<![CDATA[@autistics #ActuallyAutistic recently made the mistake of commenting on an IG post and i took issue with someone calling autism a disorder…]]>@autistics recently made the mistake of commenting on an IG post and i took issue with someone calling autism a disorder…

…i was then scolded that the "community" considers disorder and disability to be the same thing…

…i responded that disorder should be replaced with condition since disorder is inherently negative and leads to othering…

…am i alone in thinking disorder is not the same as disability?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/412afdd4-bf67-4e57-a738-b54b1deefdac/@autistics-actuallyautistic-recently-made-the-mistake-of-commenting-on-an-ig-post-and-i-took-issue-with-someone-calling-autism-a-disorderRSS for NodeWed, 13 May 2026 20:31:45 GMTTue, 12 May 2026 15:51:30 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to @autistics #ActuallyAutistic recently made the mistake of commenting on an IG post and i took issue with someone calling autism a disorder… on Wed, 13 May 2026 13:12:40 GMT]]>@pathfinder @alexisbushnell Thank you for expressing this probably better than I could. I live in a fully neurodivergent household, but even still, I sometimes find my autism to be disabling.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://autistics.life/users/tarrenvane/statuses/116567438797152015https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://autistics.life/users/tarrenvane/statuses/116567438797152015Wed, 13 May 2026 13:12:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @autistics #ActuallyAutistic recently made the mistake of commenting on an IG post and i took issue with someone calling autism a disorder… on Wed, 13 May 2026 12:47:12 GMT]]>@pathfinder @filmfreak75 @autistics I don't feel disordered. I like the way my brain works. The problem is one of acceptance and inclusion.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://flickering.style/users/valentine/statuses/01KRGP0ZH780106N85QS4G3HDDhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://flickering.style/users/valentine/statuses/01KRGP0ZH780106N85QS4G3HDDWed, 13 May 2026 12:47:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @autistics #ActuallyAutistic recently made the mistake of commenting on an IG post and i took issue with someone calling autism a disorder… on Wed, 13 May 2026 12:36:30 GMT]]>@alexisbushnell @Gal_they @bardmoss @filmfreak75 @autistics

We are all disabled by autism, to some extent. And a few of us are lucky enough to have one or two autistic 'superpowers' too. It's the luck of the draw, I'm afraid. 🤷

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/PatternChaser/statuses/116567296580413561https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/PatternChaser/statuses/116567296580413561Wed, 13 May 2026 12:36:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @autistics #ActuallyAutistic recently made the mistake of commenting on an IG post and i took issue with someone calling autism a disorder… on Wed, 13 May 2026 08:28:05 GMT]]>@alexisbushnell @Gal_they @bardmoss @filmfreak75 @autistics
I agree… even alone autism is disabling and I need help for basic living needs.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Energetic_Nova/statuses/116566319793140261https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Energetic_Nova/statuses/116566319793140261Wed, 13 May 2026 08:28:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @autistics #ActuallyAutistic recently made the mistake of commenting on an IG post and i took issue with someone calling autism a disorder… on Wed, 13 May 2026 07:32:33 GMT]]>@filmfreak75 @autistics I feel like it is a disorder but for me, I don’t feel especially disabled. But I’m speaking as a recently diagnosed autistic so I acknowledge a strong sense of ableism here. I suspect that my opinion will shift over time.

However, I don’t agree with gate keeping. It should be a personal choice and reflect the individual, not a blanket to encompass all of us. 🤔

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://writing.exchange/users/benjamincox/statuses/116566101442220058https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://writing.exchange/users/benjamincox/statuses/116566101442220058Wed, 13 May 2026 07:32:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @autistics #ActuallyAutistic recently made the mistake of commenting on an IG post and i took issue with someone calling autism a disorder… on Wed, 13 May 2026 07:27:59 GMT]]>@filmfreak75 @autistics I agree that they are not the same. Firstly I suspect it's possible to be disabled and not have a disorder, unless the same people are also claiming that every single diagnosis of everything is a disorder.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://toot.wales/users/alexisbushnell/statuses/116566083447100563https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://toot.wales/users/alexisbushnell/statuses/116566083447100563Wed, 13 May 2026 07:27:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @autistics #ActuallyAutistic recently made the mistake of commenting on an IG post and i took issue with someone calling autism a disorder… on Wed, 13 May 2026 07:26:44 GMT]]>@Gal_they @bardmoss @filmfreak75 @autistics I gently disagree on autism only disabling me under the social model.
There are things that would just happen even in a society which was built around autists; changes of plan, the sun & wind existing, animals making noise, other people whose own neurotypes create things I experience as problems.

