<![CDATA[I dunno, *can* we build #European alternatives to #Facebook and co?]]>I dunno, *can* we build alternatives to and co?
The community managers are at it again with promoting the EU instance on !

PS: the community management team (that's my team) are up for an award. Any chance you'd give us a vote? Project 32 on this link: https://enonet.eu/survey/index.php/227332?lang=en

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/94c366d6-635e-44d1-9bf0-472932a793e9/i-dunno-can-we-build-european-alternatives-to-facebook-and-coRSS for NodeMon, 15 Jun 2026 22:21:02 GMTThu, 04 Jun 2026 09:48:02 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to I dunno, *can* we build #European alternatives to #Facebook and co? on Thu, 04 Jun 2026 11:55:41 GMT]]>@NatureMC @zompetto @hpod16 i'm not denying the aggression thing. It's just bad cause how do people expect artists to make money if they don't promote themselves!

now even though people want to buy from social media, instagram doesn't have a marketplace of its own, nor does it take any taxes for promotion. It's an advertising platform, not a marketplace. The same goes for every other platform excepting youtube and facebook. Facebook marketplace was designed to be a replacement for services like leboncoin. Since most of facebook's userbase is old, they decided to capitalize on that since most young people don't tend to buy old.

Literally no artist puts up their work on facebook marketplace and if they do, they advertise and send the user to another platform (patreon ko-fi etc), just how they do on insta, twitter etc

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://abc.clouderst.xyz/users/clouderst/statuses/01KT97TFEKACKWJ5ZENBSTHA1Xhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://abc.clouderst.xyz/users/clouderst/statuses/01KT97TFEKACKWJ5ZENBSTHA1XThu, 04 Jun 2026 11:55:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I dunno, *can* we build #European alternatives to #Facebook and co? on Thu, 04 Jun 2026 11:52:43 GMT]]>@hpod16 Yes, as long they don't bring the and shite over those places as well ! There are already very good alternatives to that don' t even require a phone number e.g. @session @Jami 🀘

People value their privacy, as long as it's that's the core you are developing around instead of abusing their data !

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/harib_murshidi/statuses/116691695293552858https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/harib_murshidi/statuses/116691695293552858Thu, 04 Jun 2026 11:52:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I dunno, *can* we build #European alternatives to #Facebook and co? on Thu, 04 Jun 2026 11:45:17 GMT]]>@hpod16
Depends. Do you defend the murderous border regime of the eu with its concentration camps and the support of the genocidal israeli state?

If no, I'd be interested.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.giftedmc.com/users/haui/statuses/116691666049192857https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.giftedmc.com/users/haui/statuses/116691666049192857Thu, 04 Jun 2026 11:45:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I dunno, *can* we build #European alternatives to #Facebook and co? on Thu, 04 Jun 2026 11:43:23 GMT]]>@hpod16 signed! 😁

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/connynasch/statuses/116691658568160602https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/connynasch/statuses/116691658568160602Thu, 04 Jun 2026 11:43:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I dunno, *can* we build #European alternatives to #Facebook and co? on Thu, 04 Jun 2026 11:22:24 GMT]]>@clouderst But the team that develops Mastodon is aware of it and they have good ideas. That takes time and costs money while big platforms have their billionaires. @zompetto @hpod16

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/NatureMC/statuses/116691576066305794https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/NatureMC/statuses/116691576066305794Thu, 04 Jun 2026 11:22:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I dunno, *can* we build #European alternatives to #Facebook and co? on Thu, 04 Jun 2026 11:18:25 GMT]]>@DiogoConstantino I think, "European" means the seat of the company, the legislation, the laws and regulations. And if you give the data to US clouds or in other dangerous places or place them in the EU. It's not about the internationality of a network.
@vladcampos @hpod16 @w3c

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/NatureMC/statuses/116691560414049241https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/NatureMC/statuses/116691560414049241Thu, 04 Jun 2026 11:18:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I dunno, *can* we build #European alternatives to #Facebook and co? on Thu, 04 Jun 2026 11:17:30 GMT]]>@hpod16

Erledigt βœ…

Danke fΓΌr deine Arbeit! πŸ‘

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.tchncs.de/users/Bodo/statuses/116691556769753568https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.tchncs.de/users/Bodo/statuses/116691556769753568Thu, 04 Jun 2026 11:17:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I dunno, *can* we build #European alternatives to #Facebook and co? on Thu, 04 Jun 2026 11:13:17 GMT]]>@clouderst The problem is that people want to buy directly from social media. They want to buy a piece that their favourite artist shows, they don't search leboncoin for it. A lot of people are only on Insta because it's an important part for earning their life. And Mastodon is still no alternative (many artist get aggressed for posting their shop links). Leboncoin is good to sell an old table ...

