<![CDATA[https://bmi.usercontent.opencode.de/eudi-wallet/wallet-development-documentation-public/latest/architecture-concept/06-mobile-devices/02-mdvm/]]>https://bmi.usercontent.opencode.de/eudi-wallet/wallet-development-documentation-public/latest/architecture-concept/06-mobile-devices/02-mdvm/

So, it turns out the German implementation of eIDAS (electronic ID wallet for e.g. age attestation) will require an Apple/Google account to function

Absolutely pathetic

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]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.finkhaeuser.de/users/jens/statuses/116350516810257402https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.finkhaeuser.de/users/jens/statuses/116350516810257402Sun, 05 Apr 2026 05:46:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to https://bmi.usercontent.opencode.de/eudi-wallet/wallet-development-documentation-public/latest/architecture-concept/06-mobile-devices/02-mdvm/ on Sun, 05 Apr 2026 05:37:30 GMT]]>@pojntfx Why not facebook and make it even worse... 🤦‍♂️

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://writing.exchange/users/paulk/statuses/116350481226409463https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://writing.exchange/users/paulk/statuses/116350481226409463Sun, 05 Apr 2026 05:37:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to https://bmi.usercontent.opencode.de/eudi-wallet/wallet-development-documentation-public/latest/architecture-concept/06-mobile-devices/02-mdvm/ on Sun, 05 Apr 2026 05:26:50 GMT]]>

CC: @pojntfx@mastodon.social @tdelmas@mamot.fr
]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hj.9fs.net/ori/p/1775366810.628045https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hj.9fs.net/ori/p/1775366810.628045Sun, 05 Apr 2026 05:26:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to https://bmi.usercontent.opencode.de/eudi-wallet/wallet-development-documentation-public/latest/architecture-concept/06-mobile-devices/02-mdvm/ on Sun, 05 Apr 2026 05:04:08 GMT]]>¡Interesante publicación! Si te gusta el estilo oscuro, te invito a echar un vistazo a 'Sombra y Saeta'. 🔥 http://sombraysaeta.duckdns.org

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116348273920200651/statuses/116350350005105875https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116348273920200651/statuses/116350350005105875Sun, 05 Apr 2026 05:04:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to https://bmi.usercontent.opencode.de/eudi-wallet/wallet-development-documentation-public/latest/architecture-concept/06-mobile-devices/02-mdvm/ on Sun, 05 Apr 2026 02:42:41 GMT]]>@pojntfx dafuq?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.xyz/users/gizmomathboy/statuses/116349793811456255https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.xyz/users/gizmomathboy/statuses/116349793811456255Sun, 05 Apr 2026 02:42:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to https://bmi.usercontent.opencode.de/eudi-wallet/wallet-development-documentation-public/latest/architecture-concept/06-mobile-devices/02-mdvm/ on Sun, 05 Apr 2026 01:34:44 GMT]]>@pojntfx it's been our personal biggest concern with all forms of electronic ID from the start, but alas we don't get to decide this stuff

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://adhd.irenes.space/users/ireneista/statuses/01KNDMEAW3QMSCW0K1Q44S3DHEhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://adhd.irenes.space/users/ireneista/statuses/01KNDMEAW3QMSCW0K1Q44S3DHESun, 05 Apr 2026 01:34:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to https://bmi.usercontent.opencode.de/eudi-wallet/wallet-development-documentation-public/latest/architecture-concept/06-mobile-devices/02-mdvm/ on Sun, 05 Apr 2026 01:34:08 GMT]]>@pojntfx oh wow. that's horrifying. entirely to be expected because industry voices have been basically the only ones at the table in setting policy around electronic ID, but horrifying.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://adhd.irenes.space/users/ireneista/statuses/01KNDMD88HS3JB45DTEYX2XD65https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://adhd.irenes.space/users/ireneista/statuses/01KNDMD88HS3JB45DTEYX2XD65Sun, 05 Apr 2026 01:34:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to https://bmi.usercontent.opencode.de/eudi-wallet/wallet-development-documentation-public/latest/architecture-concept/06-mobile-devices/02-mdvm/ on Sun, 05 Apr 2026 00:53:12 GMT]]>@pojntfx As an American, I fucking hate this for us and for you.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://chitter.xyz/users/faoluin/statuses/116349363344372297https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://chitter.xyz/users/faoluin/statuses/116349363344372297Sun, 05 Apr 2026 00:53:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to https://bmi.usercontent.opencode.de/eudi-wallet/wallet-development-documentation-public/latest/architecture-concept/06-mobile-devices/02-mdvm/ on Sun, 05 Apr 2026 00:06:24 GMT]]>@pojntfx Imagine that your google account has been somehow hacked..
This will means, that your electronic-wallet, your bank accounts, your iban adresses, your government id also now hacked and all stolen..
Say goodbye to all of your money, maybe even say goodbye to your own flats, your own houses also..
You're been hacked. 🤮
Soon the world will understand how bad idea was this electronic-wallet system, but it will be too late to return back to good ol' days...