I personally am disabled by autism itself. It would be reduced in an accessible society, but not solved

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://toot.wales/users/alexisbushnell/statuses/116566078577489931https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://toot.wales/users/alexisbushnell/statuses/116566078577489931Wed, 13 May 2026 07:26:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @autistics #ActuallyAutistic recently made the mistake of commenting on an IG post and i took issue with someone calling autism a disorder… on Wed, 13 May 2026 07:08:35 GMT]]>@bardmoss @filmfreak75 @autistics being autistic is a disability under the social model of disability. This means that there is nothing inherently wrong with someone who's disabled, but that they are being disabled by a society not built for them. The way walkers would be disabled by a hypothetical society of wheelchair users who would build all ceilings to fit sitting people, or the way hearing folks not fluent in Sign Language might be in a Deaf event where all communication is done by signing.

So autism is definitely a disability, because we are being disabled by the allistic majority.

Re: disorder, I also think this kind of language is unhelpful and offensive, probably for all the conditions or ways of being described as "disorder". Like you can also be borderline or bipolar without calling it a disorder. And of course this goes for just being part of a neurological minority, such as being autistic, and I'm still waiting for ADHD folks to tell me what to call them without the deficit and disorder language.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://c.im/ap/users/116182034433048539/statuses/116566007201000936https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://c.im/ap/users/116182034433048539/statuses/116566007201000936Wed, 13 May 2026 07:08:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @autistics #ActuallyAutistic recently made the mistake of commenting on an IG post and i took issue with someone calling autism a disorder… on Wed, 13 May 2026 06:19:38 GMT]]>@ziriuz84 that’s interesting — the US doesn’t use the World Health Organization manual so we have irksome variances

@bardmoss @autistics

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/filmfreak75/statuses/116565814683655095https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/filmfreak75/statuses/116565814683655095Wed, 13 May 2026 06:19:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @autistics #ActuallyAutistic recently made the mistake of commenting on an IG post and i took issue with someone calling autism a disorder… on Wed, 13 May 2026 06:15:20 GMT]]>@bardmoss

@filmfreak75 @autistics

My diagnosis certificate here in Italy says "Autistic neurodivergent functioning level 1"

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.uno/users/ziriuz84/statuses/116565797797819052https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.uno/users/ziriuz84/statuses/116565797797819052Wed, 13 May 2026 06:15:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @autistics #ActuallyAutistic recently made the mistake of commenting on an IG post and i took issue with someone calling autism a disorder… on Wed, 13 May 2026 05:27:42 GMT]]>@filmfreak75 @autistics They're clearly not the same.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/BernieDoesIt/statuses/116565610506497441https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/BernieDoesIt/statuses/116565610506497441Wed, 13 May 2026 05:27:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @autistics #ActuallyAutistic recently made the mistake of commenting on an IG post and i took issue with someone calling autism a disorder… on Wed, 13 May 2026 04:40:19 GMT]]>@bardmoss from a medical and legal perspective that doesn’t mean anything since everything is a diagnosis

not debating it should be considered just basic human variance but that’s not the world we live in

@autistics

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/filmfreak75/statuses/116565424202603590https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/filmfreak75/statuses/116565424202603590Wed, 13 May 2026 04:40:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @autistics #ActuallyAutistic recently made the mistake of commenting on an IG post and i took issue with someone calling autism a disorder… on Wed, 13 May 2026 04:36:41 GMT]]>@filmfreak75 @autistics
Does "diagnosis" work for you?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://autistics.life/users/bardmoss/statuses/116565409862407259https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://autistics.life/users/bardmoss/statuses/116565409862407259Wed, 13 May 2026 04:36:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @autistics #ActuallyAutistic recently made the mistake of commenting on an IG post and i took issue with someone calling autism a disorder… on Wed, 13 May 2026 04:29:13 GMT]]>@bardmoss as long as there are legal implications re services and rights, it needs a
classification and that should not be disorder