@zompetto @hpod16

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/NatureMC/statuses/116691540202711164https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/NatureMC/statuses/116691540202711164Thu, 04 Jun 2026 11:13:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I dunno, *can* we build #European alternatives to #Facebook and co? on Thu, 04 Jun 2026 11:07:48 GMT]]>@luca @zompetto @hpod16 @_elena

How "usable" is by now? Does anybody know?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/christopherstark/statuses/116691518621116379https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/christopherstark/statuses/116691518621116379Thu, 04 Jun 2026 11:07:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I dunno, *can* we build #European alternatives to #Facebook and co? on Thu, 04 Jun 2026 10:55:29 GMT]]>@hpod16 done βœ…

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.vivaldi.net/ap/users/116166150929651551/statuses/116691470236049343https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.vivaldi.net/ap/users/116166150929651551/statuses/116691470236049343Thu, 04 Jun 2026 10:55:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I dunno, *can* we build #European alternatives to #Facebook and co? on Thu, 04 Jun 2026 10:48:11 GMT]]>@vladcampos I'm not anti-european, I'm pro focusing on what will make Europe good, and not just surrender to ideas that imply stop thinking about what makes it good, and what can makes it better.

@hpod16 @w3c

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://masto.pt/users/DiogoConstantino/statuses/116691441543007095https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://masto.pt/users/DiogoConstantino/statuses/116691441543007095Thu, 04 Jun 2026 10:48:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I dunno, *can* we build #European alternatives to #Facebook and co? on Thu, 04 Jun 2026 10:44:46 GMT]]>@vladcampos
So as tech users we should focus on what realy gives us rights, like Free Software/Open Source Software, no matter where that is made, and also jurisdiction when it's about services, but not because of patriotism, but concretely first because of the Law and how well it protects the people and then the economy and how well it can serve the people's wellbeing and the service sustainability..

@hpod16
@w3c

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://masto.pt/users/DiogoConstantino/statuses/116691428097932503https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://masto.pt/users/DiogoConstantino/statuses/116691428097932503Thu, 04 Jun 2026 10:44:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I dunno, *can* we build #European alternatives to #Facebook and co? on Thu, 04 Jun 2026 10:39:02 GMT]]>@zompetto @hpod16

Friendica, would be the fediverse alternave to Facebook, giving the possibility to have private groups.

Here an article from (of course) @_elena

https://blog.elenarossini.com/the-future-of-social-is-here-a-show-and-tell-part-3-friendica/

There are not that many instances, unfortunately

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sironi.xyz/ap/users/115700305018001936/statuses/116691405548225485https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sironi.xyz/ap/users/115700305018001936/statuses/116691405548225485Thu, 04 Jun 2026 10:39:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I dunno, *can* we build #European alternatives to #Facebook and co? on Thu, 04 Jun 2026 10:38:01 GMT]]>@vladcampos
What serves the public over time is guarantying them rights over software and technology. Sometimes certain jurisdictions do it better than others, this is true, but that is circunstancial, as we can see with the Commission multiple pushes for Chat Control for more than 10 years, the curent plans to weaken GDPR and other regulations to please Trumpf and Big Tech.

@hpod16 @w3c

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://masto.pt/users/DiogoConstantino/statuses/116691401556241247https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://masto.pt/users/DiogoConstantino/statuses/116691401556241247Thu, 04 Jun 2026 10:38:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I dunno, *can* we build #European alternatives to #Facebook and co? on Thu, 04 Jun 2026 10:35:13 GMT]]>@hpod16 use open source like mastodon. We don't want a facebook because facebook is crap. always has been. build on what's there. It works just fine. Add your support to the development of open source solutions that are already in existence. That'll make them even better. help @dansup make pixelfed even better, there you have your Instagram. Work with the democratically minded parts of EU software development that are already on it for many years, and reflect all our positive values.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.de/users/Tamtam/statuses/116691390517431410https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.de/users/Tamtam/statuses/116691390517431410Thu, 04 Jun 2026 10:35:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I dunno, *can* we build #European alternatives to #Facebook and co? on Thu, 04 Jun 2026 10:34:00 GMT]]>@vladcampos so is making them specifically "European", whatever that means in a world were software development is more often than not, developed using off-shored and out-sourced teams from all over the globe, using development tools and software libraries, and online services that are even more developed by a global coalition of contributors. Attributing nationality hides this people work, to serve silly and missguided goals.

