<![CDATA[Dear Fedi friends,The normalization of "vibe coding" in certain environments is pushing me in the exact opposite direction]]>Dear Fedi friends,

The normalization of "vibe coding" in certain environments is pushing me in the exact opposite direction.

I, a normie (ok maybe a semi-technical person), would like to learn some basic computer programming*.

*** Update at 10pm ***

I’ve been offline for the past 6 hours and I checked my notifications before going to sleep: 71 new mentions 😳 thank you for all your generous advice, I’ll respond one-by-one tomorrow morning. Good night! ❀️

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I need some advice about where to start because I'm a little clueless in this regard. Maybe it will help to share my goals, so that you can tailor your advice:

1) I'd like to become much more proficient using CLI... so that one day for example I could migrate a #YunoHost app to a new server without breaking anything

2) I'd like to be able to confidently run remote backups with rsync

3) Security: I need to learn how to turn my VPS or Raspi into a fortress

4) Eventually I'd like to learn #FreeBSD

Where does one even start?

I'm based in Paris, France, speak French, English and Italian, but remote learning is preferable because my child is in school only 4 days a week and has 2-week holidays every 6 weeks of school (thanks to the French educational system, don't ask me).

I'm super motivated to learn all these things, I just don't know where to start.

*Edit: maybe I'm just dreaming of becoming a proficient sysadmin

#AskFedi #MySoCalledSudoLife #NoAI

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/30c08a9d-59b4-42ab-892b-5793ab85e83f/dear-fedi-friends-the-normalization-of-vibe-coding-in-certain-environments-is-pushing-me-in-the-exact-opposite-directionRSS for NodeTue, 25 Aug 2026 21:28:43 GMTThu, 05 Mar 2026 12:09:19 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Dear Fedi friends,The normalization of "vibe coding" in certain environments is pushing me in the exact opposite direction on Fri, 06 Mar 2026 12:56:39 GMT]]>@elena Great! If anything doesn't make sense there, feel free to drop a comment or email me. Good luck!

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/jschauma/statuses/116182338746808494https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/jschauma/statuses/116182338746808494Fri, 06 Mar 2026 12:56:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Dear Fedi friends,The normalization of "vibe coding" in certain environments is pushing me in the exact opposite direction on Fri, 06 Mar 2026 08:36:45 GMT]]>@lxo thank you for the explanation / advice πŸ™‚

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK14NG3M0VK4QXA794RZ6CRWhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK14NG3M0VK4QXA794RZ6CRWFri, 06 Mar 2026 08:36:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Dear Fedi friends,The normalization of "vibe coding" in certain environments is pushing me in the exact opposite direction on Fri, 06 Mar 2026 08:35:04 GMT]]>@sharlatan thank you!

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK14JE5VGY9RBCXVMF4Z8DFNhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK14JE5VGY9RBCXVMF4Z8DFNFri, 06 Mar 2026 08:35:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Dear Fedi friends,The normalization of "vibe coding" in certain environments is pushing me in the exact opposite direction on Fri, 06 Mar 2026 08:34:30 GMT]]>@clew @ottaross πŸ˜…β€‹

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK14HCJE3CCKR415MTGBK9V0https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK14HCJE3CCKR415MTGBK9V0Fri, 06 Mar 2026 08:34:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Dear Fedi friends,The normalization of "vibe coding" in certain environments is pushing me in the exact opposite direction on Fri, 06 Mar 2026 08:34:07 GMT]]>@JulianOliver thank you Julian!

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK14GPN2JJ4H2NGWA49ERDFEhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK14GPN2JJ4H2NGWA49ERDFEFri, 06 Mar 2026 08:34:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Dear Fedi friends,The normalization of "vibe coding" in certain environments is pushing me in the exact opposite direction on Fri, 06 Mar 2026 08:32:17 GMT]]>@jschauma @jpmens thank you! I look forward to watching your course (i've been managing 2 servers for a year but it's all DIY and i need more knowledge/guidance)

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK14DBGWFPQ798709Z762YEFhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK14DBGWFPQ798709Z762YEFFri, 06 Mar 2026 08:32:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Dear Fedi friends,The normalization of "vibe coding" in certain environments is pushing me in the exact opposite direction on Fri, 06 Mar 2026 08:30:36 GMT]]>@jpmens oooooh SUPERB advice, thank you! exactly what I was looking for

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK14A7ZW99P8EBQZGGBK9MZ4https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK14A7ZW99P8EBQZGGBK9MZ4Fri, 06 Mar 2026 08:30:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Dear Fedi friends,The normalization of "vibe coding" in certain environments is pushing me in the exact opposite direction on Fri, 06 Mar 2026 08:27:28 GMT]]>@jpmens thank you JP!

