<![CDATA[computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program themthen in the late 70s, you could finally program them!]]>computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program them
then in the late 70s, you could finally program them! for free! you just had to own a microcomputer! yay
but then in the 80s and 90s you had to buy compilers, which were expensive
by with the 2000s, rapidly compilers and interpreters became free again. anyone could program, for free!

and then in the 2020s someone invented "programming but you have to pay", again.

DON'T FALL FOR THIS TRAP

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/31f35ed6-974a-4b06-a076-2f3bf8f7e689/computers-were-invented-in-the-mumblties-and-you-had-to-pay-to-program-themthen-in-the-late-70s-you-could-finally-program-themRSS for NodeThu, 09 Jul 2026 15:39:22 GMTThu, 09 Jul 2026 02:41:09 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program themthen in the late 70s, you could finally program them! on Thu, 09 Jul 2026 11:46:39 GMT]]>@foone oh the ai bubble bust is coming soon enough at this rate...

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://masto.hackers.town/users/earthshine/statuses/116889852256919245https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://masto.hackers.town/users/earthshine/statuses/116889852256919245Thu, 09 Jul 2026 11:46:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program themthen in the late 70s, you could finally program them! on Thu, 09 Jul 2026 11:01:10 GMT]]>@foone since the mid 80s I am paid to do work with computers but I am a shitty programmer. now I am an archivist. the arrival of the LLMs enabled me to be creative with software. I think of something and the machine does it for me. I know mine is not the common experience but it also exists.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tooot.im/users/hananc/statuses/116889673438340575https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tooot.im/users/hananc/statuses/116889673438340575Thu, 09 Jul 2026 11:01:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program themthen in the late 70s, you could finally program them! on Thu, 09 Jul 2026 10:12:23 GMT]]>@foone well said

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.africa/users/kaasbaas/statuses/116889481636476728https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.africa/users/kaasbaas/statuses/116889481636476728Thu, 09 Jul 2026 10:12:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program themthen in the late 70s, you could finally program them! on Thu, 09 Jul 2026 10:05:03 GMT]]>@foone The free and local LLMs are perfectly usable for development, admin and cybersec work. All you need is a regular gaming graphics card or a computer with unified memory for them to work well.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://swecyb.com/users/troed/statuses/116889452764788866https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://swecyb.com/users/troed/statuses/116889452764788866Thu, 09 Jul 2026 10:05:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program themthen in the late 70s, you could finally program them! on Thu, 09 Jul 2026 09:15:29 GMT]]>@foone
It was so wonderful having a CRT based editor instead of punching cards to run on George (guarded by acolytes).
I did buy Modula-2 compilers twice. My boss paid for VB6 enterprise. The M2 programs compiled for NT 3.51 do still run on Win10. I did GUI for XP in VB6 and the real code as M2 DLLS. Most VB6 doesn't work on 64 bit Win7 or Win10. Things like serial port OCX.
The Cloud is just like the 1960s, but with faster & less secure connections. They can keep it.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.ie/users/raymaccarthy/statuses/116889257882599935https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.ie/users/raymaccarthy/statuses/116889257882599935Thu, 09 Jul 2026 09:15:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program themthen in the late 70s, you could finally program them! on Thu, 09 Jul 2026 09:09:51 GMT]]>@foone Almost everything I can do and know is the result of refusing to pay for $something.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.tchncs.de/users/flxtr/statuses/116889235735602730https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.tchncs.de/users/flxtr/statuses/116889235735602730Thu, 09 Jul 2026 09:09:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program themthen in the late 70s, you could finally program them! on Thu, 09 Jul 2026 08:54:07 GMT]]>@SvenGeier

I do not understand your comment.

What makes ones time worthless? Because I really can't think of examples.

(Thanks in advance for clarifying. 🙂 )

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tuebingen.network/users/johnnythan/statuses/116889173838443270https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tuebingen.network/users/johnnythan/statuses/116889173838443270Thu, 09 Jul 2026 08:54:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program themthen in the late 70s, you could finally program them! on Thu, 09 Jul 2026 08:50:16 GMT]]>@bersl2 @foone How's that going for oil products, like diesel? You know, the most widely used fuel we all have to use that should have tons of competition driving the price down because it's so ubiquitous?

No market is big enough to avoid price fixing.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://ohai.social/users/cohentheblue/statuses/116889158681655600https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://ohai.social/users/cohentheblue/statuses/116889158681655600Thu, 09 Jul 2026 08:50:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program themthen in the late 70s, you could finally program them! on Thu, 09 Jul 2026 08:43:33 GMT]]>@foone @sophia81 I think I have something that might interest you

https://github.com/uditkarode/ucc

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/sounddrill/statuses/116889132296771682https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/sounddrill/statuses/116889132296771682Thu, 09 Jul 2026 08:43:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program themthen in the late 70s, you could finally program them! on Thu, 09 Jul 2026 08:30:47 GMT]]>@foone sharecropping our own brains we used to call it

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://masto.free-dissociation.com/ap/users/115578334005274103/statuses/116889082107673252https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://masto.free-dissociation.com/ap/users/115578334005274103/statuses/116889082107673252Thu, 09 Jul 2026 08:30:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program themthen in the late 70s, you could finally program them! on Thu, 09 Jul 2026 08:29:22 GMT]]>@foone what if programming but it was like an MTG draft