@hpod16 @w3c

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://masto.pt/users/DiogoConstantino/statuses/116691385756574239https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://masto.pt/users/DiogoConstantino/statuses/116691385756574239Thu, 04 Jun 2026 10:34:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I dunno, *can* we build #European alternatives to #Facebook and co? on Thu, 04 Jun 2026 10:33:44 GMT]]>@hpod16 sure. Done.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/115958163105799089/statuses/116691384665328906https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/115958163105799089/statuses/116691384665328906Thu, 04 Jun 2026 10:33:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I dunno, *can* we build #European alternatives to #Facebook and co? on Thu, 04 Jun 2026 10:10:22 GMT]]>@hpod16 Focusing on building new platforms is a huge distraction. Mastodon is open source and is a @w3c protocol. Everything is already in place. It's just a matter of people posting or adopting the protocol on their current social tools. I don't think anything else has to be built. If institutions AND real people, MPs for example, start posting for real, that will create momentum.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/vladcampos/statuses/116691292839589139https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/vladcampos/statuses/116691292839589139Thu, 04 Jun 2026 10:10:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I dunno, *can* we build #European alternatives to #Facebook and co? on Thu, 04 Jun 2026 10:01:34 GMT]]>@hpod16 I already wondered who makes this good work! (Clicks link).

I think one problem is that people await a 1:1 copy of these platforms, but why should we imitate them with all their inherent bad sides? FB's strength are their groups where people can talk with their whole village or meet all gardeners of their region. Easy, intuitive for absolute non-techies. I can't do that in the Fediverse. But we don't need a FB clone to invent such places.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/NatureMC/statuses/116691258238737018https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/NatureMC/statuses/116691258238737018Thu, 04 Jun 2026 10:01:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I dunno, *can* we build #European alternatives to #Facebook and co? on Thu, 04 Jun 2026 10:00:54 GMT]]>@zompetto @hpod16 we do have marketplace alternatives! They usually vary by regions and countries. For example, you have ebay, which is the biggest, but in france, you may use leboncoin, while in some eastern european countries and netherlands there's the olx giant. At least in romania olx is the most popular, the oldest and the main reason why facebook marketplace didn't really take off here

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://abc.clouderst.xyz/users/clouderst/statuses/01KT9189BK8P6D7EFQV4MVARY1https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://abc.clouderst.xyz/users/clouderst/statuses/01KT9189BK8P6D7EFQV4MVARY1Thu, 04 Jun 2026 10:00:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I dunno, *can* we build #European alternatives to #Facebook and co? on Thu, 04 Jun 2026 09:59:22 GMT]]>@hpod16 Thought that was the case but wanted to clarify.

If you'll excuse me, I have a "vote" to cast β˜‘οΈ

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tech.lgbt/users/distinctdipole/statuses/116691249589239159https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tech.lgbt/users/distinctdipole/statuses/116691249589239159Thu, 04 Jun 2026 09:59:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I dunno, *can* we build #European alternatives to #Facebook and co? on Thu, 04 Jun 2026 09:58:03 GMT]]>@distinctdipole I thiiiink so. It's not like the where you have to be a citizen to vote. This is just about a prize for my team, not major EU policy.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://eupolicy.social/ap/users/115922644776520432/statuses/116691244400608974https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://eupolicy.social/ap/users/115922644776520432/statuses/116691244400608974Thu, 04 Jun 2026 09:58:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I dunno, *can* we build #European alternatives to #Facebook and co? on Thu, 04 Jun 2026 09:56:26 GMT]]>@zompetto
Yeah, I mean the answer is phrased pretty broadly on purpose. Mastodon isn't the solution for all this, but I like to promote the EU mastodon account whenever I can.

(I'm trying to get it into the top 10 most followed (active) accounts on fedi, grinding away over here...)

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://eupolicy.social/ap/users/115922644776520432/statuses/116691238054504239https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://eupolicy.social/ap/users/115922644776520432/statuses/116691238054504239Thu, 04 Jun 2026 09:56:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I dunno, *can* we build #European alternatives to #Facebook and co? on Thu, 04 Jun 2026 09:56:06 GMT]]>@hpod16 Can non-EU citizens vote in the award survey?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tech.lgbt/users/distinctdipole/statuses/116691236694239472https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tech.lgbt/users/distinctdipole/statuses/116691236694239472Thu, 04 Jun 2026 09:56:06 GMT