<![CDATA[No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.]]>No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/500ca9b5-b6be-4e92-9671-7a29f26fa243/no-in-case-you-wonder-we-haven-t-changed-our-minds.RSS for NodeWed, 03 Jun 2026 02:38:48 GMTSat, 30 May 2026 21:53:24 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds. on Mon, 01 Jun 2026 11:24:49 GMT]]>@SuperDicq @Vivaldi Just the source code wouldn't do - it'd need to be the source code, validly licensed under a free license.]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://freesoftwareextremist.com/objects/6340b01b-63f4-461b-94ec-cadd3316caeahttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://freesoftwareextremist.com/objects/6340b01b-63f4-461b-94ec-cadd3316caeaMon, 01 Jun 2026 11:24:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds. on Mon, 01 Jun 2026 09:41:35 GMT]]>@nuintari @Vivaldi yep, definitely.

And #Alpine/musl for that matter

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://notnull.space/users/paul/statuses/01KT18YRWKBHWDM5PZ5RRASEVVhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://notnull.space/users/paul/statuses/01KT18YRWKBHWDM5PZ5RRASEVVMon, 01 Jun 2026 09:41:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds. on Mon, 01 Jun 2026 09:34:49 GMT]]>@paul @catsalad @Vivaldi if only vivaldi was a firefox fork instead of chromium

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fux.am/users/amlor/statuses/01KT18JCF495DWQP959DCQCWCDhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fux.am/users/amlor/statuses/01KT18JCF495DWQP959DCQCWCDMon, 01 Jun 2026 09:34:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds. on Mon, 01 Jun 2026 09:31:21 GMT]]>@catsalad @Vivaldi if it had a cat ear logo and container tabs and I could totally use Vivaldi again

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://notnull.space/users/paul/statuses/01KT18C1C8JEBEP8B32MVEJGPQhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://notnull.space/users/paul/statuses/01KT18C1C8JEBEP8B32MVEJGPQMon, 01 Jun 2026 09:31:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds. on Mon, 01 Jun 2026 08:51:13 GMT]]>@deutrino could you explain further on how you'd like your address bar to behave?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.vivaldi.net/users/Vivaldi/statuses/116673994660726271https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.vivaldi.net/users/Vivaldi/statuses/116673994660726271Mon, 01 Jun 2026 08:51:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds. on Mon, 01 Jun 2026 08:47:34 GMT]]>@MikeyMcFilms we won't tell your friends 😅

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.vivaldi.net/users/Vivaldi/statuses/116673980269749156https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.vivaldi.net/users/Vivaldi/statuses/116673980269749156Mon, 01 Jun 2026 08:47:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds. on Mon, 01 Jun 2026 08:40:02 GMT]]>@catsalad I'm not mad about this customization 🐱

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.vivaldi.net/users/Vivaldi/statuses/116673950696120406https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.vivaldi.net/users/Vivaldi/statuses/116673950696120406Mon, 01 Jun 2026 08:40:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds. on Mon, 01 Jun 2026 08:39:07 GMT]]>@gudenau it's not Chrome, it's Chromium, and there's huge differences

https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-different-from-chrome/

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.vivaldi.net/users/Vivaldi/statuses/116673947043257461https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.vivaldi.net/users/Vivaldi/statuses/116673947043257461Mon, 01 Jun 2026 08:39:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds. on Mon, 01 Jun 2026 08:38:14 GMT]]>@wafflesies @benroyce and you don't have to, but it would also be good not to spread misinformation around. We make no money whatsoever off Google, and we never have.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.vivaldi.net/users/Vivaldi/statuses/116673943632099908https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.vivaldi.net/users/Vivaldi/statuses/116673943632099908Mon, 01 Jun 2026 08:38:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds. on Mon, 01 Jun 2026 00:06:38 GMT]]>@bms48 @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi tbh I'd say let whoever do whatever makes them happy/feeling useful/whatever else

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116111665409381481/statuses/116671931885480335https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116111665409381481/statuses/116671931885480335Mon, 01 Jun 2026 00:06:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds. on Mon, 01 Jun 2026 00:05:42 GMT]]>@petrichaos @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi I suppose the same ethical-moral non-dilemma does not recur for genuine psychopaths, e.g. a human with a propensity for killing people and enjoying it, and then doing it for money. But if I know why the "AI" is broken and can express that rationally, instead of believing in AGI/ASI fairy stories, what then? I am absolutely disgusted by what this whole thing has visited upon the world. Trying to destroy professions with highly specious arguments? aargh

