<![CDATA[Czech your passwords.]]>Czech your passwords.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/7892b5bc-3c40-4df9-8cbb-20209169dd8c/czech-your-passwords.RSS for NodeThu, 13 Aug 2026 12:14:09 GMTTue, 11 Aug 2026 15:33:54 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Czech your passwords. on Wed, 12 Aug 2026 09:45:46 GMT]]>@jupiter

En France c'est ééééééééé

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://rheinneckar.social/ap/users/116681911239255698/statuses/117081895483301601https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://rheinneckar.social/ap/users/116681911239255698/statuses/117081895483301601Wed, 12 Aug 2026 09:45:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Czech your passwords. on Wed, 12 Aug 2026 08:01:40 GMT]]>@jupiter Hope to never have to login at another keyboard in the world! 😅 or keep the Unicode at hand 😀

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/ap/users/116092650648397225/statuses/117081486166762484https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/ap/users/116092650648397225/statuses/117081486166762484Wed, 12 Aug 2026 08:01:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Czech your passwords. on Wed, 12 Aug 2026 07:21:29 GMT]]>@jupiter @chemlon Řehoři, tetřev! Tř Tř

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://indieweb.social/users/alesroubicek/statuses/117081328164378105https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://indieweb.social/users/alesroubicek/statuses/117081328164378105Wed, 12 Aug 2026 07:21:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Czech your passwords. on Wed, 12 Aug 2026 07:18:54 GMT]]>@zl2tod @jupiter Ahoj!

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://indieweb.social/users/alesroubicek/statuses/117081318004999609https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://indieweb.social/users/alesroubicek/statuses/117081318004999609Wed, 12 Aug 2026 07:18:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Czech your passwords. on Wed, 12 Aug 2026 02:44:59 GMT]]>@qgustavor@urusai.social @jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.place I've seen even a password meter which was totally fine with 10s of as and it said it's a strong password, so… yes. ​​

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mk.absturztau.be/notes/apt1w6fvcam300ilhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mk.absturztau.be/notes/apt1w6fvcam300ilWed, 12 Aug 2026 02:44:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Czech your passwords. on Wed, 12 Aug 2026 02:26:15 GMT]]>@Override @jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.place … or over-normalize the text. ​​ I noticed that Discord converts my U+00a0 NBSPs to U+0020 plain spaces.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mk.absturztau.be/notes/apt1839pcam300hphttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mk.absturztau.be/notes/apt1839pcam300hpWed, 12 Aug 2026 02:26:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Czech your passwords. on Wed, 12 Aug 2026 01:32:04 GMT]]>@diffie @jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.place which makes me wonder, if you allow (for the argument) non-ascii chars in passwords, should you normalize input, and where/when?
take the case of someone using a website.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mk.absturztau.be/notes/apszaeyecam300g3https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mk.absturztau.be/notes/apszaeyecam300g3Wed, 12 Aug 2026 01:32:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Czech your passwords. on Wed, 12 Aug 2026 01:20:13 GMT]]>@diffie @jupiter
Depends on the implementation!

One: implementations can use Unicode normalisation so it always handles them combined or always separated.

Two: zxcvbn detects repetition (and penalises it) even strings of two or more repeated substrings!

Three: for character classes-based algorithms, those are weird! IMHO in most cases those are based on "let me guess what a good password is because management asked for a password strength meter" and thus you have lots of implementations based on regex, but also ranges of ASCII ranges and all sorts of mess code. I wonder if AI still generates this messy code or if they just recommend a properly tested library like zxcvbn. I guess the first.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://urusai.social/users/qgustavor/statuses/117079907596312407https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://urusai.social/users/qgustavor/statuses/117079907596312407Wed, 12 Aug 2026 01:20:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Czech your passwords. on Wed, 12 Aug 2026 00:58:23 GMT]]>@jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.place

Copied and pasted from the post, you can tell they are different in the hexdump.

Fun fact: When pasted into a Vim, searching for řřřřřřřřř highlights only one of the ř-words. But when I round-tripped it through XTerm (with UTF-8 enabled), the strings were normalized!

řřřřřřřřř and řřřřřřřřř
00000000: 72cc 8cc5 99c5 99c5 99c5 9972 cc8c 72cc  r..........r..r.
00000010: 8c72 cc8c 72cc 8c20 616e 6420 c599 c599  .r..r.. and ....
00000020: c599 c599 c599 c599 c599 c599 c599 0a    ...............

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mk.absturztau.be/notes/apsy330qcam300e3https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mk.absturztau.be/notes/apsy330qcam300e3Wed, 12 Aug 2026 00:58:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Czech your passwords. on Wed, 12 Aug 2026 00:53:12 GMT]]>@jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.place This is at least 9 bits of entropy, if the app doesn't normalize its Unicode strings.

Example: řřřřřřřřř and řřřřřřřřř might seem to be different for some SW. (Idk whether my fedi client normalized the text – I'll edit if it did.)

