word, how corrupting—they are.</p><p>It’s almost like all those jokes and stories about genies that kind of understood what you asked for and then took wild liberties with one specific clause.</p><p>Today you get 3 wishes. Tomorrow 10k tokens.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/teotwaki/statuses/117347004170515976</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/teotwaki/statuses/117347004170515976</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[teotwaki@mastodon.online]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 05:26:23 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to New Blog: What Would A Serious AI Product Look Like? on Mon, 28 Sep 2026 05:23:40 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/jdp23%40neuromatch.social">@<span>jdp23</span></a></span> man I have so much to say about this but I have already written so many words today. suffice it to say I couldn’t agree more</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/glyph/statuses/117346993471149959</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/glyph/statuses/117346993471149959</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[glyph@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 05:23:40 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to New Blog: What Would A Serious AI Product Look Like? on Mon, 28 Sep 2026 05:21:36 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/glyph%40mastodon.social" rel="nofollow noopener">@<span>glyph</span></a></span> totally agree about how bots shouldn't be allowed ot use first-person language.  In the last Washington state legislative session, there was a bill prohibiting chatbots from using several manipulative techniques with minors, and I pointed out that using first-person language was even more manipulative than the techniques they were banning so they really should include that as well.   For that matter I also suggested that only prohibiting applying these techniques to minors legitimized applying them to seniors, adults with mental health problems and other vulnerable groups, so the extensions should apply to everybody -- and several researches who had done studies on the harms of AI chatbots also suggested that.  But no.  It's almost as if they were more concerned about looking like they were doing something to reduce harms than about actually doing something to reduce harms.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://neuromatch.social/users/jdp23/statuses/117346985336379612</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://neuromatch.social/users/jdp23/statuses/117346985336379612</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[jdp23@neuromatch.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 05:21:36 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to New Blog: What Would A Serious AI Product Look Like? on Mon, 28 Sep 2026 05:19:10 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/kehvarl%40furry.engineer">@<span>Kehvarl</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/glyph%40mastodon.social">@<span>glyph</span></a></span> Yes and no.</p><p>Yes, tools have a specific utility and purpose. Yes, you may gain some knowledge on the intended utility and use case by reading about the tools. No, you don’t get an understanding (aka, knowledge + experience) just by reading.</p><p>For example, I think most people know what a circular saw, jigsaw, and router look like and they have some knowledge of how they function.</p><p>Most people don’t have the understanding of how to make a lap joint using said tools, or why.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/teotwaki/statuses/117346975751790530</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/teotwaki/statuses/117346975751790530</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[teotwaki@mastodon.online]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 05:19:10 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to New Blog: What Would A Serious AI Product Look Like? on Mon, 28 Sep 2026 05:11:17 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/glyph%40mastodon.social">@<span>glyph</span></a></span> I daily see the output extruded with LLMs by enthusiastic supporters who have been eagerly using the tools to generate code for a couple of years now and…using it more does not cause the output to be good.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/watters/statuses/117346944785037047</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/watters/statuses/117346944785037047</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[watters@hachyderm.io]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 05:11:17 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to New Blog: What Would A Serious AI Product Look Like? on Mon, 28 Sep 2026 05:00:43 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/glyph%40mastodon.social">@<span>glyph</span></a></span> wrt the natural-language interfaces... natural language is a *terrible* way to deal with a lot of things. Particularly in the sciences and engineering and math and computing, where we have, for the entire lifetimes of those as serious fields, gone *out of our way* to develop entire new notation systems and standards to try to deal with them without natural language... <br />Like, pretty often you can have one page of math notation, or you can have a 60-page natural language explanation.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://girlcock.club/users/miss_rodent/statuses/117346903245344777</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://girlcock.club/users/miss_rodent/statuses/117346903245344777</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[miss_rodent@girlcock.club]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 05:00:43 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to New Blog: What Would A Serious AI Product Look Like? on Mon, 28 Sep 2026 04:57:40 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/glyph%40mastodon.social">@<span>glyph</span></a></span> </p><p>That sounds a lot like: "You can't understand how to properly use drugs if you don't use the drugs enough." ( Please substitute the legal or otherwise performance-enhancing substance of your choice.)</p><p>I thought it was just a tool.  Shouldn't tools include proper documentation or training.  Maybe some descriptions of when they're the right tool for the job and when they're not?</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://furry.engineer/users/Kehvarl/statuses/117346891204109940</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://furry.engineer/users/Kehvarl/statuses/117346891204109940</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[kehvarl@furry.engineer]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 04:57:40 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to New Blog: What Would A Serious AI Product Look Like? on Mon, 28 Sep 2026 04:53:43 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>This post will do exactly nothing to stop the flood of such replies. But a man can dream. And now at least I can just drop a link and move on.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/glyph/statuses/117346875681779932</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/glyph/statuses/117346875681779932</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[glyph@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 04:53:43 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to New Blog: What Would A Serious AI Product Look Like? on Mon, 28 Sep 2026 04:53:17 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I got tired of being told that, as a skeptic, I don't know anything about how to actually use an LLM, that I just need to use it more in order to understand the workflows. I understand the workflows. They are either too dangerous or they don't exist.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/glyph/statuses/117346873971895969</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/glyph/statuses/117346873971895969</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[glyph@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 04:53:17 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>