<![CDATA[🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨]]>🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨

New ESO study finds that current proposals to launch 1.7+ million satellites into orbit would have devastating consequences for astronomy.

The most extreme proposals come from SpaceX & Reflect Orbital

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📷 F. Kamphues, ESO/M. Kornmesser

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/672ef7e9-fdf7-47a1-8435-d92f4b676f56/beyond-the-limitRSS for NodeSun, 05 Jul 2026 07:35:01 GMTWed, 01 Jul 2026 12:02:36 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to 🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨 on Thu, 02 Jul 2026 03:49:47 GMT]]>@esoastronomy We are in the worst timeline! This is terrifying.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://expressional.social/users/tanyakaroli/statuses/116848341001990622https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://expressional.social/users/tanyakaroli/statuses/116848341001990622Thu, 02 Jul 2026 03:49:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨 on Thu, 02 Jul 2026 01:50:30 GMT]]>@esoastronomy Wow, that looks like a lens that's all scratched up, but it's the sky.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://indieweb.social/users/CassandraVert/statuses/116847871938139554https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://indieweb.social/users/CassandraVert/statuses/116847871938139554Thu, 02 Jul 2026 01:50:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨 on Thu, 02 Jul 2026 00:08:34 GMT]]>@esoastronomy don't worry, 80k and beyond they'll be stopped by Kessler syndrome very quickly.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/deepfryed/statuses/116847471148768367https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/deepfryed/statuses/116847471148768367Thu, 02 Jul 2026 00:08:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨 on Wed, 01 Jul 2026 22:38:46 GMT]]>@esoastronomy

my eyes can't handle that moving and flashing in the night sky!

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.world/users/TrueNorthSpice/statuses/116847118017751664https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.world/users/TrueNorthSpice/statuses/116847118017751664Wed, 01 Jul 2026 22:38:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨 on Wed, 01 Jul 2026 22:15:00 GMT]]>@esoastronomy Why would anyone want sunlight at night?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/lydialurch/statuses/116847024595235163https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/lydialurch/statuses/116847024595235163Wed, 01 Jul 2026 22:15:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨 on Wed, 01 Jul 2026 22:10:02 GMT]]>@esoastronomy Seems like it would be a lot cheaper for the government to force investment in rural fiber...

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://discuss.systems/users/RustedComputing/statuses/116847005019546957https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://discuss.systems/users/RustedComputing/statuses/116847005019546957Wed, 01 Jul 2026 22:10:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨 on Wed, 01 Jul 2026 22:09:09 GMT]]>@connynasch @gunstick @esoastronomy I think Elon Musk is a threat to Humanity. I hope he gets stopped before all these madness gets real.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://expressional.social/users/disisdeguey/statuses/116847001591974360https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://expressional.social/users/disisdeguey/statuses/116847001591974360Wed, 01 Jul 2026 22:09:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨 on Wed, 01 Jul 2026 22:05:23 GMT]]>@esoastronomy We don't know who struck first, us or them. But we do know it was us that scorched the sky

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/mimblewimble/statuses/116846986788417507https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/mimblewimble/statuses/116846986788417507Wed, 01 Jul 2026 22:05:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨 on Wed, 01 Jul 2026 21:38:07 GMT]]>@esoastronomy

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Incognitim/statuses/116846879525723396https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Incognitim/statuses/116846879525723396Wed, 01 Jul 2026 21:38:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨 on Wed, 01 Jul 2026 21:36:16 GMT]]>@esoastronomy would it be possible to use this image in a talk, with appropriate credit?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://8bitorbust.info/users/dtl/statuses/116846872272719099https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://8bitorbust.info/users/dtl/statuses/116846872272719099Wed, 01 Jul 2026 21:36:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨 on Wed, 01 Jul 2026 21:17:40 GMT]]>@esoastronomy I'm not surprised at all, great job!

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://kirche.social/users/Numerfolt/statuses/116846799106061345https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://kirche.social/users/Numerfolt/statuses/116846799106061345Wed, 01 Jul 2026 21:17:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨 on Wed, 01 Jul 2026 20:50:53 GMT]]>@esoastronomy
Why does the FCC have authority over the space above Europe?

They already allowed a US satellite company hogging european HAM radio frequencies even when in radio range of europe.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://chaos.social/users/vampirdaddy/statuses/116846693826956070https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://chaos.social/users/vampirdaddy/statuses/116846693826956070Wed, 01 Jul 2026 20:50:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨 on Wed, 01 Jul 2026 20:18:09 GMT]]>@Huntn00 @esoastronomy

Necro-capitalism
Jim stewartson
Mind War

American Necrocracy: How the U.S. Government Became a Death Creator
The world needs a revolution of the living.

