<![CDATA[you can't deny how useful they are!!]]>you can't deny how useful they are!!

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/9284a3e4-de38-4040-aef1-39138b4f5032/you-can-t-deny-how-useful-they-areRSS for NodeFri, 12 Jun 2026 07:55:00 GMTSun, 07 Jun 2026 14:29:05 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to you can't deny how useful they are!! on Tue, 09 Jun 2026 19:30:18 GMT]]>@jplebreton can you put the link to this article, please? I would like to read it.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/wtrmt/statuses/116721806090973504https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/wtrmt/statuses/116721806090973504Tue, 09 Jun 2026 19:30:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to you can't deny how useful they are!! on Tue, 09 Jun 2026 15:44:29 GMT]]>@tnorinder @jplebreton Even if they do create a superhuman intelligence at some point, do we really want a cheap temu superman raised in a Vought lab by people like Peter Thiel?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/su_liam/statuses/116720918162779655https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/su_liam/statuses/116720918162779655Tue, 09 Jun 2026 15:44:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to you can't deny how useful they are!! on Tue, 09 Jun 2026 15:41:52 GMT]]>@jplebreton Look at the amount of schlock floating around even when releases and usage were mid and reviews were at a peak. Now look at the Wall-E piles of garbage represented by current stats. Good luck finding the diamonds in that chaff, and even if you find one, will it be made by AI? I doubt it.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/su_liam/statuses/116720907905572019https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/su_liam/statuses/116720907905572019Tue, 09 Jun 2026 15:41:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to you can't deny how useful they are!! on Tue, 09 Jun 2026 13:19:41 GMT]]>@wendyhk nobody cares how you justify it to yourself, you're still making the world worse in multiple ways. go away.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/jplebreton/statuses/116720348798034369https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/jplebreton/statuses/116720348798034369Tue, 09 Jun 2026 13:19:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to you can't deny how useful they are!! on Tue, 09 Jun 2026 00:55:49 GMT]]>@hypolite sorry, won't do that again (probably)

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://dresden.network/users/dichotomiker/statuses/116717423772740894https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://dresden.network/users/dichotomiker/statuses/116717423772740894Tue, 09 Jun 2026 00:55:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to you can't deny how useful they are!! on Tue, 09 Jun 2026 00:09:22 GMT]]>@dichotomiker And now that it went through AI it's meaningless.]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://friendica.mrpetovan.com/objects/735a2029-116a-2759-b277-307367033709https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://friendica.mrpetovan.com/objects/735a2029-116a-2759-b277-307367033709Tue, 09 Jun 2026 00:09:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to you can't deny how useful they are!! on Tue, 09 Jun 2026 00:06:10 GMT]]>@hypolite I let Claude make a redo. (what happened 2024?)

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://dresden.network/users/dichotomiker/statuses/116717228536184903https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://dresden.network/users/dichotomiker/statuses/116717228536184903Tue, 09 Jun 2026 00:06:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to you can't deny how useful they are!! on Mon, 08 Jun 2026 23:47:51 GMT]]>@dichotomiker Good catch as well!]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://friendica.mrpetovan.com/objects/735a2029-586a-2754-a78b-830423104711https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://friendica.mrpetovan.com/objects/735a2029-586a-2754-a78b-830423104711Mon, 08 Jun 2026 23:47:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to you can't deny how useful they are!! on Mon, 08 Jun 2026 23:43:12 GMT]]>@hypolite Good point. But the count of apps with significant usage (across all apps) is a different scale.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://dresden.network/users/dichotomiker/statuses/116717138237472483https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://dresden.network/users/dichotomiker/statuses/116717138237472483Mon, 08 Jun 2026 23:43:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to you can't deny how useful they are!! on Mon, 08 Jun 2026 18:34:10 GMT]]>@jplebreton When I try to look project that claims to earn real money on vibe coding reddits, it's always shitty tools to help people to vibe code and sell an app / SAAS in a way or another.

I think it's really funny those are models for vibe coders thinking they are getting rich.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mamot.fr/users/sebbernery/statuses/116715923111615484https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mamot.fr/users/sebbernery/statuses/116715923111615484Mon, 08 Jun 2026 18:34:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to you can't deny how useful they are!! on Mon, 08 Jun 2026 16:03:52 GMT]]>@bri7 @oatmeal @jplebreton "Individual personal carbon footprint" is oil company propaganda - and that dismissal doesn't really apply here.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://eldritch.cafe/users/cassolotl/statuses/116715332086385121https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://eldritch.cafe/users/cassolotl/statuses/116715332086385121Mon, 08 Jun 2026 16:03:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to you can't deny how useful they are!! on Mon, 08 Jun 2026 15:54:53 GMT]]>@jplebreton

https://federate.social/@pgiulan/116709689035474167

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://federate.social/users/pgiulan/statuses/116715296774379191https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://federate.social/users/pgiulan/statuses/116715296774379191Mon, 08 Jun 2026 15:54:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to you can't deny how useful they are!! on Mon, 08 Jun 2026 15:28:45 GMT]]>@jplebreton @IngloGamesDev perhaps the app store checks have become more leniant
that would be an easy way to get these results

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://chaos.social/users/saxnot/statuses/116715193975752470https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://chaos.social/users/saxnot/statuses/116715193975752470Mon, 08 Jun 2026 15:28:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to you can't deny how useful they are!! on Mon, 08 Jun 2026 15:28:42 GMT]]>@dichotomiker It kind of already is since it's a graph of rates.]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://friendica.mrpetovan.com/objects/735a2029-126a-26df-aa63-256483338261https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://friendica.mrpetovan.com/objects/735a2029-126a-26df-aa63-256483338261Mon, 08 Jun 2026 15:28:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to you can't deny how useful they are!! on Mon, 08 Jun 2026 15:26:34 GMT]]>@jplebreton Log scale, please!

