<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[&quot;What is it about these people?&quot;]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>"What is it about these people?" </p><p>A thread on abused women, autistic people... and a question asked backwards.</p><p>Researchers have spent a great deal of time trying to work out what kind of woman is especially likely to end up in abusive relationships. Which personality traits make women susceptible.</p><p>They've also spent a huge amount of time (and money) pondering over what it is about autistic people that makes them not fit in with other people.</p><p>A thread 🧵</p><p><img src="https://forum.fedi.dk/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/2b07.png?v=7979fdcf9c7" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--arrow_down" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="⬇" alt="⬇" />️</p><p><a href="https://mas.to/tags/ActuallyAutistic" rel="tag">#<span>ActuallyAutistic</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/AutismResearch" rel="tag">#<span>AutismResearch</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Trauma" rel="tag">#<span>Trauma</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/DomesticAbuse" rel="tag">#<span>DomesticAbuse</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/VictimBlaming" rel="tag">#<span>VictimBlaming</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/CriticalPsychology" rel="tag">#<span>CriticalPsychology</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/SocialModelOfDisability" rel="tag">#<span>SocialModelOfDisability</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/DoubleEmpathy" rel="tag">#<span>DoubleEmpathy</span></a> </p><p>1/13</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/4d8a5cb3-f1c1-447b-aa32-e2b41ea740ed/what-is-it-about-these-people</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 14:26:18 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/4d8a5cb3-f1c1-447b-aa32-e2b41ea740ed.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:01:22 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to &quot;What is it about these people?&quot; on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 08:20:55 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="https://mas.to/@KatyElphinstone">@<span>KatyElphinstone</span></a></span></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116359016677972834/statuses/117291067319242242</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116359016677972834/statuses/117291067319242242</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[2ruth@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 08:20:55 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to &quot;What is it about these people?&quot; on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:22:20 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/kir%40mastodon.uno">@<span>Kir</span></a></span></p><p>It seems to often be rather colluding, doesn't it? Good to hear from you about this, as it confirms this feeling... And why I had such a terrible time when I misguidedly went on a podcast with two successful clinical psychologists!!</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/KatyElphinstone/statuses/117290836987912415</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/KatyElphinstone/statuses/117290836987912415</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[katyelphinstone@mas.to]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:22:20 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to &quot;What is it about these people?&quot; on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:11:59 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="https://mas.to/@KatyElphinstone">@<span>KatyElphinstone</span></a></span> <br />Thank you for sharing, this is absolutely correct.</p><p>Also, as someone with a degree clinical psychology, I just cannot trust ANY psychology study anymore. The level of superficiality is unbearable.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.uno/users/Kir/statuses/117290796275312809</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.uno/users/Kir/statuses/117290796275312809</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[kir@mastodon.uno]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:11:59 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to &quot;What is it about these people?&quot; on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:09:20 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I think we shouldn't be endlessly examining the victims of injustice and violence like this, to find "what's wrong" with them socially. </p><p>Instead, we should be listening to their accounts, picking them up and putting a plaster on their knee... and planning how to protect them in future.</p><p>And then (in our research etc.), we should be looking around and saying, with great compassion and curiosity, what the heck is going on here? And what can we do to really fix it?</p><p><img src="https://forum.fedi.dk/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f49c.png?v=7979fdcf9c7" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--purple_heart" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="💜" alt="💜" /></p><p>(End of thread)</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/KatyElphinstone/statuses/117290785883657078</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/KatyElphinstone/statuses/117290785883657078</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[katyelphinstone@mas.to]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:09:20 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to &quot;What is it about these people?&quot; on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:09:03 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Autistic people, abused women, and people in other marginalised groups are like the canaries in the coal mine.</p><p>If the canary shows signs of distress in an environment, endlessly studying the canary will only tell you so much.</p><p>At some point, if you want a proper explanation, you have to study the air!</p><p>Perhaps it's toxic.  Violent. And abusive.