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://masto.free-dissociation.com/ap/users/115578334005274103/statuses/116889076533409832https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://masto.free-dissociation.com/ap/users/115578334005274103/statuses/116889076533409832Thu, 09 Jul 2026 08:29:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program themthen in the late 70s, you could finally program them! on Thu, 09 Jul 2026 08:07:30 GMT]]>@cjwatson @foone That’s what I assumed too, though I’m not a native English speaker.]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://p.changeme.fr.eu.org/objects/ca0a9833-a536-4476-aee6-e396642241a7https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://p.changeme.fr.eu.org/objects/ca0a9833-a536-4476-aee6-e396642241a7Thu, 09 Jul 2026 08:07:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program themthen in the late 70s, you could finally program them! on Thu, 09 Jul 2026 08:03:31 GMT]]>@BetaRays @foone This was discussed on https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=73708 - people there generally seemed to think it was more likely that it came directly from the "low-quality food for pigs" sense rather than from the antisemitic meme, though it's pretty hard to prove either way.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.ie/users/cjwatson/statuses/116888974883964630https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.ie/users/cjwatson/statuses/116888974883964630Thu, 09 Jul 2026 08:03:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program themthen in the late 70s, you could finally program them! on Thu, 09 Jul 2026 07:59:14 GMT]]>@sounddrill
I am deeply sorry for your academic trauma 🫂

@foone

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://icosahedron.website/users/sophia81/statuses/116888958016896722https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://icosahedron.website/users/sophia81/statuses/116888958016896722Thu, 09 Jul 2026 07:59:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program themthen in the late 70s, you could finally program them! on Thu, 09 Jul 2026 07:41:04 GMT]]>@foone
Companies pushing so-called "AI":

"We'll write bad code for you, so you don't have to pay a programmer to do it! And we'll only charge you 3x what you would have to.pay a programmer to write good code!"

Um, no thank you. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/brouhaha/statuses/116888886604371459https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/brouhaha/statuses/116888886604371459Thu, 09 Jul 2026 07:41:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program themthen in the late 70s, you could finally program them! on Thu, 09 Jul 2026 07:23:25 GMT]]>@foone@digipres.club

and for a bonus, it’s also based on an antisemitic meme! yay!

wait what???

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://p.changeme.fr.eu.org/objects/b23d3948-1969-4bc5-b083-2de85bef3e65https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://p.changeme.fr.eu.org/objects/b23d3948-1969-4bc5-b083-2de85bef3e65Thu, 09 Jul 2026 07:23:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program themthen in the late 70s, you could finally program them! on Thu, 09 Jul 2026 06:56:53 GMT]]>@sounddrill @sophia81

fun fact: I have a qemu VM to automate running Turbo C++ to compile one of my programs

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://digipres.club/users/foone/statuses/116888712854156591https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://digipres.club/users/foone/statuses/116888712854156591Thu, 09 Jul 2026 06:56:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program themthen in the late 70s, you could finally program them! on Thu, 09 Jul 2026 06:47:15 GMT]]>@sophia81 @foone fun fact, you can run turbo C++ through the web dosbox port, if you wanna relive the memories

Here's a toy deployment https://turboc.pages.dev

Just a heads up, firefox has a couple of keys wrongly mapped

Some colleges in my country still make you use TurboC++ ig

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/sounddrill/statuses/116888675018638624https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/sounddrill/statuses/116888675018638624Thu, 09 Jul 2026 06:47:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program themthen in the late 70s, you could finally program them! on Thu, 09 Jul 2026 06:42:21 GMT]]>@SvenGeier @foone

That's like saying reading or drawing or walking among mossy trees is only free if your time is worthless. Time spent doing what you want to do isn't a cost centre my dude.

Is there some argument for letting corporations rent-seek all human activities? That definitely isn't it.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.scot/users/petealexharris/statuses/116888655744634095https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.scot/users/petealexharris/statuses/116888655744634095Thu, 09 Jul 2026 06:42:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program themthen in the late 70s, you could finally program them! on Thu, 09 Jul 2026 06:26:08 GMT]]>@SvenGeier bro what?

are you... are you comparing learning to program vs using AI with using Linux vs using Windows?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://furry.engineer/users/AVincentInSpace/statuses/116888591977594570https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://furry.engineer/users/AVincentInSpace/statuses/116888591977594570Thu, 09 Jul 2026 06:26:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program themthen in the late 70s, you could finally program them! on Thu, 09 Jul 2026 06:23:57 GMT]]>@foone
First I was thinking you were speaking about Apple and in the future Google requiring a paid membership to distribute/run apps to/on mobile devices...

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://nrw.social/users/myrakel/statuses/116888583353473223https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://nrw.social/users/myrakel/statuses/116888583353473223Thu, 09 Jul 2026 06:23:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program themthen in the late 70s, you could finally program them! on Thu, 09 Jul 2026 06:21:31 GMT]]>@foone Here's an answer you might get, in the form of a 74-minute video essay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4mdMMu-3fc

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://furry.engineer/users/AVincentInSpace/statuses/116888573809699162https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://furry.engineer/users/AVincentInSpace/statuses/116888573809699162Thu, 09 Jul 2026 06:21:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program themthen in the late 70s, you could finally program them! on Thu, 09 Jul 2026 06:16:16 GMT]]>@ophis are you just talking about open-weight models
@foone

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://wetdry.world/users/risc/statuses/116888553152938896https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://wetdry.world/users/risc/statuses/116888553152938896Thu, 09 Jul 2026 06:16:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program themthen in the late 70s, you could finally program them! on Thu, 09 Jul 2026 06:11:45 GMT]]>@Argonel @foone

They aren't charging because they have lock-in.

It's too early for that.

They're charging because they need to demonstrate profitability before they either IPO or crash'n'burn...

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.coop/users/BillySmith/statuses/116888535383793086https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.coop/users/BillySmith/statuses/116888535383793086Thu, 09 Jul 2026 06:11:45 GMT