<![CDATA[the internet loves grapheneOS, the secure AOSP fork that also makes Android nicely usable without the LLM crap]]>the internet loves grapheneOS, the secure AOSP fork that also makes Android nicely usable without the LLM crap

<yelling from out of frame>

…ah. this just in, grapheneOS has decided to start codegooning core apps and security fixes and now they’re exhaustingly defending doing that

> Many valid issues are reported in between the hallucinations and other nonsense.

oh I see, what a relief

> Attackers are heavily using AI models to discover vulnerabilities and develop exploits. For example, Cellebrite is heavily using it including developing frameworks for reverse engineering and vulnerability discovery.

gotta use the wrongness machine, no sorry, “frontier models” because the coptech adversary is using them and also mythic’s great at finding vulnerabilities til you find out you can do the same job without it. great! https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/117226938743085364

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/839c9fb9-1086-4adc-9baa-b519e35635b6/the-internet-loves-grapheneos-the-secure-aosp-fork-that-also-makes-android-nicely-usable-without-the-llm-crapRSS for NodeFri, 11 Sep 2026 19:02:37 GMTTue, 08 Sep 2026 10:29:09 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to the internet loves grapheneOS, the secure AOSP fork that also makes Android nicely usable without the LLM crap on Tue, 08 Sep 2026 15:15:53 GMT]]>@GroupNebula563 @zzt these babies aren't going to mince themselves

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.me.uk/users/pikesley/statuses/117236075970771690https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.me.uk/users/pikesley/statuses/117236075970771690Tue, 08 Sep 2026 15:15:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to the internet loves grapheneOS, the secure AOSP fork that also makes Android nicely usable without the LLM crap on Tue, 08 Sep 2026 14:58:34 GMT]]>@zzt Can I get another definition for "code review"?

And is this implying that they need to replace Linux as their OS...?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://apobangpo.space/users/dnkboston/statuses/117236007848202405https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://apobangpo.space/users/dnkboston/statuses/117236007848202405Tue, 08 Sep 2026 14:58:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to the internet loves grapheneOS, the secure AOSP fork that also makes Android nicely usable without the LLM crap on Tue, 08 Sep 2026 14:58:02 GMT]]>@ariarhythmic @avesbury_rosetta @hazelnot @zzt it's high time to move on from the so-called BDFLs of Torvalds and rms and their projects.. (and probably other projects too)

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.tovelago.se/users/tove/statuses/01M20RDBQ3FN8GX022QRKFWXDRhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.tovelago.se/users/tove/statuses/01M20RDBQ3FN8GX022QRKFWXDRTue, 08 Sep 2026 14:58:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to the internet loves grapheneOS, the secure AOSP fork that also makes Android nicely usable without the LLM crap on Tue, 08 Sep 2026 14:55:14 GMT]]>@zzt Can we get a definition of "contractor" and contrast that to "employee"? Asking for a friend.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://apobangpo.space/users/dnkboston/statuses/117235994729584026https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://apobangpo.space/users/dnkboston/statuses/117235994729584026Tue, 08 Sep 2026 14:55:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to the internet loves grapheneOS, the secure AOSP fork that also makes Android nicely usable without the LLM crap on Tue, 08 Sep 2026 14:50:39 GMT]]>“but everyone else is doing it!” computer security is where you exact exactly like a child that got caught with cigarettes

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/zzt/statuses/117235976730782892https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/zzt/statuses/117235976730782892Tue, 08 Sep 2026 14:50:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to the internet loves grapheneOS, the secure AOSP fork that also makes Android nicely usable without the LLM crap on Tue, 08 Sep 2026 14:48:12 GMT]]>@zzt wait...er... are they trying to say the code they use doesn't meet their standards? Like, that just says it like it is, graphene is android with extra security theater on top. Shouldn't be saying the quiet part loud y'all.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.sdf.org/users/errant/statuses/117235967106129191https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.sdf.org/users/errant/statuses/117235967106129191Tue, 08 Sep 2026 14:48:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to the internet loves grapheneOS, the secure AOSP fork that also makes Android nicely usable without the LLM crap on Tue, 08 Sep 2026 14:44:43 GMT]]>@Brett_E_Carlock@mastodon.online @zzt@mas.to as i was researching OSes to install on a Pixel phone long in the tooth, came up as possible solutions. But seeing how they’re going all out on Artificial Idiots, there’s one fewer candidate.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://calckeymusic.social/notes/aqwchrfdxsacpe3hhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://calckeymusic.social/notes/aqwchrfdxsacpe3hTue, 08 Sep 2026 14:44:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to the internet loves grapheneOS, the secure AOSP fork that also makes Android nicely usable without the LLM crap on Tue, 08 Sep 2026 14:43:00 GMT]]>@davidgerard @GroupNebula563 can’t root your own device or have a web browser that’s worth a damn, that would make us just as bad as lineage