</p><p><img src="https://forum.fedi.dk/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f424.png?v=7979fdcf9c7" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--baby_chick" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="🐤" alt="🐤" /><img src="https://forum.fedi.dk/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/2620.png?v=7979fdcf9c7" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--skull_and_crossbones" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="☠" alt="☠" />️</p><p>12/13</p><p><a href="https://mas.to/tags/SocialInjustice" rel="tag">#<span>SocialInjustice</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Inequality" rel="tag">#<span>Inequality</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Abuse" rel="tag">#<span>Abuse</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Competition" rel="tag">#<span>Competition</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Globalisation" rel="tag">#<span>Globalisation</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Capitalism" rel="tag">#<span>Capitalism</span></a></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/KatyElphinstone/statuses/117290784761074525</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/KatyElphinstone/statuses/117290784761074525</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[katyelphinstone@mas.to]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:09:03 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to &quot;What is it about these people?&quot; on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:08:49 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>When autistic people are disproportionately distressed, exhausted, isolated, unemployed, or traumatised, we study why they struggle socially, why they become overwhelmed... why they can’t cope in social settings.</p><p>Perhaps it's time to turn the telescope around?</p><p>Even if there will be complaints.</p><p><img src="https://forum.fedi.dk/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f52d.png?v=7979fdcf9c7" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--telescope" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="🔭" alt="🔭" /> <img src="https://forum.fedi.dk/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f504.png?v=7979fdcf9c7" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--arrows_counterclockwise" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="🔄" alt="🔄" /> </p><p>11/13</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/KatyElphinstone/statuses/117290783844721660</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/KatyElphinstone/statuses/117290783844721660</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[katyelphinstone@mas.to]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:08:49 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to &quot;What is it about these people?&quot; on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:08:29 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>They're accessible. It's easier. No one powerful complains.</p><p>We say an autistic child has “social difficulties” when they get bullied in the playground. </p><p>Without looking at the behaviour of the kids who are supposedly okay. The bullies. The bystanders.</p><p>It's the strangest thing ever. I've often found myself scratching my head over it, and why everyone acts like it makes sense.</p><p>10/13</p><p><a href="https://mas.to/tags/SchoolTrauma" rel="tag">#<span>SchoolTrauma</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Autism" rel="tag">#<span>Autism</span></a></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/KatyElphinstone/statuses/117290782522052462</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/KatyElphinstone/statuses/117290782522052462</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[katyelphinstone@mas.to]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:08:29 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to &quot;What is it about these people?&quot; on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:08:07 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>We’ve spent such an extraordinary amount of time studying autistic people: their brains, genes, behaviour, communication, social skills, sensory responses, mental health, relationships.</p><p>When a less powerful population is suffering at the hands of others, we look for the explanation inside that population.</p><p>🧐🧩 (Note: the puzzle piece is used ironically here)</p><p>9/13</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/KatyElphinstone/statuses/117290781077769860</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/KatyElphinstone/statuses/117290781077769860</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[katyelphinstone@mas.to]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:08:07 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to &quot;What is it about these people?&quot; on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:07:40 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>It's a bit like saying pacing back and forward within ten feet squared is a natural feature of a certain type of lioness, without taking into account the fact that she was kept in a cage that size for twenty years.</p><p><img src="https://forum.fedi.dk/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f43e.png?v=7979fdcf9c7" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--feet" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="🐾" alt="🐾" /> <img src="https://forum.fedi.dk/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f512.png?v=7979fdcf9c7" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--lock" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="🔒" alt="🔒" /> </p><p>So... what about autism? <img src="https://forum.fedi.dk/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/2b07.png?v=7979fdcf9c7" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--arrow_down" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="⬇" alt="⬇" />️ </p><p>8/13</p><p><a href="https://mas.to/tags/Autism" rel="tag">#<span>Autism</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Neurodiversity" rel="tag">#<span>Neurodiversity</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Neurodivergent" rel="tag">#<span>Neurodivergent</span></a></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/KatyElphinstone/statuses/117290779282838004</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/KatyElphinstone/statuses/117290779282838004</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[katyelphinstone@mas.to]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:07:40 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to &quot;What is it about these people?&quot; on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:07:10 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Something observed after years of fear, coercion, humiliation, or violence might be an adaptation to those circumstances. It might be an injury produced by them.</p><p>Yet it gets read backwards: this is what she's like, therefore it explains why this happened to her.</p><p>7/13</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/KatyElphinstone/statuses/117290777318123894</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/KatyElphinstone/statuses/117290777318123894</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[katyelphinstone@mas.to]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:07:10 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to &quot;What is it about these people?