<![CDATA[Two pieces of computing history just met.]]>Two pieces of computing history just met.

Commodore is returning to phones, and it chose Jolla's Sailfish OS to do it. The Commodore Callback 8020 is a flip phone built for stepping away from the feed: privacy designed in, your data kept yours.

Read more: https://commodore.net/callback/

Press release (in Finnish 🇫🇮😞 https://www.sttinfo.fi/tiedote/72141458/commodore-julkistaa-puhelimen-johon-se-valitsi-jollan-eurooppalaisen-kayttojarjestelman?publisherId=69817166&lang=fi

Press release (in English 🇬🇧😞 https://jolla.com/content/uploads/2026/06/Commodore-press.pdf?x62051

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/5269e811-eeae-42ea-8f49-f0cd9d15dbf9/two-pieces-of-computing-history-just-met.RSS for NodeFri, 17 Jul 2026 23:11:58 GMTTue, 16 Jun 2026 11:34:42 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Two pieces of computing history just met. on Fri, 10 Jul 2026 10:09:41 GMT]]>@jolla The fact that there's a Meta app on the screen in all the promotional photos makes the privacy wanking look very dishonest.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://beige.party/users/woe2you/statuses/116895133322479544https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://beige.party/users/woe2you/statuses/116895133322479544Fri, 10 Jul 2026 10:09:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Two pieces of computing history just met. on Fri, 26 Jun 2026 06:54:03 GMT]]>@Antti98 thank you very much! Again, I don't have the device yet, but I will try to make it work. And even if it doesn't, I will have my Italian digital wallet soon and hopefully that will allow me to login to the EU candidate portal too.

@jolla

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://ohai.social/users/s1m0n4/statuses/116815091704124550https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://ohai.social/users/s1m0n4/statuses/116815091704124550Fri, 26 Jun 2026 06:54:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Two pieces of computing history just met. on Fri, 26 Jun 2026 06:48:42 GMT]]>@BartS this is very helpful, thank you!

@marting

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://ohai.social/users/s1m0n4/statuses/116815070631132604https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://ohai.social/users/s1m0n4/statuses/116815070631132604Fri, 26 Jun 2026 06:48:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Two pieces of computing history just met. on Fri, 26 Jun 2026 06:12:04 GMT]]>@s1m0n4 @jolla so I quickly tried to install it and it launches. But then it complains about missing security pin for Android side. There is workaround in the forum, but unfortunately I don't have time currently to try it out... so this one might be the one which can be used with additional tricks or in worst case no-go 😕

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Antti98/statuses/116814926581447770https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Antti98/statuses/116814926581447770Fri, 26 Jun 2026 06:12:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Two pieces of computing history just met. on Thu, 25 Jun 2026 22:43:13 GMT]]>@s1m0n4 @marting I am daily driving a Sony Xperia XA2 with Sailfish OS 5.0. All Fdroid apps work, and also most apps from google play (through Aurora Store). The ones that do not work are those heavily reliant on google play service (Strava being the only one I miss). I used to have a Lineage OS phone with the same 'problem'.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://toot.community/users/BartS/statuses/116813161628798552https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://toot.community/users/BartS/statuses/116813161628798552Thu, 25 Jun 2026 22:43:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Two pieces of computing history just met. on Thu, 25 Jun 2026 06:15:29 GMT]]>@Antti98
It's an app allowing to log in the EU candidate portal to postulate for EU competitions (to be hired at the EU Commission) and take the exams.
The exam should happen in autumn.
Worst case, I may be able to configure a different way of log in. I think.

Anyway thank you again! I will post in the forum if issues arise.

@jolla

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://ohai.social/users/s1m0n4/statuses/116809277710000254https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://ohai.social/users/s1m0n4/statuses/116809277710000254Thu, 25 Jun 2026 06:15:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Two pieces of computing history just met. on Thu, 25 Jun 2026 06:00:04 GMT]]>@s1m0n4 @jolla I haven't heard about that one before and it seems that nobody has yet reported it to the sailfishos.app/ site either. I'm quite swamped so can't promise full test soon, but I try to remember try if it launches without problem. You can try to ask forum.sailfishos.org if anybody has tried.