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK144GRJAKAAAESV00Y8XBNKhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK144GRJAKAAAESV00Y8XBNKFri, 06 Mar 2026 08:27:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Dear Fedi friends,The normalization of "vibe coding" in certain environments is pushing me in the exact opposite direction on Fri, 06 Mar 2026 08:27:05 GMT]]>@m4lvin @b0rk yes I already have one of her zines. Fantastic work

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK143T5SQPKE1EQCCJXS4E2Khttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK143T5SQPKE1EQCCJXS4E2KFri, 06 Mar 2026 08:27:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Dear Fedi friends,The normalization of "vibe coding" in certain environments is pushing me in the exact opposite direction on Fri, 06 Mar 2026 08:23:50 GMT]]>@sillybird92 thanks!

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK13XVTQJGTGMWSSEGXWKJZGhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK13XVTQJGTGMWSSEGXWKJZGFri, 06 Mar 2026 08:23:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Dear Fedi friends,The normalization of "vibe coding" in certain environments is pushing me in the exact opposite direction on Fri, 06 Mar 2026 08:03:25 GMT]]>@nathan ooooh great to know, thank you!

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK12RG02N98523NEXC8WZ1BHhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK12RG02N98523NEXC8WZ1BHFri, 06 Mar 2026 08:03:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Dear Fedi friends,The normalization of "vibe coding" in certain environments is pushing me in the exact opposite direction on Fri, 06 Mar 2026 07:58:27 GMT]]>@SeanPLynch thank you Sean!

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK12FD3WK65DB1PVV39R8PHChttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK12FD3WK65DB1PVV39R8PHCFri, 06 Mar 2026 07:58:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Dear Fedi friends,The normalization of "vibe coding" in certain environments is pushing me in the exact opposite direction on Fri, 06 Mar 2026 07:50:06 GMT]]>@jcnotwit thank you! Will definitely do this either before or after MIT's missing semester

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK12039A5XVDZ4H4DE9KHWEHhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK12039A5XVDZ4H4DE9KHWEHFri, 06 Mar 2026 07:50:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Dear Fedi friends,The normalization of "vibe coding" in certain environments is pushing me in the exact opposite direction on Fri, 06 Mar 2026 07:49:06 GMT]]>@flesh I'm probably gonna save the arch linux experiment to my year 2 or 3 after learning basics πŸ˜‰β€‹

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK11Y910HSTJJT6E83PTQS40https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK11Y910HSTJJT6E83PTQS40Fri, 06 Mar 2026 07:49:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Dear Fedi friends,The normalization of "vibe coding" in certain environments is pushing me in the exact opposite direction on Fri, 06 Mar 2026 07:46:24 GMT]]>@patpro thank you for all the great advice and resources!

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK11SADATPQN8VX77WAX65V3https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK11SADATPQN8VX77WAX65V3Fri, 06 Mar 2026 07:46:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Dear Fedi friends,The normalization of "vibe coding" in certain environments is pushing me in the exact opposite direction on Fri, 06 Mar 2026 07:45:17 GMT]]>@ottaross thanks! I typically save my favorite commands in a document so I can copy and paste them πŸ€—β€‹

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK11Q92NZK0GNVX8WH39ZHW1https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK11Q92NZK0GNVX8WH39ZHW1Fri, 06 Mar 2026 07:45:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Dear Fedi friends,The normalization of "vibe coding" in certain environments is pushing me in the exact opposite direction on Fri, 06 Mar 2026 07:40:59 GMT]]>@jonathanhogg yes! I would love to! Looking into Scratch now

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK11FDG9XYGV580GAEBSSXYPhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK11FDG9XYGV580GAEBSSXYPFri, 06 Mar 2026 07:40:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Dear Fedi friends,The normalization of "vibe coding" in certain environments is pushing me in the exact opposite direction on Fri, 06 Mar 2026 07:40:40 GMT]]>@mausmalone @vkc oooh I know Veronica and I've already learned so much from her excellent videos. I suppose I should have clarified in my message that I have one year of experience managing two servers... but I'd like to become a more knowledgeable sysadmin that can do some basic coding...