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116175731239673526/statuses/116671928260872026https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116175731239673526/statuses/116671928260872026Mon, 01 Jun 2026 00:05:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds. on Mon, 01 Jun 2026 00:02:17 GMT]]>@petrichaos @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi Absolutely. It does not resemble the "AGI" that Clammy and Dario like to shine the media on about, which is pathetic. When one knows how the sausage is made...If I had a really cynical view of humanity, if I really didn't value people or even my own skills I'd just "Pivot to AI", do deep learning for money, I have the aptitude not inclination. I specialized in networking early on, did time at ICSI in Berkeley for it. Why screw myself over for money?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116175731239673526/statuses/116671914801089164https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116175731239673526/statuses/116671914801089164Mon, 01 Jun 2026 00:02:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds. on Sun, 31 May 2026 23:59:26 GMT]]>@bms48 @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi some AV providers already using LLMs fot the mentioned usecase for a while now, same applies for pentest, redteaming, etc etc.
While it's useful, that's imo more pattern recognition rather than intelligence in pure sens of the word.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116111665409381481/statuses/116671903621943028https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116111665409381481/statuses/116671903621943028Sun, 31 May 2026 23:59:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds. on Sun, 31 May 2026 23:33:32 GMT]]>@petrichaos @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi Oh god you had to post a link with the "growth mindset" "business idiot" no1. ICkick I really did not need to see that... It does come down to slop vs token cost. Every crank of the one-eyed bandit gives you a hit. Even stochastic parrots occasionally hit gold. Its like holding UK premium bonds; stochastic investment. The brute force approach makes far more sense for offensive cybersecurity, but threat detection with patterns vs heuristics can scale.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116175731239673526/statuses/116671801783491097https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116175731239673526/statuses/116671801783491097Sun, 31 May 2026 23:33:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds. on Sun, 31 May 2026 23:26:33 GMT]]>@petrichaos @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi Thing is, LLMs are really really good at exploit writing to trigger CVEs in cybersecurity. That's the brute force search space exploration approach right there; Takanen et al covers the what and why of fuzzing, but not the how of what orgs like AISLE are doing. But it's very compute expensive and they still rely on breadth first search strategies optimized for deductive "inference" where that word is used with a very specific ML context.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116175731239673526/statuses/116671774279032123https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116175731239673526/statuses/116671774279032123Sun, 31 May 2026 23:26:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds. on Sun, 31 May 2026 23:26:01 GMT]]>@petrichaos @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi It should go without saying that token economics will directly influence the outcome of what is essentially now a cybersecurity arms race. Both state and non state actors have keen interest in this. Genie cannot be put back in the bottle. Whether the effort to sloppify across the board were to succeed or not, there will still be the Gatling Gun of Exploitation -- for a price. I wonder what Dan Geer thinks of this, after "Cybersecurity as Realpolitik".

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116175731239673526/statuses/116671772193072469https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116175731239673526/statuses/116671772193072469Sun, 31 May 2026 23:26:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds. on Sun, 31 May 2026 23:24:17 GMT]]>@petrichaos @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi So the weaponization of the LLM as a geared DNN is very real and with us. They might not do so on particular use of human language. Chomsky pointed out that they fall down as they can't differentiate impossible languages; those humans would not acquire or understand ever, but this does not hold for opcode streams intended purely to bring software to its knees. There are defensive counters. I am actively researching specific applications of such.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116175731239673526/statuses/116671765382305215https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116175731239673526/statuses/116671765382305215Sun, 31 May 2026 23:24:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds. on Sun, 31 May 2026 23:17:06 GMT]]>@benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi just ignore lol
The most pathetic are the ones requiring finished product but wouldn't contribute. "I'm not a coder" is not an excuse: join beta programs, support alpha builds, etc etc
Anyways..

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116111665409381481/statuses/116671737152445608https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116111665409381481/statuses/116671737152445608Sun, 31 May 2026 23:17:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds. on Sun, 31 May 2026 23:13:59 GMT]]>@bms48 @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi Off thread topic, but referencing the above link, I agree on most points ; notably the not-really intelligent AI - LLM is explicit imo: advanced code that can easily eat LARGE inputs then puke less output while requiring massive compute capacity
The more you scale, the less LLMs are relevant. Exponentialy inflating token consumption as context grows:
https://thenextweb.com/news/microsoft-claude-code-retreat-ai-cost

But yeah one day, it would be faithful to the "AI" terminology

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116111665409381481/statuses/116671724848235964https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116111665409381481/statuses/116671724848235964Sun, 31 May 2026 23:13:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds. on Sun, 31 May 2026 22:25:25 GMT]]>@Vivaldi 🍻

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sfba.social/users/HumToTable/statuses/116671533878538401https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sfba.social/users/HumToTable/statuses/116671533878538401Sun, 31 May 2026 22:25:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds. on Sun, 31 May 2026 20:37:52 GMT]]>@bms48 @Vivaldi @Zitron yes I haven't used it for years but as an educator we're still catching up with supporting students around the AI summary and the recently announced change has huge ramifications for school students and everyday people who need more support and awareness if they're going to change browser.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://theforkiverse.com/ap/users/116072724227781013/statuses/116671110989872241https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://theforkiverse.com/ap/users/116072724227781013/statuses/116671110989872241Sun, 31 May 2026 20:37:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds. on Sun, 31 May 2026 18:46:59 GMT]]>@jgg

My early understanding was also Google, but that my IP is not revealed to them. Not sure what engine they use now, I could not find out via the Privacy link at the bottom of their home page. Using their "Anonymous View" link in search results is supposed to be fully private.

Anyway, by using Firefox, Startpage, uBlock Origin, Privacy badger, and the included Startpage Privacy Protection, I very, very rarely see any ads.
The "About" link in the home page hamburger also has good info.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/JamesNielsen/statuses/116670675020786729https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/JamesNielsen/statuses/116670675020786729Sun, 31 May 2026 18:46:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds. on Sun, 31 May 2026 17:48:26 GMT]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hub.azkware.net/objects/6e2ecb8d-116a-1c74-6a16-486652879443https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hub.azkware.net/objects/6e2ecb8d-116a-1c74-6a16-486652879443Sun, 31 May 2026 17:48:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds. on Sun, 31 May 2026 17:22:20 GMT]]>@jgg @IntangibleSloth @Vivaldi THIS.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/Ra/statuses/116670342154832861https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/Ra/statuses/116670342154832861Sun, 31 May 2026 17:22:20 GMT