Compare plain pre-combined ř as U+XXXX and ASCII r with a combining caron coded as U+0072 then U+030c. These should render the same.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mk.absturztau.be/notes/apsxwfhvcam300dphttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mk.absturztau.be/notes/apsxwfhvcam300dpWed, 12 Aug 2026 00:53:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Czech your passwords. on Wed, 12 Aug 2026 00:50:00 GMT]]>@qgustavor@urusai.social @jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.place What if the carons are combining (U+0072 then U+030c)? Are these a different character classes?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mk.absturztau.be/notes/apsxsbedcam300dlhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mk.absturztau.be/notes/apsxsbedcam300dlWed, 12 Aug 2026 00:50:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Czech your passwords. on Wed, 12 Aug 2026 00:08:58 GMT]]>@jupiter why does this remind me of some shitty track?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116306723250896134/statuses/117079627452495017https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116306723250896134/statuses/117079627452495017Wed, 12 Aug 2026 00:08:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Czech your passwords. on Wed, 12 Aug 2026 00:03:44 GMT]]>@goedelchen @mkyral @TheKeystoneCollective @jupiter Croatia left the chat

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tech.lgbt/ap/users/116655881384112498/statuses/117079606837394322https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tech.lgbt/ap/users/116655881384112498/statuses/117079606837394322Wed, 12 Aug 2026 00:03:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Czech your passwords. on Wed, 12 Aug 2026 00:02:38 GMT]]>@falken @kasperd @MegaMichelle @CrackMeIfYouCan @kajer @jupiter actually no.

LUKS saves , not actual letters & Symbols!

  • Try it!
]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tech.lgbt/ap/users/116655881384112498/statuses/117079602538869927https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tech.lgbt/ap/users/116655881384112498/statuses/117079602538869927Wed, 12 Aug 2026 00:02:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Czech your passwords. on Tue, 11 Aug 2026 23:58:30 GMT]]>@benroyce@mastodon.social @evdelen@mstdn.ca @jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.place you probably have noto fonts <img class=“not-responsive emoji” src=“https://outerheaven.club/emoji/neofox/neofox_lul_256.png” title=“:neofox_lul:” />

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://outerheaven.club/objects/8574276b-ef7d-4b2e-b067-b7334e2e229dhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://outerheaven.club/objects/8574276b-ef7d-4b2e-b067-b7334e2e229dTue, 11 Aug 2026 23:58:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Czech your passwords. on Tue, 11 Aug 2026 23:52:13 GMT]]>@sadth @mkyral @TheKeystoneCollective @jupiter třistatřicettřistříbrnýchstříkačekstříkalopřes333střech 😂🤣

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://witter.cz/users/The_ERROR/statuses/117079561581782636https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://witter.cz/users/The_ERROR/statuses/117079561581782636Tue, 11 Aug 2026 23:52:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Czech your passwords. on Tue, 11 Aug 2026 23:44:22 GMT]]>@jupiter Rrrrrrrrr me hardies!

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.party/users/madness832/statuses/117079530686111016https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.party/users/madness832/statuses/117079530686111016Tue, 11 Aug 2026 23:44:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Czech your passwords. on Tue, 11 Aug 2026 22:54:40 GMT]]>@MegaMichelle @jupiter mind you, even a single special character like the romanian "ă" especially raises entropy by a lot, firstly because it's an unique character only used in romanian and secondly because it is technically outside of the standard Latin alphabet

anyway, we all love spêciăl châracțerș.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://abc.clouderst.xyz/users/clouderst/statuses/01KZSGHZ2FK189KSX55KHXV9A6https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://abc.clouderst.xyz/users/clouderst/statuses/01KZSGHZ2FK189KSX55KHXV9A6Tue, 11 Aug 2026 22:54:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Czech your passwords. on Tue, 11 Aug 2026 22:19:51 GMT]]>@jupiter

what a great idea!

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://kolektiva.social/users/TauCeti/statuses/117079198382746956https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://kolektiva.social/users/TauCeti/statuses/117079198382746956Tue, 11 Aug 2026 22:19:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Czech your passwords. on Tue, 11 Aug 2026 22:06:42 GMT]]>@jupiter 😄

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://punkstodon.de/ap/users/116856857211294910/statuses/117079146640242778https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://punkstodon.de/ap/users/116856857211294910/statuses/117079146640242778Tue, 11 Aug 2026 22:06:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Czech your passwords. on Tue, 11 Aug 2026 21:39:10 GMT]]>@jupiter And doucle-Czech your password checker?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mamot.fr/users/devnull/statuses/117079038383944597https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mamot.fr/users/devnull/statuses/117079038383944597Tue, 11 Aug 2026 21:39:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Czech your passwords. on Tue, 11 Aug 2026 21:16:53 GMT]]>@jupiter

What?

It's Talk Like A Pirate Day again already?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/zl2tod/statuses/117078950789953346https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/zl2tod/statuses/117078950789953346Tue, 11 Aug 2026 21:16:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Czech your passwords. on Tue, 11 Aug 2026 21:16:34 GMT]]>@kasperd @MegaMichelle @CrackMeIfYouCan @kajer @jupiter keep two different keyboards on your desk?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.falkensweb.com/users/falken/statuses/01KZSAYBEV1DT4KN3GXDVAM4FKhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.falkensweb.com/users/falken/statuses/01KZSAYBEV1DT4KN3GXDVAM4FKTue, 11 Aug 2026 21:16:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Czech your passwords. on Tue, 11 Aug 2026 21:15:48 GMT]]>Imagine how the German and the French would deal with that.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://westergaard.social/objects/ff70fa26-0e00-4385-884e-fe4318b52329https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://westergaard.social/objects/ff70fa26-0e00-4385-884e-fe4318b52329Tue, 11 Aug 2026 21:15:48 GMT