<![CDATA[Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS:]]>Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS:

https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/31697-myhyundai-app-has-official-grapheneos-support

Pressure from Volkswagen customers on them can achieve the same thing. There's no legitimate reason to ban GrapheneOS so they'll undo it with pressure.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/a37730f2-6896-4b64-b5f7-ad7d59815849/hyundai-and-kia-added-official-grapheneos-support-to-their-apps-months-before-volkswagen-banned-grapheneosRSS for NodeFri, 26 Jun 2026 04:56:02 GMTWed, 24 Jun 2026 17:53:36 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS: on Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:38:20 GMT]]>@zm@kolektiva.social

@GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social

Everything involves a lawyer and lobbiests. Does googleโ€™s APIs count as a monopoly in your country - that is the first place I would look. However you are looking at large lawyer bills to prove it.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fedia.io/m/random/p/6074498/-/reply/4695109https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fedia.io/m/random/p/6074498/-/reply/4695109Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:38:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS: on Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:27:06 GMT]]>@GrapheneOS
More generally, the point of this kind of attestation in the general public is always to enforce developer's interests *against* the user. Often also anti-competitive. Even if they supported GrapheneOS at some point, general OS development would still be blocked. And even you as GrapheneOS would make yourselves dependent: They can always threaten you to withdraw attestation if they don't like your future plans for even better privacy protection against their abuse.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://muenchen.social/users/thomas/statuses/116806964093611869https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://muenchen.social/users/thomas/statuses/116806964093611869Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:27:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS: on Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:20:46 GMT]]>@GrapheneOS Done ๐Ÿ˜‰

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/Alex2ander/statuses/116806939236269729https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/Alex2ander/statuses/116806939236269729Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:20:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS: on Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:20:37 GMT]]>@GrapheneOS Hi Team,
Please reconsider your Play Integrity API policy to allow secure custom operating systems like GrapheneOS.
GrapheneOS fully supports hardware-backed remote attestation and production-signed builds. It is often more secure than stock Android. Relying on strict Google integrity tiers blocks privacy-conscious users while creating a false sense of security, as it doesn't guarantee a vulnerability-free device.
Please adjust your app policy to permit verified, secure hardware.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/Alex2ander/statuses/116806938612199141https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/Alex2ander/statuses/116806938612199141Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:20:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS: on Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:17:32 GMT]]>@GrapheneOS
Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS:

I honestly do not care about VW, my last customer experience was utterly horrific.

That company, Never ever again.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.scot/users/Kerplunk/statuses/116806926491514930https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.scot/users/Kerplunk/statuses/116806926491514930Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:17:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS: on Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:09:23 GMT]]>@GrapheneOS Looking forward to see what comes from your work with Motorola (current and past phone have been Motorola for last nine years).

Interested to hear what other collaborations are in the pipeline too.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/slackline/statuses/116806894451295494https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/slackline/statuses/116806894451295494Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:09:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS: on Wed, 24 Jun 2026 19:55:03 GMT]]>@GrapheneOS Done โœ…

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/Alex2ander/statuses/116806838089542748https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/Alex2ander/statuses/116806838089542748Wed, 24 Jun 2026 19:55:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS: on Wed, 24 Jun 2026 19:53:18 GMT]]>@GrapheneOS
Yes! GrapheneOS is great! The Team behind it too... But it is good to mention, that it is AOSP based... And AOSP code is not just 15 people work.
Simmilar to OxygenOS or NothingOS. It is more like distribution than the separate OS. Realy good, polished and hardened distribution of Android.
GrapheneOS, OnePlus or Nothing are still havy based on AOSP and the changes/patches that are for all Android OS'es and that are not a result of only 15 people work.
P. S. I apriciate your work!

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/wod0bow/statuses/116806831186852741https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/wod0bow/statuses/116806831186852741Wed, 24 Jun 2026 19:53:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS: on Wed, 24 Jun 2026 19:46:37 GMT]]>@GrapheneOS they lost a potential customer.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/donamasta/statuses/116806804947131631https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/donamasta/statuses/116806804947131631Wed, 24 Jun 2026 19:46:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS: on Wed, 24 Jun 2026 19:04:40 GMT]]>@skyblitz @GrapheneOS

Spotify isn't blocked or anything, but I just don't exactly know what it is.