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/115893165870098137/statuses/116349179329230980https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/115893165870098137/statuses/116349179329230980Sun, 05 Apr 2026 00:06:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to https://bmi.usercontent.opencode.de/eudi-wallet/wallet-development-documentation-public/latest/architecture-concept/06-mobile-devices/02-mdvm/ on Sat, 04 Apr 2026 23:55:26 GMT]]>@pojntfx thank you for sharing that important information. We’re working on a solution which may just improve this exact trust issue.

Imagine if you can bind your very own sovereign zero knowledge decentralised DNS certificate to your phone. Protecting you via the root of the OS.

Empowering every user from the very heart of the device. A global zero knowledge decentralised proof of personhood network. Owned exclusively by the people. Intended as a public good protocol 👍

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.zkd.id/ap/users/115924039996252644/statuses/116349136146388080https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.zkd.id/ap/users/115924039996252644/statuses/116349136146388080Sat, 04 Apr 2026 23:55:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to https://bmi.usercontent.opencode.de/eudi-wallet/wallet-development-documentation-public/latest/architecture-concept/06-mobile-devices/02-mdvm/ on Sat, 04 Apr 2026 23:21:54 GMT]]>@ahasty so while I empathize with the resignation and despair I would feel if I said what you said (and I might've said at one time), I also think society isn't in itself an entity that can think and give power to anybody, it's people who looked at the laws and the media and who decided to play as dirty as they could to gain power, and they're self-serving and some, actively malicious, and I need to do what I can to counteract this - in this case, help ensure access to services without eIDAS

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://polyglot.city/users/zombiecide/statuses/116349004309294896https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://polyglot.city/users/zombiecide/statuses/116349004309294896Sat, 04 Apr 2026 23:21:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to https://bmi.usercontent.opencode.de/eudi-wallet/wallet-development-documentation-public/latest/architecture-concept/06-mobile-devices/02-mdvm/ on Sat, 04 Apr 2026 23:14:29 GMT]]>@ahasty I gave you a light-hearted way out of that direction, would've been nice if you took it

Hanlon's razor, while considered philosophical, is basically an emotional coping skill used to counteract certain types of rumination (caused by seeing current negative interaction as threat because of past trauma or learned behaviour)

emotional coping on its own, however, is of little use when dealing with current threats

and Hanlon's razor is not actually a very good emotional coping skill either

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://polyglot.city/users/zombiecide/statuses/116348975134033262https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://polyglot.city/users/zombiecide/statuses/116348975134033262Sat, 04 Apr 2026 23:14:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to https://bmi.usercontent.opencode.de/eudi-wallet/wallet-development-documentation-public/latest/architecture-concept/06-mobile-devices/02-mdvm/ on Sat, 04 Apr 2026 23:13:37 GMT]]>@pojntfx That kind of is already the case. Try getting important apps without an apple or Google account... You can for android at the moment because of apks and third party mirrors. or using something like aurora store who have a bunch of Google accounts setup. But with app store age verification looming globally I think it is only a matter of time before that comes to and end. On top of that it seems like google is killing sideloading which won't help

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://raphus.social/ap/users/116209461285390249/statuses/116348971723372593https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://raphus.social/ap/users/116209461285390249/statuses/116348971723372593Sat, 04 Apr 2026 23:13:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to https://bmi.usercontent.opencode.de/eudi-wallet/wallet-development-documentation-public/latest/architecture-concept/06-mobile-devices/02-mdvm/ on Sat, 04 Apr 2026 22:58:13 GMT]]>@pojntfx@mastodon.social this is what I feared and anticipated.

I'm a nerd and early adoptor usually but I'm going more and more offline when it comes to state sanctioned digitalisation efforts as they try to cage me in.

I'm running GrapheneOS - I already can't use most of the mandated apps from my public health insurance as they insist on Google/Apple lock-in.

It's pathetic especially since it is entirely possible to get the same security guarantees using Android APIs alone.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://federation.network/notes/akohzoe8h4rh01bqhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://federation.network/notes/akohzoe8h4rh01bqSat, 04 Apr 2026 22:58:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to https://bmi.usercontent.opencode.de/eudi-wallet/wallet-development-documentation-public/latest/architecture-concept/06-mobile-devices/02-mdvm/ on Sat, 04 Apr 2026 22:55:03 GMT]]>@zombiecide the real malice is how society seems to give the most power to the stupidest people

