<![CDATA[Signal without smartphone]]>Signal without smartphone

A Desktop application to register an account with Signal and link it with Signal Desktop, all without requiring a smartphone.

https://github.com/almet/signal-without-smartphone

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/5e0bac13-ae3d-4f7a-9649-0bdca834420b/signal-without-smartphoneRSS for NodeSun, 31 May 2026 04:12:57 GMTFri, 29 May 2026 09:02:22 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Signal without smartphone on Fri, 29 May 2026 20:59:09 GMT]]>@almet still requires a phone number, the single most insecure fucking thing that refuses to die and nobody fights hard enough against.

Edit: I would rather use DeltaChat|ArcaneChat or other stuff made by myself or some random guy than anything that requires a phone number

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.furrow.me/ap/users/115923467670715698/statuses/116659870065408863https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.furrow.me/ap/users/115923467670715698/statuses/116659870065408863Fri, 29 May 2026 20:59:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Signal without smartphone on Fri, 29 May 2026 15:54:18 GMT]]>@almet
I guess let's wait until Signal dev complains that this unofficial app uses their servers, same as LibreSignal

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://gts.dc09.xyz/users/darkcat09/statuses/01KST7328B0PBH6J8AN356SZ7Phttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://gts.dc09.xyz/users/darkcat09/statuses/01KST7328B0PBH6J8AN356SZ7PFri, 29 May 2026 15:54:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Signal without smartphone on Fri, 29 May 2026 14:31:15 GMT]]>@almet omg thank you!
Also cool for @postmarketOS@treehouse.systems @postmarketos@lemmy.ml @postmarketos@lemmy.world and @ubports

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://lsbt.me/ap/users/116489696996677507/statuses/116658344817001117https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://lsbt.me/ap/users/116489696996677507/statuses/116658344817001117Fri, 29 May 2026 14:31:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Signal without smartphone on Fri, 29 May 2026 14:03:05 GMT]]>@almet Backups locally, for privacy - especially facing the AI surge and inevitable hacking increase, following.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://c.im/users/numodular/statuses/116658234044783468https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://c.im/users/numodular/statuses/116658234044783468Fri, 29 May 2026 14:03:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Signal without smartphone on Fri, 29 May 2026 13:30:09 GMT]]>@almet

Signal lost me at "Enter your phone number".

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/Mannanan/statuses/116658104534174486https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/Mannanan/statuses/116658104534174486Fri, 29 May 2026 13:30:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Signal without smartphone on Fri, 29 May 2026 13:19:10 GMT]]>RE: https://mastodon.social/@aboutsignal/116657976632074570

@fla We do understand, but FYI, see the other update/commit here. The future will tell 🙂

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/aboutsignal/statuses/116658061353495988https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/aboutsignal/statuses/116658061353495988Fri, 29 May 2026 13:19:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Signal without smartphone on Fri, 29 May 2026 13:00:48 GMT]]>@almet @steko fyi https://mastodon.social/@aboutsignal/116657976632074570

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/aboutsignal/statuses/116657989141438370https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/aboutsignal/statuses/116657989141438370Fri, 29 May 2026 13:00:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Signal without smartphone on Fri, 29 May 2026 12:27:52 GMT]]>@almet how is this built?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/felipe/statuses/116657859626494911https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/felipe/statuses/116657859626494911Fri, 29 May 2026 12:27:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Signal without smartphone on Fri, 29 May 2026 12:13:10 GMT]]>@ShadowJonathan

So, it seems that Signal Desktop doesn't do backups. As its the primary intended linked device in my use cases, I don't think I should add support for it so far.

More details here: https://github.com/almet/signal-without-smartphone/issues/3#issuecomment-4574799677

Thanks for asking!

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tutut.delire.party/users/almet/statuses/116657801796593011https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tutut.delire.party/users/almet/statuses/116657801796593011Fri, 29 May 2026 12:13:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Signal without smartphone on Fri, 29 May 2026 10:55:30 GMT]]>@almet@tutut.delire.party agh that kinda sucks... still very cool, especially for dumbphone users who still wanna use Signal at home ​​

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://catboy.baby/notes/amude3i6ldhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://catboy.baby/notes/amude3i6ldFri, 29 May 2026 10:55:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Signal without smartphone on Fri, 29 May 2026 10:47:44 GMT]]>@almet
ben... si ! le symptôme que j'ai déjà constaté, c'est une désynchronisation du Signal Desktop environ 5 minutes après qu'il ait servi à envoyer un message (le signal-cli avait arrêté de receive parce qu'on avait raté une maj à faire pour supporter la dernière version du protocole)

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.opportunis.me/users/olasd/statuses/116657465854711771https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.opportunis.me/users/olasd/statuses/116657465854711771Fri, 29 May 2026 10:47:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Signal without smartphone on Fri, 29 May 2026 10:44:21 GMT]]>@ShadowJonathan https://github.com/almet/signal-without-smartphone/issues/3

