<![CDATA[We're obsessed with the idea that poor people might take more than they need,]]>We're obsessed with the idea that poor people might take more than they need,

but we never question why rich people are never satisfied with what they already have.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/68cbfab7-f0a2-4cb7-be24-b9141f94865d/we-re-obsessed-with-the-idea-that-poor-people-might-take-more-than-they-needRSS for NodeMon, 22 Jun 2026 13:44:59 GMTMon, 08 Jun 2026 23:15:02 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to We're obsessed with the idea that poor people might take more than they need, on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 17:45:24 GMT]]>@JustinDerrick @WeirdWriter I've said it before and I'll say it again - I don't give a damn if people use UBI to sit and stare at the TV. They aren't starving, and they aren't getting in the way of anything else. Let em sit, it's fine.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/mhkohne/statuses/116732718222885769https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/mhkohne/statuses/116732718222885769Thu, 11 Jun 2026 17:45:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to We're obsessed with the idea that poor people might take more than they need, on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 17:40:23 GMT]]>@WeirdWriter

So true

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/si_irini/statuses/116732698520105562https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/si_irini/statuses/116732698520105562Thu, 11 Jun 2026 17:40:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to We're obsessed with the idea that poor people might take more than they need, on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 16:30:18 GMT]]>@FurryBeta @JustinDerrick @WeirdWriter

Often? No, it's ALWAYS cheaper. We spend what we do on cops and prisons BECAUSE we don't have UBI or secure housing and food.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/darwinwoodka/statuses/116732422919128060https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/darwinwoodka/statuses/116732422919128060Thu, 11 Jun 2026 16:30:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to We're obsessed with the idea that poor people might take more than they need, on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 16:29:06 GMT]]>@darwinwoodka @JustinDerrick @WeirdWriter I like how it’s often times cheaper to give the unhoused a place to live and food to eat as compared to the societal costs of emergency services and such, but we can’t do that “because they’re getting something for nothing”. Same attitude towards UBI

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://shark.community/users/FurryBeta/statuses/116732418202496956https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://shark.community/users/FurryBeta/statuses/116732418202496956Thu, 11 Jun 2026 16:29:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to We're obsessed with the idea that poor people might take more than they need, on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 16:21:56 GMT]]>@FurryBeta @JustinDerrick @WeirdWriter

I've sometimes had leftovers in my hand and offered them when people were panhandling and they were gratefully accepted. People aren't out begging because they like it, they're starving ffs.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/darwinwoodka/statuses/116732390017320145https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/darwinwoodka/statuses/116732390017320145Thu, 11 Jun 2026 16:21:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to We're obsessed with the idea that poor people might take more than they need, on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 16:19:01 GMT]]>@nini @WeirdWriter

Calvinism is a helluva drug

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/darwinwoodka/statuses/116732378602011453https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/darwinwoodka/statuses/116732378602011453Thu, 11 Jun 2026 16:19:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to We're obsessed with the idea that poor people might take more than they need, on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 16:03:27 GMT]]>@JustinDerrick @WeirdWriter I don't care if a LOT of people just get high and watch Netflix from UBI and there are no other impacts. That's an ok outcome actually.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/kevingranade/statuses/116732317359108714https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/kevingranade/statuses/116732317359108714Thu, 11 Jun 2026 16:03:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to We're obsessed with the idea that poor people might take more than they need, on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 15:29:40 GMT]]>@vfrmedia @DavidM_yeg @WeirdWriter @JustinDerrick Oh yuck. The “I got mine” crowd. Yeah, we have a lot of those here to

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://shark.community/users/FurryBeta/statuses/116732184520120656https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://shark.community/users/FurryBeta/statuses/116732184520120656Thu, 11 Jun 2026 15:29:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to We're obsessed with the idea that poor people might take more than they need, on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 15:25:24 GMT]]>@FurryBeta @DavidM_yeg @WeirdWriter @JustinDerrick

And yet he isn't now - so not even using his power to try and push back against prohibition, it seems so many others have caved in to the demands of puritanism, and the same is happening this side of the pond - there was once a time when Labour discussed decrim, now they constantly attack the Green Party for being "soft on drugs".

I also know a fuckton of former users (especially 40-50 somethings who used to be ravers who now support prohibition and vote for Reform (who also went from libertarian views on drugs to hardline prohibitionists)

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.tchncs.de/users/vfrmedia/statuses/116732167745583221https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.tchncs.de/users/vfrmedia/statuses/116732167745583221Thu, 11 Jun 2026 15:25:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to We're obsessed with the idea that poor people might take more than they need, on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 15:23:26 GMT]]>@melgu @WeirdWriter @JustinDerrick I have gotten a yes. But only twice. /shrug

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/ap/users/115708188881910739/statuses/116732160033123870https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/ap/users/115708188881910739/statuses/116732160033123870Thu, 11 Jun 2026 15:23:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to We're obsessed with the idea that poor people might take more than they need, on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 15:18:25 GMT]]>@vfrmedia @DavidM_yeg @WeirdWriter @JustinDerrick A certain soon to be trillionaire was loud and proud about it a few years ago

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://shark.community/users/FurryBeta/statuses/116732140296497267https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://shark.community/users/FurryBeta/statuses/116732140296497267Thu, 11 Jun 2026 15:18:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to We're obsessed with the idea that poor people might take more than they need, on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 15:16:22 GMT]]>@melgu

I agree that's it's always *those other people* they're worried about.

Also, yes, I would most definitely stop working if UBI existed and met my needs. I don't want to work on unnecessary look-updates, I don't want to go to meetings about the analytics from poorly-designed AB tests. I don't want to sit in traffic, and I miss the days when I could work outside my house and come home to be home.