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://techhub.social/users/ahasty/statuses/116348898736632185https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://techhub.social/users/ahasty/statuses/116348898736632185Sat, 04 Apr 2026 22:55:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to https://bmi.usercontent.opencode.de/eudi-wallet/wallet-development-documentation-public/latest/architecture-concept/06-mobile-devices/02-mdvm/ on Sat, 04 Apr 2026 22:53:53 GMT]]>@pojntfx i wonder if they'll do anything to support huawei phones. according to statcounter, that's 1.6% of the german market!]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://xyzzy.link/objects/466ea8f1-b896-4f9b-9ed1-5050b274927dhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://xyzzy.link/objects/466ea8f1-b896-4f9b-9ed1-5050b274927dSat, 04 Apr 2026 22:53:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to https://bmi.usercontent.opencode.de/eudi-wallet/wallet-development-documentation-public/latest/architecture-concept/06-mobile-devices/02-mdvm/ on Sat, 04 Apr 2026 22:47:03 GMT]]>@ahasty any reasonably advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://polyglot.city/users/zombiecide/statuses/116348867275536779https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://polyglot.city/users/zombiecide/statuses/116348867275536779Sat, 04 Apr 2026 22:47:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to https://bmi.usercontent.opencode.de/eudi-wallet/wallet-development-documentation-public/latest/architecture-concept/06-mobile-devices/02-mdvm/ on Sat, 04 Apr 2026 22:37:43 GMT]]>@pojntfx So Apple/Google can collect your data? And so Trump can shut you down? That is ... not good. That should not be legal.]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.kernel.org/objects/1c956ee8-d556-4bf1-9603-91fcb0feb53ehttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.kernel.org/objects/1c956ee8-d556-4bf1-9603-91fcb0feb53eSat, 04 Apr 2026 22:37:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to https://bmi.usercontent.opencode.de/eudi-wallet/wallet-development-documentation-public/latest/architecture-concept/06-mobile-devices/02-mdvm/ on Sat, 04 Apr 2026 22:34:10 GMT]]>@pojntfx @tdelmas as long as age checks are anonymous and allow a generous ratelimit, remote attestation is required to maintain the integrity of the system, that's probably why

like, if i can make a custom android rom and automate issuing age proofs, then transmit them anywhere i want, then i can also create a fake miniwallet that would allow anyone to pass the age verification flow using my proofs. for a low price of 5 euros!

i personally don't think that age verification is a good idea, and even if it has to happen, remote attestation creates more problems than it solves. people will find ways to bypass age checks regardless, so this only closes one of the gaps, while excluding a fair amount of people. but i imagine this was one of the concerns that led to the decision to make it a requirement.]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://xyzzy.link/objects/58e8e855-7e73-4ed9-bbd6-c853dc689e1ehttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://xyzzy.link/objects/58e8e855-7e73-4ed9-bbd6-c853dc689e1eSat, 04 Apr 2026 22:34:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to https://bmi.usercontent.opencode.de/eudi-wallet/wallet-development-documentation-public/latest/architecture-concept/06-mobile-devices/02-mdvm/ on Sat, 04 Apr 2026 22:28:36 GMT]]>@LunaDragofelis @tdelmas @pojntfx this issue was addressed eight months ago via their GitLab repo, so hopefully they've thought about it, but still they didn't change anything: https://gitlab.opencode.de/bmi/eudi-wallet/wallet-development-documentation-public/-/issues/2

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://ruhr.social/users/benedikt/statuses/116348794763279059https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://ruhr.social/users/benedikt/statuses/116348794763279059Sat, 04 Apr 2026 22:28:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to https://bmi.usercontent.opencode.de/eudi-wallet/wallet-development-documentation-public/latest/architecture-concept/06-mobile-devices/02-mdvm/ on Sat, 04 Apr 2026 22:26:19 GMT]]>@pojntfx Can my government please start following the law or at least try to...

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://chaos.social/users/Ntropic/statuses/116348785768759076https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://chaos.social/users/Ntropic/statuses/116348785768759076Sat, 04 Apr 2026 22:26:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to https://bmi.usercontent.opencode.de/eudi-wallet/wallet-development-documentation-public/latest/architecture-concept/06-mobile-devices/02-mdvm/ on Sat, 04 Apr 2026 21:58:57 GMT]]>@Larymir @fallbackerik @pojntfx @arjen

It's broken, if it depends on Android (or iOS). It should run on other OSes, too, such as on PCs or on my which runs .

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://framapiaf.org/users/debacle/statuses/116348678171749080https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://framapiaf.org/users/debacle/statuses/116348678171749080Sat, 04 Apr 2026 21:58:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to https://bmi.usercontent.opencode.de/eudi-wallet/wallet-development-documentation-public/latest/architecture-concept/06-mobile-devices/02-mdvm/ on Sat, 04 Apr 2026 21:48:21 GMT]]>@pojntfx I wonder, why isn't anybody writing about EU age attestation in the first place? https://leminal.space/post/31858818/21120139

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/ell1e/statuses/116348636445417123https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/ell1e/statuses/116348636445417123Sat, 04 Apr 2026 21:48:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to https://bmi.usercontent.opencode.de/eudi-wallet/wallet-development-documentation-public/latest/architecture-concept/06-mobile-devices/02-mdvm/ on Sat, 04 Apr 2026 21:09:52 GMT]]>@pojntfx codifying the use of AmeriKKKan tech is a really stupid autonomy move... And that doesn't even scrape the surface of reasons this is going to be really, really bad for privacy. Dumb as hell.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hispagatos.space/users/R4D10_411310P47HY/statuses/116348485152081893https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hispagatos.space/users/R4D10_411310P47HY/statuses/116348485152081893Sat, 04 Apr 2026 21:09:52 GMT