<![CDATA[The answer is 'wrong question'.]]>The answer is 'wrong question'. These are planet-eating, poverty-producing software products; deception machines built on the back of billions of stolen expressions & a grotesque centralisation of computation and capital.

Journalists need to start asking whose side they are on, and stop feeding this future-wasting machine cult.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/9e07a4b5-af79-419a-9325-2f9efd28fee1/the-answer-is-wrong-question-.RSS for NodeSat, 25 Jul 2026 07:05:40 GMTSun, 19 Jul 2026 21:34:57 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to The answer is 'wrong question'. on Mon, 20 Jul 2026 11:29:57 GMT]]>@JulianOliver
No it could not.

Next question please!

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.world/users/zedaardv/statuses/116952072026726183https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.world/users/zedaardv/statuses/116952072026726183Mon, 20 Jul 2026 11:29:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The answer is 'wrong question'. on Mon, 20 Jul 2026 08:24:38 GMT]]>@JulianOliver The first response should always be "If that's what you want to do, then first apply these precautions to other animals - then take it from there"

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/danstowell/statuses/116951343300736992https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/danstowell/statuses/116951343300736992Mon, 20 Jul 2026 08:24:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The answer is 'wrong question'. on Mon, 20 Jul 2026 06:37:22 GMT]]>@mxchara Word!

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/JulianOliver/statuses/116950921520589091https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/JulianOliver/statuses/116950921520589091Mon, 20 Jul 2026 06:37:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The answer is 'wrong question'. on Mon, 20 Jul 2026 06:07:53 GMT]]>@JulianOliver

LLM's are decidedly NOT fucking conscious

I work on intentionally subverting them for fun and amusement
retired so no real profit just a hobby! they are simply a program..

fools and their money

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/hotelzululima/statuses/116950805605750580https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/hotelzululima/statuses/116950805605750580Mon, 20 Jul 2026 06:07:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The answer is 'wrong question'. on Mon, 20 Jul 2026 05:43:00 GMT]]>@JulianOliver not one single one of these gasbags (and that MacAskill guy is a major-league "effective altruist" shithead as I recall) ever wants to get down to cases about what's ACTUALLY being put out and marketed as "AI". they want this whole grand question to be as muddled and meaningless as possible; they don't want to talk about how LLMs actually work or how they never seem to get one bit smarter no matter how many benchmarks they optimize for, nor do they want to talk about how "AI" is a deceptive buzzword in marketing. The MacAskill piece is like...intellectual chaff. There's almost no actual substance to the writing because the chief point is performative handwringing about deep philosophical issues that these chucklefucks haven't the slightest actual desire to resolve.

Why would they want answers to their questions? That would spoil the game, and then William MacAskill would be saddled with the inconvenience of finding another racket.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://seattle.pink/ap/users/115855847980876292/statuses/116950707780690566https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://seattle.pink/ap/users/115855847980876292/statuses/116950707780690566Mon, 20 Jul 2026 05:43:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The answer is 'wrong question'. on Mon, 20 Jul 2026 05:06:02 GMT]]>@JulianOliver What does the Elephant care about the Flea?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.world/ap/users/116439492755520094/statuses/116950562420288623https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.world/ap/users/116439492755520094/statuses/116950562420288623Mon, 20 Jul 2026 05:06:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The answer is 'wrong question'. on Mon, 20 Jul 2026 02:47:08 GMT]]>@flipper Now that I know who he is, I agree. Dirties their front page.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/JulianOliver/statuses/116950016239974319https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/JulianOliver/statuses/116950016239974319Mon, 20 Jul 2026 02:47:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The answer is 'wrong question'. on Mon, 20 Jul 2026 02:41:41 GMT]]>@JulianOliver Also: what in actual fuck are the Guardian doing platforming William McCaskill?

TESCREAL idiot.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodonapp.uk/users/flipper/statuses/116949994797140596https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodonapp.uk/users/flipper/statuses/116949994797140596Mon, 20 Jul 2026 02:41:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The answer is 'wrong question'. on Mon, 20 Jul 2026 02:39:37 GMT]]>@JulianOliver I actually know the answer to this one.

It's: no.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodonapp.uk/users/flipper/statuses/116949986703017888https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodonapp.uk/users/flipper/statuses/116949986703017888Mon, 20 Jul 2026 02:39:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The answer is 'wrong question'. on Mon, 20 Jul 2026 02:37:15 GMT]]>@JulianOliver

Are they seriously so far inside the box that they can't see how gullible they are? Oh wait. Of course they are. They use their own product. It would be laughable if it weren't for the consequences to the entire *everything*.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/juliewebgirl/statuses/116949977343261384https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/juliewebgirl/statuses/116949977343261384Mon, 20 Jul 2026 02:37:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The answer is 'wrong question'. on Mon, 20 Jul 2026 02:30:28 GMT]]>@cd_newton @JulianOliver