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK11ETTF8P156P197S9RXWGGhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK11ETTF8P156P197S9RXWGGFri, 06 Mar 2026 07:40:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Dear Fedi friends,The normalization of "vibe coding" in certain environments is pushing me in the exact opposite direction on Fri, 06 Mar 2026 07:36:56 GMT]]>@joel Thank you Joel! Indeed I had edited my message yesterday to say that I probably dreamed of becoming a proficient sysadmin... who can understand some basic programming...

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK117ZK1E80835QN6T0K8HYWhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://aseachange.com/users/elena/statuses/01KK117ZK1E80835QN6T0K8HYWFri, 06 Mar 2026 07:36:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Dear Fedi friends,The normalization of "vibe coding" in certain environments is pushing me in the exact opposite direction on Fri, 06 Mar 2026 01:58:54 GMT]]>
@elena@aseachange.com, it's also important to set out to use the CLI. one important thing to have in mind is that while it's suited for very efficient use, it's not exactly suited for discoverability, in that it doesn't have offer menus for you to pick from, you sort of have to know what you're looking for to even know which manual to read.

though there are clusters of commands that are often available together, such as the shell builtins, and the commands in GNU coreutils and the likes, there will be plenty of variation across systems depending on distro defaults, package selections and whatnot.

so don't worry about mastering everything (it's a neverending task), and focus on learning about the tools you find yourself wanting to use at first (you mentioned rsync; it has a very decent manual); you may also want to skim the GNU bash manual page, particularly the builtin commands, and the GNU coreutils manual (whether info, pdf, or html). There is plenty of stuff that probably won't click at first, but you'll most certainly also find things that you will be able to experiment with to start building your knowledge about how to use command shells, how to compound commands with pipelines, and soon you'll be writing scripts to automate tasks and wishing you'd learned this stuff sooner πŸ˜‰

when you get to FreeBSD, you may find that some of the details will be different, but the acquired knowledge will be useful there too

have a joyous and useful journey!
]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://snac.lx.oliva.nom.br/lxo/p/1772762334.739213https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://snac.lx.oliva.nom.br/lxo/p/1772762334.739213Fri, 06 Mar 2026 01:58:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Dear Fedi friends,The normalization of "vibe coding" in certain environments is pushing me in the exact opposite direction on Thu, 05 Mar 2026 19:54:39 GMT]]>@elena loooong ago before LLM booming I started with collecting small oneliners to master new skills it might be still useful https://github.com/Hellseher/cix

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/sharlatan/statuses/116178320077105844https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/sharlatan/statuses/116178320077105844Thu, 05 Mar 2026 19:54:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Dear Fedi friends,The normalization of "vibe coding" in certain environments is pushing me in the exact opposite direction on Thu, 05 Mar 2026 18:35:03 GMT]]>I think sysadmin commands should scare you *a little bit* , but the sysadmin response is β€œwith safeguards β€œ

My household has a β€œno power tools after 10pm” because our bad error rate was too high late at night.

Lemma: rm is a power tool.
Also from experience! But we had backups.

@elena @ottaross

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://ecoevo.social/users/clew/statuses/116178007037077738https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://ecoevo.social/users/clew/statuses/116178007037077738Thu, 05 Mar 2026 18:35:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Dear Fedi friends,The normalization of "vibe coding" in certain environments is pushing me in the exact opposite direction on Thu, 05 Mar 2026 17:25:43 GMT]]>@elena Hey there, here are some remote learning courses you may like:

https://courses.nikau.io/currently-available-courses

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/JulianOliver/statuses/116177734445231361https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/JulianOliver/statuses/116177734445231361Thu, 05 Mar 2026 17:25:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Dear Fedi friends,The normalization of "vibe coding" in certain environments is pushing me in the exact opposite direction on Thu, 05 Mar 2026 16:23:33 GMT]]>@ottaross @elena

Oh! And the apropos command (should be installed by default on most systems) is also useful to know.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/skjeggtroll/statuses/116177489986169129https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/skjeggtroll/statuses/116177489986169129Thu, 05 Mar 2026 16:23:33 GMT