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/zzt/statuses/117235946637918819https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/zzt/statuses/117235946637918819Tue, 08 Sep 2026 14:43:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to the internet loves grapheneOS, the secure AOSP fork that also makes Android nicely usable without the LLM crap on Tue, 08 Sep 2026 14:42:38 GMT]]>@davidgerard @GroupNebula563 “but lineageOS is doing it” cool motherfuckers, there’s a reason why I don’t use lineage! and almost all of it is that graphene promised to be better than lineage!

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/zzt/statuses/117235945212923438https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/zzt/statuses/117235945212923438Tue, 08 Sep 2026 14:42:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to the internet loves grapheneOS, the secure AOSP fork that also makes Android nicely usable without the LLM crap on Tue, 08 Sep 2026 14:41:42 GMT]]>@GroupNebula563 @zzt graphene literally just linked the lineage AI policy as a whataboutery

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://circumstances.run/users/davidgerard/statuses/117235941570078053https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://circumstances.run/users/davidgerard/statuses/117235941570078053Tue, 08 Sep 2026 14:41:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to the internet loves grapheneOS, the secure AOSP fork that also makes Android nicely usable without the LLM crap on Tue, 08 Sep 2026 14:39:53 GMT]]>@zzt “but everyone ELSE is using the baby mincer clearly it’s fine”

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/GroupNebula563/statuses/117235934382349436https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/GroupNebula563/statuses/117235934382349436Tue, 08 Sep 2026 14:39:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to the internet loves grapheneOS, the secure AOSP fork that also makes Android nicely usable without the LLM crap on Tue, 08 Sep 2026 14:38:41 GMT]]>their other reply is so bad that it’s literally just a copy and paste of a summary of their posts in the thread *I was replying to in the OP*: https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/117235863204199402

this isn’t funny, projects only do this when they fuck up bad

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/zzt/statuses/117235929651234094https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/zzt/statuses/117235929651234094Tue, 08 Sep 2026 14:38:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to the internet loves grapheneOS, the secure AOSP fork that also makes Android nicely usable without the LLM crap on Tue, 08 Sep 2026 14:35:27 GMT]]>just in case you thought graphene was at all on our side, they’ve decided to reply to my threads on this with generic corporate bullshit that has nothing to do with any of the points I raised:

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/117235876960852305

this is only technically a better look than their previous behavior of flying off the handle as soon as anyone challenges them, but the bar is in hell

realistically they’re doing this because they’ve just done something incredibly unpopular and are getting a ton of pushback against it that they’re not reading

also, generic corporate shit plays better when you’re in a partnership with motorola, a company lenovo owns

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/zzt/statuses/117235916971591948https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/zzt/statuses/117235916971591948Tue, 08 Sep 2026 14:35:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to the internet loves grapheneOS, the secure AOSP fork that also makes Android nicely usable without the LLM crap on Tue, 08 Sep 2026 14:34:19 GMT]]>@zzt
Their intellectual dishonesty and aggression rubbed me wrong from the first time I saw them communicate, so...

I never used nor recommended it.

I was right to, it seems.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/Brett_E_Carlock/statuses/117235912536150988https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/Brett_E_Carlock/statuses/117235912536150988Tue, 08 Sep 2026 14:34:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to the internet loves grapheneOS, the secure AOSP fork that also makes Android nicely usable without the LLM crap on Tue, 08 Sep 2026 14:02:52 GMT]]>@aadeacon @ehproque @zzt Arboreal Intelligence is inevitable!