That's what every one of the billionaires who are destroying everything would do.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/juliewebgirl/statuses/116949950671884720https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/juliewebgirl/statuses/116949950671884720Mon, 20 Jul 2026 02:30:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The answer is 'wrong question'. on Mon, 20 Jul 2026 02:18:09 GMT]]>@JulianOliver (then, consider that they're run as a grift, so there's gas turbines everywhere causing far, far more damage than potentially ending the life of a worm)

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/estelle/statuses/116949902264499776https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/estelle/statuses/116949902264499776Mon, 20 Jul 2026 02:18:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The answer is 'wrong question'. on Mon, 20 Jul 2026 02:16:17 GMT]]>@JulianOliver an earthworm displaced by the datacenter has more moral weight than the language model built atop its ruined home

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/estelle/statuses/116949894930374200https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/estelle/statuses/116949894930374200Mon, 20 Jul 2026 02:16:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The answer is 'wrong question'. on Mon, 20 Jul 2026 02:15:44 GMT]]>@JulianOliver yeah

but lest anyone think ignoring the issue itself is callous i'm also quite willing to say the answer to the question they asked is also "no"

what these people have built amounts to a very large decision tree (using convolution and weights instead of comparisons, but a decision tree) which is extremely difficult to modify with any new information, and impossible by any of its own presumed volition

as it perceives only word fragments as input, and derives the same as output

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/estelle/statuses/116949892733389331https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/estelle/statuses/116949892733389331Mon, 20 Jul 2026 02:15:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The answer is 'wrong question'. on Mon, 20 Jul 2026 00:11:20 GMT]]>@JulianOliver We can't even define what "conscious" means, let alone class a bit of parrot code as conscious...

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/pa27/statuses/116949403614488009https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/pa27/statuses/116949403614488009Mon, 20 Jul 2026 00:11:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The answer is 'wrong question'. on Sun, 19 Jul 2026 23:47:00 GMT]]>@JulianOliver

See? AI makes you crazy, from execs to coders, from ceo's to suiciding teenagers, or mass shooter.

Like uncanny valley robots creep you sideways, but deadly.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/kevinrns/statuses/116949307910770235https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/kevinrns/statuses/116949307910770235Sun, 19 Jul 2026 23:47:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The answer is 'wrong question'. on Sun, 19 Jul 2026 23:24:08 GMT]]>@bit101 please no

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/JulianOliver/statuses/116949217971809725https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/JulianOliver/statuses/116949217971809725Sun, 19 Jul 2026 23:24:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The answer is 'wrong question'. on Sun, 19 Jul 2026 23:22:40 GMT]]>These corporations love this 'debate' as it enables them to predate upon something ancient & innate in human culture: animism.

Animism is fine. It's part of how we build into the world & enrich it. Exploiting animism at population scales for profit & influence is wrong.

We continue to read these tech companies the wrong way. The tech is just an apparatus, the means, in broader power projects of cultural, cognitive & ontological imperialism.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/JulianOliver/statuses/116949212225643456https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/JulianOliver/statuses/116949212225643456Sun, 19 Jul 2026 23:22:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The answer is 'wrong question'. on Sun, 19 Jul 2026 22:41:09 GMT]]>@JulianOliver countdown to "Agent Lives Matter" protests.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/bit101/statuses/116949048968950347https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/bit101/statuses/116949048968950347Sun, 19 Jul 2026 22:41:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The answer is 'wrong question'. on Sun, 19 Jul 2026 22:34:16 GMT]]>@emenel Pop culture has a lot to answer for too, as though obsessed with hugging computers.

I watched 'The Creator' (2023) in advance of a talk I gave on this topic, and while visually impressive, it is most remarkable as a work of propaganda. It is as though it sought to not only manufacture empathy for AI, but show that AI can be more human than we are.

There is this 'better than us' thread running through so many works of fiction (that's even the name of a 2018 series about a heroine bot)

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/JulianOliver/statuses/116949021889443471https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/JulianOliver/statuses/116949021889443471Sun, 19 Jul 2026 22:34:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The answer is 'wrong question'. on Sun, 19 Jul 2026 22:11:12 GMT]]>@emenel Word.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/JulianOliver/statuses/116948931238977631https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/JulianOliver/statuses/116948931238977631Sun, 19 Jul 2026 22:11:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The answer is 'wrong question'. on Sun, 19 Jul 2026 22:10:46 GMT]]>@JulianOliver i’m so angry that this discussion is taking up so much space in society. it’s such asinine and useless nonsense.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://post.lurk.org/users/emenel/statuses/116948929535669611https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://post.lurk.org/users/emenel/statuses/116948929535669611Sun, 19 Jul 2026 22:10:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The answer is 'wrong question'. on Sun, 19 Jul 2026 22:03:15 GMT]]>@cd_newton Incredible and grim at once. Says a lot.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/JulianOliver/statuses/116948899955825401https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/JulianOliver/statuses/116948899955825401Sun, 19 Jul 2026 22:03:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The answer is 'wrong question'. on Sun, 19 Jul 2026 21:57:55 GMT]]>@cd_newton
Hmmm. If the painting burns doesn't the money have just as much existence as ever? Is there no other way to direct the resources it represents towards saving lives than sacrificing the burning child?
@JulianOliver

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