I still haven’t figured out how to talk to people that are bragging about their jetting around the world on vacation. I don’t want to be a climate scold, but I feel I should bring up how that behavior I’d just not sustainable. Has anyone thought of a good way to broach the subject?

We're living through an ecosystem collapse. The climate collapse is bad, but the sea is dying, there's a mass extinction. It's grim.

If doing what you're doing is 'old woman', then I guess we need a lot more old women.

"I use the phrase 'climate collapse'. Klimakollaps. Not climate change."

I do something similar, except I use:
'irreversible climate change'.

I do this because most people are totally unaware that if we stop everything, now, today... no cars, no planes, no fossil fuels, then this is ~ where we stay. I doesn't go back. Where we are today, is the best it will be for tens or even hundreds of generations.

https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/faq/is-it-too-late-to-prevent-climate-change/

@CiaraNi @clintruin

@miki @CiaraNi @FreakyFwoof

"This is the last coldest summer of our lifes."

I think a lot of the frenzy about Israel is people subconsciously railing against something they think they can impact. People don't want to think about the problems facing us all. It's much easier to pour all of that fear into hate

I like to use the term: climate chaos. A lot of the terms we use feel too orderly for me.

The resident expert, Prof Legasov: "It's not alarmist if it's a fact."

Maybe it can be classified as "Old woman yells at missing clouds"?

I appreciate your response because people didn't seem to get it... too polite.

Climate Collapse Climate Collapse Climate Collapse and that's not a lie.

"We have to find a common solution" was her motto.
Means, if you don't come up with something, we don't have to do anything.

That's why also in Germany we fight the unwinnable battles.

The lobby for keeping the status quo is stronger and better financed than the lobby for change.

They also like to talk about "future generations" etc. but actually they don't care at all. If they did, they'd behave differently.

One of the things that is giving me some hope these days is a podcast, of all things. An audio drama. Lost Terminal. A hopepunk, solarpunk series based in the post-collapse world, after climate collapse and 'the resource wars'. It's based in technological and scientific and natural science reality, showing ways to live in a restructured human society. So much hope and civilization. Great drama story too.

https://lostterminal.com/

"adapting to unpredictability is *hard*"

A great point.

@CiaraNi

He characterizes it as a mind virus that has come to predominate the globe, spread largely by western civilization.

Our way of speaking and thinking, of separateness from nature, the earth, each other, and even our very selves is a sickness. Untended, it leads to our destruction.