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/c0dec0dec0de/statuses/117235788814696614https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/c0dec0dec0de/statuses/117235788814696614Tue, 08 Sep 2026 14:02:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to the internet loves grapheneOS, the secure AOSP fork that also makes Android nicely usable without the LLM crap on Tue, 08 Sep 2026 14:02:21 GMT]]>@viq @ehproque @zzt oh, FFS

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/c0dec0dec0de/statuses/117235786838925626https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/c0dec0dec0de/statuses/117235786838925626Tue, 08 Sep 2026 14:02:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to the internet loves grapheneOS, the secure AOSP fork that also makes Android nicely usable without the LLM crap on Tue, 08 Sep 2026 13:43:30 GMT]]>@ehproque @c0dec0dec0de @zzt And then the Techbro's will find a way to install AI on Trees.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/aadeacon/statuses/117235712690910656https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/aadeacon/statuses/117235712690910656Tue, 08 Sep 2026 13:43:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to the internet loves grapheneOS, the secure AOSP fork that also makes Android nicely usable without the LLM crap on Tue, 08 Sep 2026 13:28:59 GMT]]>@ehproque @c0dec0dec0de @zzt The woods are burning.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/trkzn/statuses/117235655597891860https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/trkzn/statuses/117235655597891860Tue, 08 Sep 2026 13:28:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to the internet loves grapheneOS, the secure AOSP fork that also makes Android nicely usable without the LLM crap on Tue, 08 Sep 2026 13:13:36 GMT]]>@ehproque @c0dec0dec0de @zzt

Living in the woods is no longer viable due to enshittificaiton.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/studio369/statuses/117235595144113520https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/studio369/statuses/117235595144113520Tue, 08 Sep 2026 13:13:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to the internet loves grapheneOS, the secure AOSP fork that also makes Android nicely usable without the LLM crap on Tue, 08 Sep 2026 12:38:14 GMT]]>@zzt sad to report the presence of AGENTS.md and CLAUDE.md in the main Rust repo. And it's of course paid for by the some of the biggest LLM peddlers who are also represented on the board.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://bog.fan/ap/users/117197832804816708/statuses/117235456077005788https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://bog.fan/ap/users/117197832804816708/statuses/117235456077005788Tue, 08 Sep 2026 12:38:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to the internet loves grapheneOS, the secure AOSP fork that also makes Android nicely usable without the LLM crap on Tue, 08 Sep 2026 12:36:31 GMT]]>@jamesbritt the codegooners keep telling me I can’t call what they do slop so I found an even more appropriate term: https://mas.to/@zzt/117225094752753839

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/zzt/statuses/117235449270653445https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/zzt/statuses/117235449270653445Tue, 08 Sep 2026 12:36:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to the internet loves grapheneOS, the secure AOSP fork that also makes Android nicely usable without the LLM crap on Tue, 08 Sep 2026 12:26:31 GMT]]>@zzt

TIL: "codegooning"

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/jamesbritt/statuses/117235410002926425https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/jamesbritt/statuses/117235410002926425Tue, 08 Sep 2026 12:26:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to the internet loves grapheneOS, the secure AOSP fork that also makes Android nicely usable without the LLM crap on Tue, 08 Sep 2026 12:17:34 GMT]]>@zzt
I really want to see an analisys on the quality and severity of those Linux CVEs.

And also even if you're keeping a codebase secure with slop extrusion, and it works (I am generous for a moment), you don't have to glee about it (see also “it's fine if you don't think about ethics” argument).

I maybe could stomach the argument of using the forest burning machine, so the people protesting the forest from burning would have a secure tool, but that goes out window on extruding new code.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/dzwiedziu/statuses/117235374764420470https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/dzwiedziu/statuses/117235374764420470Tue, 08 Sep 2026 12:17:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to the internet loves grapheneOS, the secure AOSP fork that also makes Android nicely usable without the LLM crap on Tue, 08 Sep 2026 12:12:05 GMT]]>@zzt if they really cared about this they would have ship a phil-c compiled kernel version and say "hey this may kill your perf and battery life, but if state actors are actually after you it is worth it"

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/DerivativeThoughts/statuses/117235353201148309https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/DerivativeThoughts/statuses/117235353201148309Tue, 08 Sep 2026 12:12:05 GMT