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://dresden.network/users/dichotomiker/statuses/116715185373392135https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://dresden.network/users/dichotomiker/statuses/116715185373392135Mon, 08 Jun 2026 15:26:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to you can't deny how useful they are!! on Mon, 08 Jun 2026 15:07:32 GMT]]>@morj_lecteur @jplebreton the same way a laxative boosts digestive productivity

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/patrick_h_lauke/statuses/116715110559061073https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/patrick_h_lauke/statuses/116715110559061073Mon, 08 Jun 2026 15:07:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to you can't deny how useful they are!! on Mon, 08 Jun 2026 14:31:45 GMT]]>@IngloGamesDev @jplebreton it does indicate that app engagement is getting lower. So AI can't be the all magical wonder tool that it's hyped to be, or it'd offset this downward trend. AI is at best... Meh.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/guigsy/statuses/116714969831597386https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/guigsy/statuses/116714969831597386Mon, 08 Jun 2026 14:31:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to you can't deny how useful they are!! on Mon, 08 Jun 2026 13:57:20 GMT]]>@jplebreton why buy the milk when the cow is free (for now)

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/bri7/statuses/116714834494671970https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/bri7/statuses/116714834494671970Mon, 08 Jun 2026 13:57:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to you can't deny how useful they are!! on Mon, 08 Jun 2026 13:13:42 GMT]]>@morj_lecteur @jplebreton imo, it only implies that LLMs boost programming output of garbage apps. The corresponding decrease in apps with significant usage could indicate users bouncing around from app to app, not finding anything better to settle on, but still displaced from long-time favorite apps as the whole software ecosystem loses stability to LLM cruft

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tech.lgbt/users/dotjayne/statuses/116714662947659000https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tech.lgbt/users/dotjayne/statuses/116714662947659000Mon, 08 Jun 2026 13:13:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to you can't deny how useful they are!! on Mon, 08 Jun 2026 12:01:48 GMT]]>@jplebreton I didn’t read yet but wonder if there’s a carbon footprint cost estimate to this flood of garbage (also I’d like to see how many exist only for demanding a monthly subscription).

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://kolektiva.social/users/oatmeal/statuses/116714380238823797https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://kolektiva.social/users/oatmeal/statuses/116714380238823797Mon, 08 Jun 2026 12:01:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to you can't deny how useful they are!! on Mon, 08 Jun 2026 11:47:42 GMT]]>@hypolite @morj_lecteur

Yeah the volume of apps would be going up faster than linear, since it's already a graph of rate. I feel like rate is the relevant measure since, per project, the absolute number of other apps that exist doesn't matter for how much easier it is to write one now.

The rate at which apps are being produced per month only seems to have gone up by x1.8. It might go higher, it might stabilise, it might fall again. I don't think it'll reach x10 any time soon.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.scot/users/petealexharris/statuses/116714324777909749https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.scot/users/petealexharris/statuses/116714324777909749Mon, 08 Jun 2026 11:47:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to you can't deny how useful they are!! on Mon, 08 Jun 2026 11:36:05 GMT]]>@petealexharris @morj_lecteur This graph shows the relative change, so the actual app volume chart would be a pretty fast exponential curve. Aside from that, I agree with your analysis.]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://friendica.mrpetovan.com/objects/735a2029-266a-26a9-25a7-8f9947526355https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://friendica.mrpetovan.com/objects/735a2029-266a-26a9-25a7-8f9947526355Mon, 08 Jun 2026 11:36:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to you can't deny how useful they are!! on Mon, 08 Jun 2026 11:07:39 GMT]]>@morj_lecteur @jplebreton

It's not impossible that it's helpful for some part of the process. Even conceding that, all the graph seems to show is a x1.8 not a x10. Which is not nothing, but not revolutionary.

The relative fall in apps with significant usage suggests usage is being spread out over a wider area but no significant new scope of usefulness has been discovered. Even if we get to x10 development, there aren't x10 use cases to apply it to and x10 income to attract.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.scot/users/petealexharris/statuses/116714167305107068https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.scot/users/petealexharris/statuses/116714167305107068Mon, 08 Jun 2026 11:07:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to you can't deny how useful they are!! on Mon, 08 Jun 2026 09:07:42 GMT]]>@jplebreton Most software ideas are not useful. Working very hard on an idea for a longer period of time is like vetting that idea. Now all dumb ideas can get some form of implementation.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/cupz/statuses/116713695666704423https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/cupz/statuses/116713695666704423Mon, 08 Jun 2026 09:07:42 GMT