&quot; on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:06:35 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>When looking into cases of classic domestic abuse, the women were already living with, or had lived through, prolonged abuse.</p><p>So even where researchers identified psychological characteristics (anger, confusion, frigidity) they shouldn't have assumed those characteristics had been there beforehand.</p><p><img src="https://forum.fedi.dk/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f937.png?v=7979fdcf9c7" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--shrug" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="🤷" alt="🤷" /><img src="https://forum.fedi.dk/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f3fd.png?v=7979fdcf9c7" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--skin-tone-4" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="🏽" alt="🏽" />‍<img src="https://forum.fedi.dk/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/2640.png?v=7979fdcf9c7" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--female_sign" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="♀" alt="♀" />️</p><p>6/13</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/KatyElphinstone/statuses/117290775058420904</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/KatyElphinstone/statuses/117290775058420904</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[katyelphinstone@mas.to]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:06:35 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to &quot;What is it about these people?&quot; on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:05:59 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>There’s a fairly extraordinary methodological problem there.</p><p>The population whose behaviour you are trying to explain isn't in your research, and the population you can get access to becomes the place where you look for the cause.</p><p>But there’s another problem too...</p><p><img src="https://forum.fedi.dk/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/2b07.png?v=7979fdcf9c7" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--arrow_down" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="⬇" alt="⬇" />️ </p><p>5/13</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/KatyElphinstone/statuses/117290772694510072</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/KatyElphinstone/statuses/117290772694510072</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[katyelphinstone@mas.to]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:05:59 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to &quot;What is it about these people?&quot; on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:05:19 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Herman gives a striking example from a 1964 study. Researchers had intended to study the men doing the abuse. Only that the men wouldn’t talk to them.</p><p>But the battered women would.</p><p>So the researchers redirected their attention to the women and began examining their personalities instead, deciding that they were “aggressive”, “indecisive”, “passive”, or “frigid”.</p><p>After which, that can basically be given as the explanation for the violence.</p><p><img src="https://forum.fedi.dk/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f914.png?v=7979fdcf9c7" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--thinking_face" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="🤔" alt="🤔" /></p><p>4/13</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/KatyElphinstone/statuses/117290770067353558</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/KatyElphinstone/statuses/117290770067353558</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[katyelphinstone@mas.to]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:05:19 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to &quot;What is it about these people?&quot; on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:04:17 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Herman, in 'Trauma and Recovery', points out the rather fundamental problem.</p><p>The thing researchers were trying to explain in those studies into abused women was men’s violence. Yet they were looking for the explanation in the characteristics of the women the men are violent towards.</p><p>Men’s violence is men’s behaviour, and yet an enormous amount of effort has gone into trying to explain it by examining women.</p><p><img src="https://forum.fedi.dk/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/2640.png?v=7979fdcf9c7" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--female_sign" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="♀" alt="♀" />️<img src="https://forum.fedi.dk/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f440.png?v=7979fdcf9c7" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--eyes" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="👀" alt="👀" /></p><p>3/13</p><p><a href="https://mas.to/tags/Feminism" rel="tag">#<span>Feminism</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/EqualRights" rel="tag">#<span>EqualRights</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/SocialJustice" rel="tag">#<span>SocialJustice</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/GenderEquality" rel="tag">#<span>GenderEquality</span></a></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/KatyElphinstone/statuses/117290765992630370</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/KatyElphinstone/statuses/117290765992630370</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[katyelphinstone@mas.to]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:04:17 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to &quot;What is it about these people?&quot; on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:02:55 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>This is familiar to me. </p><p>Have you not also found yourself wondering what it is about autistic people? About yourself? </p><p>And about women who've ended up in abusive relationships? Or wondering what it is about yourself, if it's you who has? (Newsflash, however: in spite of persistent studying and expecting a conclusive result, researchers have been unable to find a consistent profile. They just can't find what exactly the “thing about” these women is.)</p><p><img src="https://forum.fedi.dk/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f4ab.png?v=7979fdcf9c7" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--dizzy" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="💫" alt="💫" /></p><p>2/13</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/KatyElphinstone/statuses/117290760663169340</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/KatyElphinstone/statuses/117290760663169340</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[katyelphinstone@mas.to]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:02:55 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>