https://www.mind-war.com/p/american-necrocracy-how-the-us-government

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/Npars01/statuses/116846565087250220https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/Npars01/statuses/116846565087250220Wed, 01 Jul 2026 20:18:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨 on Wed, 01 Jul 2026 19:42:02 GMT]]>@esoastronomy someone has to tell him that it will stay dark under his bed.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://norden.social/ap/users/115868401827706293/statuses/116846423058133957https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://norden.social/ap/users/115868401827706293/statuses/116846423058133957Wed, 01 Jul 2026 19:42:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨 on Wed, 01 Jul 2026 19:27:22 GMT]]>@esoastronomy When they lose their orbit, they'll probably kill us all.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/MissSqueakyBrew/statuses/116846365385186791https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/MissSqueakyBrew/statuses/116846365385186791Wed, 01 Jul 2026 19:27:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨 on Wed, 01 Jul 2026 19:22:52 GMT]]>@esoastronomy This is disturbing to say the least. If there's truly no way to stop them from doing this, though, what if we just taxed the hell out of them and used that money to build a scientific outpost on the far side of the moon. That way they get their sky-destroying capitalist's wet dream, and we get a nifty new place to do science and, most of all, the sky would be clearer than on Earth.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://myside-yourside.net/users/StarkRG/statuses/116846347700299028https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://myside-yourside.net/users/StarkRG/statuses/116846347700299028Wed, 01 Jul 2026 19:22:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨 on Wed, 01 Jul 2026 17:14:23 GMT]]>@esoastronomy FCC should only be allowed to authorise geosynchronous orbit above USA. They have no right to pollute space above me or anyone else who doesn't live in the USA.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.scot/ap/users/116471652595525519/statuses/116845842509647992https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.scot/ap/users/116471652595525519/statuses/116845842509647992Wed, 01 Jul 2026 17:14:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨 on Wed, 01 Jul 2026 17:06:06 GMT]]>@esoastronomy That is literally selling stolen moonlight. That light those mirrors would collect belongs to all of humanity, not to some rocket bros with sonnengewher vibes.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116759738787690498/statuses/116845809932828071https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116759738787690498/statuses/116845809932828071Wed, 01 Jul 2026 17:06:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨 on Wed, 01 Jul 2026 16:56:59 GMT]]>@esoastronomy
"Firefly" intro: "Burn the land and boil the sea, You can't take the sky from me."

Oligarchs: "Hold my beer!"

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hostux.social/users/stephendedalus/statuses/116845774102365402https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hostux.social/users/stephendedalus/statuses/116845774102365402Wed, 01 Jul 2026 16:56:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨 on Wed, 01 Jul 2026 16:34:30 GMT]]>@failedLyndonLaRouchite@mas.to @esoastronomy@mastodon.social Reflect Orbital is worse than useless. It transmits a few percentage points of sunlight to a spot on the ground. This is intended as a means to make solar farms operate at night, but a satellite providing 5% of sunlight to a few square kilometers of solar power is going to be a lot more expensive than 5% more solar panels and increasingly cheap batteries (like iron flow batteries).

The orbiting datacenter plans are a way to get super expensive computers nominally beyond Earth jurisdiction, but maintaining an orbital datacenter is basically impossible and they can barely shed heat.

The satellite internet swarms are an alternative to previous generation internet satellites. Lots of close satellites to take the place of fewer, further ones.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://zoner.work/notes/ao5v164c57f80430https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://zoner.work/notes/ao5v164c57f80430Wed, 01 Jul 2026 16:34:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨 on Wed, 01 Jul 2026 16:24:38 GMT]]>@Jumpmed @esoastronomy
Also his friend that made him rich. Peter Thiel and totally evil Palintir.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.ie/users/raymaccarthy/statuses/116845646859790299https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.ie/users/raymaccarthy/statuses/116845646859790299Wed, 01 Jul 2026 16:24:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨 on Wed, 01 Jul 2026 16:24:22 GMT]]>@zero Yes, this is a very real image of the current situation with "just" 14 000 satellites. Imagine 100x more...

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/esoastronomy/statuses/116845645796424960https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/esoastronomy/statuses/116845645796424960Wed, 01 Jul 2026 16:24:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨 on Wed, 01 Jul 2026 16:23:05 GMT]]>@ramsey @sundogplanets The simulation was specifically done over the VLT, but a similar increase would be visible at other locations. Even if the mirrors aren't pointing directly at the observer, when seen sideways they would still be as luminous as a bright planet like Venus. With a swarm of these bright sources above you at any given time, the atmosphere would scatter their light around, leading to the overall increase in brightness you see here.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/esoastronomy/statuses/116845640759698832https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/esoastronomy/statuses/116845640759698832Wed, 01 Jul 2026 16:23:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨 on Wed, 01 Jul 2026 16:12:21 GMT]]>@spacerik Indeed, the effects of satellite constellations go beyond their impact on astronomy. The press release is an explainer of our new study, but in parallel we have also escalated up this issue to the policymaking level at an international scale. You can find more details about this in this accompanying video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJNwAKSL17s and this article: https://www.eso.org/public/blog/betty-kioko/

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/esoastronomy/statuses/116845598600670584https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/esoastronomy/statuses/116845598600670584Wed, 01 Jul 2026 16:12:21 GMT