@autistics

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/filmfreak75/statuses/116565380522363796https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/filmfreak75/statuses/116565380522363796Wed, 13 May 2026 04:29:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @autistics #ActuallyAutistic recently made the mistake of commenting on an IG post and i took issue with someone calling autism a disorder… on Wed, 13 May 2026 03:38:46 GMT]]>@filmfreak75 @autistics
Well you are partly right, and leaning in the right direction. Autism is neither a disorder nor a disability. It just simply is.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://autistics.life/users/bardmoss/statuses/116565182151361962https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://autistics.life/users/bardmoss/statuses/116565182151361962Wed, 13 May 2026 03:38:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @autistics #ActuallyAutistic recently made the mistake of commenting on an IG post and i took issue with someone calling autism a disorder… on Tue, 12 May 2026 19:28:26 GMT]]>@manon pretty sure OP didn’t realize i was part of the community

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/filmfreak75/statuses/116563254073354742https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/filmfreak75/statuses/116563254073354742Tue, 12 May 2026 19:28:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @autistics #ActuallyAutistic recently made the mistake of commenting on an IG post and i took issue with someone calling autism a disorder… on Tue, 12 May 2026 19:23:00 GMT]]>@filmfreak75 No, you’re not alone. A flu is a disorder bit not a disability.
I don’t like people who claim they speak for „the whole community“.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://metalhead.club/users/manon/statuses/116563232705234044https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://metalhead.club/users/manon/statuses/116563232705234044Tue, 12 May 2026 19:23:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @autistics #ActuallyAutistic recently made the mistake of commenting on an IG post and i took issue with someone calling autism a disorder… on Tue, 12 May 2026 17:43:30 GMT]]>@filmfreak75 No, not alone.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://piaille.fr/users/adelinej/statuses/116562841451157301https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://piaille.fr/users/adelinej/statuses/116562841451157301Tue, 12 May 2026 17:43:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @autistics #ActuallyAutistic recently made the mistake of commenting on an IG post and i took issue with someone calling autism a disorder… on Tue, 12 May 2026 17:40:31 GMT]]>@filmfreak75 @autistics I wonder if they also consider someone with an above-knee amputation as having a disorder? <.<

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://beige.party/users/melindrea/statuses/116562829746320645https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://beige.party/users/melindrea/statuses/116562829746320645Tue, 12 May 2026 17:40:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @autistics #ActuallyAutistic recently made the mistake of commenting on an IG post and i took issue with someone calling autism a disorder… on Tue, 12 May 2026 17:35:51 GMT]]>@filmfreak75 @autistics
Same.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://beige.party/users/pathfinder/statuses/116562811411045744https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://beige.party/users/pathfinder/statuses/116562811411045744Tue, 12 May 2026 17:35:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @autistics #ActuallyAutistic recently made the mistake of commenting on an IG post and i took issue with someone calling autism a disorder… on Tue, 12 May 2026 17:32:45 GMT]]>@pathfinder i have no issue with disability as a descriptor, i do not accept or tolerate disorder

@autistics

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/filmfreak75/statuses/116562799199863020https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/filmfreak75/statuses/116562799199863020Tue, 12 May 2026 17:32:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @autistics #ActuallyAutistic recently made the mistake of commenting on an IG post and i took issue with someone calling autism a disorder… on Tue, 12 May 2026 17:06:37 GMT]]>@filmfreak75 @autistics No, not alone, I agree with your perspective here. "Disorder" presupposes that something is internally wrong, faulty, broken. "Disability" allows that the problem might be external (lack of understanding/accomodation).

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://chaos.social/users/sennoma/statuses/116562696461396549https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://chaos.social/users/sennoma/statuses/116562696461396549Tue, 12 May 2026 17:06:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @autistics #ActuallyAutistic recently made the mistake of commenting on an IG post and i took issue with someone calling autism a disorder… on Tue, 12 May 2026 16:55:27 GMT]]>@filmfreak75 @autistics
Definitely not the same. And whilst autism is in many ways, mostly structural, a disability, it is definitely not a disorder.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://beige.party/users/pathfinder/statuses/116562652545243744https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://beige.party/users/pathfinder/statuses/116562652545243744Tue, 12 May 2026 16:55:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to @autistics #ActuallyAutistic recently made the mistake of commenting on an IG post and i took issue with someone calling autism a disorder… on Tue, 12 May 2026 16:44:32 GMT]]>@filmfreak75 No you are not alone.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://autistics.life/users/cybervegan/statuses/116562609593290086https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://autistics.life/users/cybervegan/statuses/116562609593290086Tue, 12 May 2026 16:44:32 GMT