<![CDATA[Wow. The gloves are truly off.]]>Wow. The gloves are truly off.

Europe must choose between AI and climate goals, data center lobby says – POLITICO
https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-choose-ai-climate-goals-data-center-chief-warns/

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/6ba5e192-c08a-4d3a-989a-4b95fb9e8226/wow.-the-gloves-are-truly-off.RSS for NodeSat, 27 Jun 2026 15:00:40 GMTThu, 18 Jun 2026 18:34:26 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Wow. The gloves are truly off. on Mon, 22 Jun 2026 12:30:36 GMT]]>@flomaraninchi J'ai un client qui était en stress de ne pas avoir lancer l'enregistrement de la dernière réunion. Alors que le compte rendu c'était le pauvre diagramme de flux que j'ai créé en live pendant la réunion.
"Non mais Jean-Michel AMOA veut absolument les CR par IA" 💀

@jaztrophysicist

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mamot.fr/users/adarr_volte/statuses/116793765849372215https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mamot.fr/users/adarr_volte/statuses/116793765849372215Mon, 22 Jun 2026 12:30:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wow. The gloves are truly off. on Sat, 20 Jun 2026 10:07:09 GMT]]>@flomaraninchi @jaztrophysicist and crappy summaries at that!

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://piaille.fr/users/fafanarcool/statuses/116781877135410891https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://piaille.fr/users/fafanarcool/statuses/116781877135410891Sat, 20 Jun 2026 10:07:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wow. The gloves are truly off. on Fri, 19 Jun 2026 21:20:22 GMT]]>@nichni for us. Not for the lobbied EU commission and parliement unfortunately.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.sciences.re/users/jaztrophysicist/statuses/116778862021591925https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.sciences.re/users/jaztrophysicist/statuses/116778862021591925Fri, 19 Jun 2026 21:20:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wow. The gloves are truly off. on Fri, 19 Jun 2026 21:19:10 GMT]]>@jaztrophysicist No brainer, isn't it?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodonapp.uk/users/nichni/statuses/116778857280069460https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodonapp.uk/users/nichni/statuses/116778857280069460Fri, 19 Jun 2026 21:19:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wow. The gloves are truly off. on Fri, 19 Jun 2026 20:40:21 GMT]]>@vampirdaddy @NatureMC or, more likely taxpayer citizens will foot the bill (financial and ecological)

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.sciences.re/users/jaztrophysicist/statuses/116778704680269133https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.sciences.re/users/jaztrophysicist/statuses/116778704680269133Fri, 19 Jun 2026 20:40:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wow. The gloves are truly off. on Fri, 19 Jun 2026 18:38:57 GMT]]>@jaztrophysicist oh yes, you're right. But still.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://eldritch.cafe/users/orange_lux/statuses/116778227295029576https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://eldritch.cafe/users/orange_lux/statuses/116778227295029576Fri, 19 Jun 2026 18:38:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wow. The gloves are truly off. on Fri, 19 Jun 2026 18:35:52 GMT]]>@orange_lux ( it's not my summary, it's politico's one)

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.sciences.re/users/jaztrophysicist/statuses/116778215176373806https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.sciences.re/users/jaztrophysicist/statuses/116778215176373806Fri, 19 Jun 2026 18:35:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wow. The gloves are truly off. on Fri, 19 Jun 2026 18:33:38 GMT]]>@jaztrophysicist I'd rephrase your summary by saying "Europe must choose AI over climate goals, data center lobby says", because I naively thought the conclusion would be the other one, and BOY WAS I WRONG.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://eldritch.cafe/users/orange_lux/statuses/116778206427467575https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://eldritch.cafe/users/orange_lux/statuses/116778206427467575Fri, 19 Jun 2026 18:33:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wow. The gloves are truly off. on Fri, 19 Jun 2026 17:39:10 GMT]]>@NatureMC @jaztrophysicist
💯

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.me.uk/users/Christo_459/statuses/116777992201187375https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.me.uk/users/Christo_459/statuses/116777992201187375Fri, 19 Jun 2026 17:39:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wow. The gloves are truly off. on Fri, 19 Jun 2026 17:28:43 GMT]]>@disco3000 it's not really a "choice" they are proposing of course they are lobbyists.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.sciences.re/users/jaztrophysicist/statuses/116777951166370106https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.sciences.re/users/jaztrophysicist/statuses/116777951166370106Fri, 19 Jun 2026 17:28:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wow. The gloves are truly off. on Fri, 19 Jun 2026 17:27:08 GMT]]>@jaztrophysicist then climate change please. Nobody wants the enshitification of everything with AI slop

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://climatejustice.social/users/disco3000/statuses/116777944936115274https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://climatejustice.social/users/disco3000/statuses/116777944936115274Fri, 19 Jun 2026 17:27:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wow. The gloves are truly off. on Fri, 19 Jun 2026 17:18:38 GMT]]>@vampirdaddy You missed, what German minister "Gas Kathy" aka Katherina Reiche plans?
@jaztrophysicist

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/NatureMC/statuses/116777911492742712https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/NatureMC/statuses/116777911492742712Fri, 19 Jun 2026 17:18:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wow. The gloves are truly off. on Fri, 19 Jun 2026 17:14:31 GMT]]>@Christo_459 more climate crisis will kill more than only Europeans, starting in poor countries ... @jaztrophysicist

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/NatureMC/statuses/116777895286560675https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/NatureMC/statuses/116777895286560675Fri, 19 Jun 2026 17:14:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wow. The gloves are truly off. on Fri, 19 Jun 2026 15:58:24 GMT]]>@jaztrophysicist
Funny! I never expected to hear the data centre lobby say something I've been saying about data centres...