Is that like EU level ID card?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Antti98/statuses/116809217117077339https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Antti98/statuses/116809217117077339Thu, 25 Jun 2026 06:00:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Two pieces of computing history just met. on Thu, 25 Jun 2026 03:59:47 GMT]]>s1m0n4 apps that need direct access to stuff like bluetooth (except of headsets) and nfc are not working.]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/item/1c615cd9-356e-4dcc-ae2f-947a185ee305https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/item/1c615cd9-356e-4dcc-ae2f-947a185ee305Thu, 25 Jun 2026 03:59:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Two pieces of computing history just met. on Wed, 24 Jun 2026 19:16:47 GMT]]>@Antti98 thank you 🙏!

I will definitely take advantage of your knowledge and seek your guidance once I am in possession of my Jolla phone.

By chance do you know if the EU login app might work?
https://trusted-digital-identity.europa.eu/creating-managing-and-using-your-eu-login-account/eu-login-mobile-application/eu-login-mobile-app-installation_en

@jolla

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://ohai.social/users/s1m0n4/statuses/116806687645240531https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://ohai.social/users/s1m0n4/statuses/116806687645240531Wed, 24 Jun 2026 19:16:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Two pieces of computing history just met. on Wed, 24 Jun 2026 19:10:29 GMT]]>@marting I had a Jolla phone 10 years ago. Back then we didn't have F-droid apps store. It was nowhere near 99%. I recall this number closer to 5%.
Supporting all F-droid apps would be already enough for me, I suppose.
However Commodore 64 is claiming 99% and I want to understand what are the grounds for such claim.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://ohai.social/users/s1m0n4/statuses/116806662864273298https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://ohai.social/users/s1m0n4/statuses/116806662864273298Wed, 24 Jun 2026 19:10:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Two pieces of computing history just met. on Wed, 24 Jun 2026 19:02:49 GMT]]>@s1m0n4 @jolla It is pretty true statement for those phones that are supported by Jolla. Community ports don't have Android App Support (=AAS). 99% can be true as there are so many Android apps, but in my experience around 90% works out of the box or with minimal tricks. 95-98% of apps might start to work with tricks or with limited features. Bank and or governmental apps are the worst ones and usually hit or miss. I have 5 working bank/finance apps tho. Ask me anything you want

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Antti98/statuses/116806632732368668https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Antti98/statuses/116806632732368668Wed, 24 Jun 2026 19:02:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Two pieces of computing history just met. on Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:54:16 GMT]]>s1m0n4 @jolla 3rd-party Sailfish OS devices don't have Google Play services or the Google Play Store; not sure about the new Jolla. This means that non-free, proprietary, closed-source apps can't even be installed unless you jump through hoops and set up microG. Even then, if the app itself depends on the Google Play services, it won't run.

Out of the box, the only Android apps you can get are those on F-Droid. On the other hand, Google can't take F-Droid away from Sailfish OS.

#Android #Android Apps #F-Droid #Alien Dalvik #Jolla #Sailfish OS]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hub.hubzilla.de/item/968a881e-0e64-48be-b302-9de63f8a1888https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hub.hubzilla.de/item/968a881e-0e64-48be-b302-9de63f8a1888Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:54:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Two pieces of computing history just met. on Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:02:58 GMT]]>@jolla when they say "99% of Android apps will run, not on Android", is that generally true statement for all Sailfish OS devices?
Has the compatibility layer truly become so powerful?
I am waiting for my Jolla phone (batch 3) and I am ready to compromise on apps, but if true, it would be great, because I won't need to compromise so much after all.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://ohai.social/users/s1m0n4/statuses/116806397377561581https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://ohai.social/users/s1m0n4/statuses/116806397377561581Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:02:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Two pieces of computing history just met. on Wed, 24 Jun 2026 17:45:57 GMT]]>@jolla

Looks dope.

But i spy with m little eye...pre- installed Meta crap? How does that fit the security concept.