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tutut.delire.party/users/almet/statuses/116657452553370297https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tutut.delire.party/users/almet/statuses/116657452553370297Fri, 29 May 2026 10:44:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Signal without smartphone on Fri, 29 May 2026 10:43:50 GMT]]>@cody yes, you still need one.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tutut.delire.party/users/almet/statuses/116657450540002443https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tutut.delire.party/users/almet/statuses/116657450540002443Fri, 29 May 2026 10:43:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Signal without smartphone on Fri, 29 May 2026 10:43:01 GMT]]>@almet@tutut.delire.party Does this require a phone number though? ​​

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://catboy.baby/notes/amucy21al8https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://catboy.baby/notes/amucy21al8Fri, 29 May 2026 10:43:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Signal without smartphone on Fri, 29 May 2026 10:42:36 GMT]]>@ShadowJonathan I never tried to use backups, so… I don't know! I'm creating an issue to remember this and do some research

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tutut.delire.party/users/almet/statuses/116657445677936084https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tutut.delire.party/users/almet/statuses/116657445677936084Fri, 29 May 2026 10:42:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Signal without smartphone on Fri, 29 May 2026 10:39:27 GMT]]>@almet does this tool store data that's critical to recovering stuff like backups?

i dont see an option to backup from the signal desktop app

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tech.lgbt/users/ShadowJonathan/statuses/116657433338403583https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tech.lgbt/users/ShadowJonathan/statuses/116657433338403583Fri, 29 May 2026 10:39:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Signal without smartphone on Fri, 29 May 2026 10:24:54 GMT]]>@olasd Ah, mais le compte secondaire, dans ce que j'imagine, c'est ton signal desktop, et du coup, s'il reste utilisé il se désynchronise pas.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tutut.delire.party/users/almet/statuses/116657376067927894https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tutut.delire.party/users/almet/statuses/116657376067927894Fri, 29 May 2026 10:24:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Signal without smartphone on Fri, 29 May 2026 09:41:50 GMT]]>@almet (mais du coup j'essaie de garder ton outil en tĂŞte pour voir quand tu auras quelques mois de recul, parce que l'UX de signal-cli, comment dire... :D)

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.opportunis.me/users/olasd/statuses/116657206750105084https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.opportunis.me/users/olasd/statuses/116657206750105084Fri, 29 May 2026 09:41:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Signal without smartphone on Fri, 29 May 2026 09:36:01 GMT]]>@almet alors je peux t'assurer que le compte secondaire va finir par se désynchro (dans quelques semaines ? quelques mois ? à la prochaine mise à jour du protocole ?), c'est en tout cas ce que j'ai pu constater quand le signal-cli receive arrête de marcher

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.opportunis.me/users/olasd/statuses/116657183900298093https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.opportunis.me/users/olasd/statuses/116657183900298093Fri, 29 May 2026 09:36:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Signal without smartphone on Fri, 29 May 2026 09:18:13 GMT]]>@steko @almet Probably not, the guy who saw the commit didn't really understand what this was about.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/fla/statuses/116657113885914637https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/fla/statuses/116657113885914637Fri, 29 May 2026 09:18:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Signal without smartphone on Fri, 29 May 2026 09:17:57 GMT]]>@steko Yep, I've seen these claims, and I would like them to be true but… I see no evidence that goes this way, unfortunately, see my message to them here: https://tutut.delire.party/@almet/116557240946918234

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tutut.delire.party/users/almet/statuses/116657112828138700https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tutut.delire.party/users/almet/statuses/116657112828138700Fri, 29 May 2026 09:17:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Signal without smartphone on Fri, 29 May 2026 09:16:53 GMT]]>@olasd

C'est pas quelque chose que j'ai vu de mon côté, en pratique, et quand un compte secondaire récupère les données; mais je manque de recul sur l'outil qui est encore jeune.

Du coup, actuellement :

- Pas de `receive` qui se fait depuis le compte principal ;
- Le cas où tu te fait "desync" est prévu, mais plutôt pour pouvoir resync avec les mêmes clés.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tutut.delire.party/users/almet/statuses/116657108627212235https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tutut.delire.party/users/almet/statuses/116657108627212235Fri, 29 May 2026 09:16:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Signal without smartphone on Fri, 29 May 2026 09:12:19 GMT]]>@almet apparently there is an effort to have this feature in the official app https://aboutsignal.com/news/signal-desktop-without-a-mobile-phone-standalone-version-in-development/

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://scholar.social/users/steko/statuses/116657090698621637https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://scholar.social/users/steko/statuses/116657090698621637Fri, 29 May 2026 09:12:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Signal without smartphone on Fri, 29 May 2026 09:08:31 GMT]]>@almet ah super !

Du coup je suis curieux, comment ça maintient la connexion "primaire" au compte Signal ? Dans le use-case de signal-cli, il faut que le signal-cli soit paramétré pour faire un `receive` régulièrement, parce qu'il y a des évènements qui ne sont pas envoyés directement aux devices secondaires (genre, si j'ai bien compris, les MAJ de groupe et d'expiration de messages) ?

[edit] cf. le "hint" en bas du paragraphe usage du readme https://github.com/AsamK/signal-cli

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.opportunis.me/users/olasd/statuses/116657075759004134https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.opportunis.me/users/olasd/statuses/116657075759004134Fri, 29 May 2026 09:08:31 GMT