But yes, the EU must choose. I do hope they will choose wisely!

(if their other choices, eg pro-poisoning ourselves with pesticides, are anything to go by they will, alas, choose... poorly.)

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.nl/users/Thijs_Goverde/statuses/116777595978699135https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.nl/users/Thijs_Goverde/statuses/116777595978699135Fri, 19 Jun 2026 15:58:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wow. The gloves are truly off. on Fri, 19 Jun 2026 15:40:19 GMT]]>@jaztrophysicist that's easy : get rid of the ....

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://wien.rocks/users/ovrim/statuses/116777524896948466https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://wien.rocks/users/ovrim/statuses/116777524896948466Fri, 19 Jun 2026 15:40:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wow. The gloves are truly off. on Fri, 19 Jun 2026 14:19:21 GMT]]>@jaztrophysicist
Gas plants are a US electricity network problem.

Where electricity connection is missing, gas pipelines also are lacking. Thus a non-argument in the EU.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://chaos.social/users/vampirdaddy/statuses/116777206495808763https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://chaos.social/users/vampirdaddy/statuses/116777206495808763Fri, 19 Jun 2026 14:19:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wow. The gloves are truly off. on Fri, 19 Jun 2026 14:06:49 GMT]]>@jaztrophysicist The AI bubble will be gone in a year, the climate.. less so. So the choice is very clear.
The EU commission is going to focus on AI, when the whole population would prefer them to focus on the environment.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://chaosfurs.social/users/WooShell/statuses/116777157224838459https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://chaosfurs.social/users/WooShell/statuses/116777157224838459Fri, 19 Jun 2026 14:06:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wow. The gloves are truly off. on Fri, 19 Jun 2026 14:04:59 GMT]]>@jaztrophysicist PR strategy: let's say the quiet part out loud because (checks notes) late stage capitalism brah

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/georgebaily/statuses/116777150025132785https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/georgebaily/statuses/116777150025132785Fri, 19 Jun 2026 14:04:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wow. The gloves are truly off. on Fri, 19 Jun 2026 13:21:05 GMT]]>@MeneerDeBruin Too bad our representatives are doing the exact opposite one.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.sciences.re/users/jaztrophysicist/statuses/116776977418663837https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.sciences.re/users/jaztrophysicist/statuses/116776977418663837Fri, 19 Jun 2026 13:21:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wow. The gloves are truly off. on Fri, 19 Jun 2026 13:20:08 GMT]]>@jaztrophysicist Well that's an easy choice. Climate goals of course.

There is a third option which they apparently do not even want to contemplate: Want an ai data center? Then ensure there is enough alternative energy and water. No taking of the publicly available pool of resources.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.nl/users/MeneerDeBruin/statuses/116776973640522233https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.nl/users/MeneerDeBruin/statuses/116776973640522233Fri, 19 Jun 2026 13:20:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wow. The gloves are truly off. on Fri, 19 Jun 2026 11:21:14 GMT]]>@jaztrophysicist
Well if Europe wants to die

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.me.uk/users/Christo_459/statuses/116776506141630419https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.me.uk/users/Christo_459/statuses/116776506141630419Fri, 19 Jun 2026 11:21:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wow. The gloves are truly off. on Fri, 19 Jun 2026 10:32:21 GMT]]>@jaztrophysicist AI datacenters and massive profits for billionaires, or a livable future for humanity. Only neoliberal politicians think that’s a difficult choice. Unfortunately, that’s what we’ve got currently.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.nl/users/xerge/statuses/116776313927406568https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.nl/users/xerge/statuses/116776313927406568Fri, 19 Jun 2026 10:32:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wow. The gloves are truly off. on Fri, 19 Jun 2026 09:08:32 GMT]]>@steve Is it?We seem to have had the "we must choose between capitalism or climate goals" for a bit, and capitalism always wins, so I am not sure they run a risk by flagging this... Sadly.. it seems a clean, winning "forget climate, because money" argument... 😞 @jaztrophysicist @MonniauxD

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tech.lgbt/users/lettosprey/statuses/116775984300433806https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tech.lgbt/users/lettosprey/statuses/116775984300433806Fri, 19 Jun 2026 09:08:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wow. The gloves are truly off. on Fri, 19 Jun 2026 08:11:32 GMT]]>@jaztrophysicist But... Germany has to follow it's climate goals. That's a constitutional thing!

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