But otherwise... I am intruiged

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://literatur.social/users/v_d_richards/statuses/116806330477409713https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://literatur.social/users/v_d_richards/statuses/116806330477409713Wed, 24 Jun 2026 17:45:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Two pieces of computing history just met. on Wed, 24 Jun 2026 17:02:14 GMT]]>@jolla ia this a joke? If not you just made quite some tech nerds wet

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/grayrattus/statuses/116806158565851395https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/grayrattus/statuses/116806158565851395Wed, 24 Jun 2026 17:02:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Two pieces of computing history just met. on Sat, 20 Jun 2026 13:17:03 GMT]]>@proprietedusage @jolla expAnsive or expEnsive?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/D4lt0n/statuses/116782623836770585https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/D4lt0n/statuses/116782623836770585Sat, 20 Jun 2026 13:17:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Two pieces of computing history just met. on Fri, 19 Jun 2026 18:49:13 GMT]]>@jolla I'm trying to be positive about it but saying privacy was designed in while also preinstalling WhatsApp suggests you don't really understand privacy.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/kerfuffle/statuses/116778267643337606https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/kerfuffle/statuses/116778267643337606Fri, 19 Jun 2026 18:49:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Two pieces of computing history just met. on Wed, 17 Jun 2026 04:37:51 GMT]]>@jolla I tipped GsmArena for this and they gave it some coverge, in their usual half-nonchalant way... https://m.gsmarena.com/commodore_announces_callback_8020_the_mobile_phone_between_dumb_and_smart-news-73304.php

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://c.im/users/member/statuses/116763595339276337https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://c.im/users/member/statuses/116763595339276337Wed, 17 Jun 2026 04:37:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Two pieces of computing history just met. on Tue, 16 Jun 2026 22:41:43 GMT]]>@jolla I hope you retained control of OS updates. KaiOS made that mistake. Among others. Their non inconsiderable number of devices slid into obscurity also because carriers refused to update the bug ridden, security compromised KaiOS 2 and 3.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/WuMing2/statuses/116762194983947926https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/WuMing2/statuses/116762194983947926Tue, 16 Jun 2026 22:41:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Two pieces of computing history just met. on Tue, 16 Jun 2026 20:19:27 GMT]]>@jolla Not sure I like their marketing, but I like light phones. Any idea how much is this supposed to weight? (And is it real? I have not seen antennas on cellphones for a while...)]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.kernel.org/objects/a9c6b50f-b875-45a3-9e01-a50c30307e57https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.kernel.org/objects/a9c6b50f-b875-45a3-9e01-a50c30307e57Tue, 16 Jun 2026 20:19:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Two pieces of computing history just met. on Tue, 16 Jun 2026 17:53:25 GMT]]>@themipper @jolla im talking about the commodore phone.. , is suprising that some company make that devices, i know we can do it with the rasperry pi and other wireless circuit

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/CarlosARM/statuses/116761061358106743https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/CarlosARM/statuses/116761061358106743Tue, 16 Jun 2026 17:53:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Two pieces of computing history just met. on Tue, 16 Jun 2026 17:27:51 GMT]]>@AnimeAndVisial @jolla I was thinking the same thing about the "no email" thing, like, I can understand the need to disconnect from work, but email is not a big time consumer, least not for me. Flip side, if I do need to check an email (and people other than my work or advertisers do email me, my roommates frequently send me emails), that means I'll have to get back home to my computer

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://todon.eu/users/Thatonepersonwithaface/statuses/116760960779954247https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://todon.eu/users/Thatonepersonwithaface/statuses/116760960779954247Tue, 16 Jun 2026 17:27:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Two pieces of computing history just met. on Tue, 16 Jun 2026 17:23:40 GMT]]>@Knattodon very true. ☝️ I’m already moving from iOS to Sailfish with Jolla’s new phone. I was just surprised that a clam phone would cost almost 500€. But, the times we live in, right?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodontti.fi/users/raketti/statuses/116760944355988960https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodontti.fi/users/raketti/statuses/116760944355988960Tue, 16 Jun 2026 17:23:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Two pieces of computing history just met. on Tue, 16 Jun 2026 17:12:04 GMT]]>@raketti If you don't have a big data pool to sell for advertisement (respecting privacy), you need to get paid for your product itself.

It's up to you, what you're willing to pay with: Money or personal data.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://nerdculture.de/ap/users/115904196994698502/statuses/116760899030813951https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://nerdculture.de/ap/users/115904196994698502/statuses/116760899030813951Tue, 16 Jun 2026 17:12:04 GMT