@WeirdWriter @JustinDerrick

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.ie/users/ProcessParsnip/statuses/116732132253823688https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.ie/users/ProcessParsnip/statuses/116732132253823688Thu, 11 Jun 2026 15:16:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to We're obsessed with the idea that poor people might take more than they need, on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 15:16:17 GMT]]>@vfrmedia @JustinDerrick @WeirdWriter Hell, the only reason I didn’t was that I had regular and spot drug testing due to my job

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://shark.community/users/FurryBeta/statuses/116732131878639866https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://shark.community/users/FurryBeta/statuses/116732131878639866Thu, 11 Jun 2026 15:16:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to We're obsessed with the idea that poor people might take more than they need, on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 15:15:35 GMT]]>@FurryBeta @DavidM_yeg @WeirdWriter @JustinDerrick

the rich have places like that to hide behind and other than some celebs (and even they are being more quiet about that) few brag about taking drugs even if they do them..

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.tchncs.de/users/vfrmedia/statuses/116732129118628862https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.tchncs.de/users/vfrmedia/statuses/116732129118628862Thu, 11 Jun 2026 15:15:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to We're obsessed with the idea that poor people might take more than they need, on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 15:14:07 GMT]]>@DavidM_yeg @WeirdWriter @vfrmedia @JustinDerrick you got that right

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://shark.community/users/FurryBeta/statuses/116732123401415880https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://shark.community/users/FurryBeta/statuses/116732123401415880Thu, 11 Jun 2026 15:14:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to We're obsessed with the idea that poor people might take more than they need, on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 15:13:36 GMT]]>@WeirdWriter @vfrmedia @JustinDerrick @FurryBeta

The people who complain about that never seem particularly concerned that the rich spend money on drugs and consume them in their fancy-pants mansions.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://beige.party/users/DavidM_yeg/statuses/116732121329443511https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://beige.party/users/DavidM_yeg/statuses/116732121329443511Thu, 11 Jun 2026 15:13:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to We're obsessed with the idea that poor people might take more than they need, on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 15:11:14 GMT]]>@JustinDerrick @WeirdWriter

There is an epidemic of ‘incomplete’ UBI and related studies, because allowing them to run to completion would make the results even more damning to the status quo.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://beige.party/users/DavidM_yeg/statuses/116732112039412238https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://beige.party/users/DavidM_yeg/statuses/116732112039412238Thu, 11 Jun 2026 15:11:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to We're obsessed with the idea that poor people might take more than they need, on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 15:01:05 GMT]]>@FurryBeta @JustinDerrick @WeirdWriter

I've also heard folk (especially during the more hedonistic times of the 90s/00s) say "WTF does it even matter if they might go and buy drugs or booze, I would have done that myself anyway.."

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.tchncs.de/users/vfrmedia/statuses/116732072101058755https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.tchncs.de/users/vfrmedia/statuses/116732072101058755Thu, 11 Jun 2026 15:01:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to We're obsessed with the idea that poor people might take more than they need, on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 14:51:26 GMT]]>@JustinDerrick @WeirdWriter When I’m out and I come across a panhandler, I always hand out some cash. Had someone tell me that I was wasting my money and they would just drink/smoke/shoot up with it, and I say that’s fine if they do that, but they also might buy some condoms if they do sex work, get a bite to eat if they were hungry, or something else they need. My acquaintance just couldn’t understand

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://shark.community/users/FurryBeta/statuses/116732034216462295https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://shark.community/users/FurryBeta/statuses/116732034216462295Thu, 11 Jun 2026 14:51:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to We're obsessed with the idea that poor people might take more than they need, on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 14:45:43 GMT]]>@JustinDerrick

@WeirdWriter

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodontech.de/users/alterelefant/statuses/116732011703874565https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodontech.de/users/alterelefant/statuses/116732011703874565Thu, 11 Jun 2026 14:45:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to We're obsessed with the idea that poor people might take more than they need, on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 11:04:16 GMT]]>@WeirdWriter @JustinDerrick My favorite question is always: So would *you* stop to work, when offered UBI? And I've never gotten a Yes. It's always _those other people_ they are worried about. Yeah, right.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://norden.social/users/melgu/statuses/116731140956402672https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://norden.social/users/melgu/statuses/116731140956402672Thu, 11 Jun 2026 11:04:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to We're obsessed with the idea that poor people might take more than they need, on Wed, 10 Jun 2026 07:03:58 GMT]]>@WeirdWriter@caneandable.social They got rich by taking more than they need.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sakurajima.social/notes/anbaekhqcyhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sakurajima.social/notes/anbaekhqcyWed, 10 Jun 2026 07:03:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to We're obsessed with the idea that poor people might take more than they need, on Wed, 10 Jun 2026 02:10:46 GMT]]>@WeirdWriter I'm ok with that "welfare queen" (ugh) having lobster dinner every night of the fucking week, but not so much OK with Jeff Bezos having a yacht that comes with a yacht and destroying the planet in the process.

Priorities, people.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/violenteastcoastcity/statuses/116723380826299814https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/violenteastcoastcity/statuses/116723380826299814Wed, 10 Jun 2026 02:10:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to We're obsessed with the idea that poor people might take more than they need, on Tue, 09 Jun 2026 22:45:11 GMT]]>@WeirdWriter i suspect it's not that the rich don't have enough, but it's that others still have something, and that's not acceptable as they don't wield ultimate power when there's still a way to survive without them.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://avatastic.uk/users/avatastic/statuses/116722572439077801https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://avatastic.uk/users/avatastic/statuses/116722572439077801Tue, 09 Jun 2026 22:45:11 GMT