This windows shows up the moment I hit play.

Lately, I've been thinking about deleting Spotify and use NextCloud music instead.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.fraxoweb.com/ap/users/116500062921228850/statuses/116806639962096729https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.fraxoweb.com/ap/users/116500062921228850/statuses/116806639962096729Wed, 24 Jun 2026 19:04:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS: on Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:45:49 GMT]]>@GrapheneOS oh snap thanks for sharing! This is literally the rain I stopped using custom ROMs for a few years

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://indieweb.social/users/McNeely/statuses/116806565825582644https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://indieweb.social/users/McNeely/statuses/116806565825582644Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:45:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS: on Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:45:41 GMT]]>@GrapheneOS
I think you might have answered this before, but is there any way to make your OS look different to applications to circumvent the ban?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://kolektiva.social/users/zm/statuses/116806565317918309https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://kolektiva.social/users/zm/statuses/116806565317918309Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:45:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS: on Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:34:50 GMT]]>@GrapheneOS Done.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tooting.ch/users/mastoli/statuses/116806522644727680https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tooting.ch/users/mastoli/statuses/116806522644727680Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:34:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS: on Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:34:22 GMT]]>@spacebug @GrapheneOS I will if it persists, just haven't had time

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/ellsinger/statuses/116806520834924234https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/ellsinger/statuses/116806520834924234Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:34:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS: on Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:33:43 GMT]]>@ellsinger @GrapheneOS maybe contact Kia about it? Might be a bug or something else not intended]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://n4.mikronod.se/objects/b747f9ca-0949-49f8-b512-dbd4be9caeb7https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://n4.mikronod.se/objects/b747f9ca-0949-49f8-b512-dbd4be9caeb7Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:33:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS: on Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:31:55 GMT]]>@GrapheneOS done

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.tchncs.de/users/sebeichholz/statuses/116806511210686230https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.tchncs.de/users/sebeichholz/statuses/116806511210686230Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:31:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS: on Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:21:13 GMT]]>@GrapheneOS latest update to the kia app that is

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/ellsinger/statuses/116806469113863202https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/ellsinger/statuses/116806469113863202Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:21:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS: on Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:20:56 GMT]]>@GrapheneOS Kia app stopped working on graphene after the latest update though ๐Ÿ˜•

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/ellsinger/statuses/116806467995484930https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/ellsinger/statuses/116806467995484930Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:20:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS: on Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:18:22 GMT]]>@GrapheneOS

I don't use much and I'm even thinking about deleting my account soon

But lately, I've noticed this little "Play Integrity API usage" window whenever I use Spotify on GrapheneOS

Is this something to be worried about?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.fraxoweb.com/ap/users/116500062921228850/statuses/116806457939587267https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.fraxoweb.com/ap/users/116500062921228850/statuses/116806457939587267Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:18:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS: on Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:14:33 GMT]]>GrapheneOS is production quality OS from a non-profit paying around 15 people to work on it. It's far more secure than anything supported by the Play Integrity API. We have an official partnership with Motorola and we'll have more. Just counter template responses and insist on compensation or a fix.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://grapheneos.social/users/GrapheneOS/statuses/116806442935297291https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://grapheneos.social/users/GrapheneOS/statuses/116806442935297291Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:14:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS: on Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:11:19 GMT]]>A bunch of apps have added explicit support for GrapheneOS due to pressure from our users. Our userbase is rapidly growing and we'll gain the ability to apply massive pressure to companies doing this. We plan to ship a feature for our Info app for people to opt-in to getting asked for their help.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://grapheneos.social/users/GrapheneOS/statuses/116806430177258899https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://grapheneos.social/users/GrapheneOS/statuses/116806430177258899Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:11:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS: on Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:10:06 GMT]]>They can trivially stop enforcing the anti-security and anti-competitive Play Integrity API or easily add hardware-based verification of GrapheneOS. Link to https://grapheneos.org/articles/attestation-compatibility-guide in the customer support request, but don't add any links to Play Store reviews to avoid filtering.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://grapheneos.social/users/GrapheneOS/statuses/116806425402938698https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://grapheneos.social/users/GrapheneOS/statuses/116806425402938698Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:10:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS: on Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:08:50 GMT]]>@GrapheneOS

Oh and also funnily Volkswagen is listed as one of the customers of NitroKey, so their execs probably at least already know the company name. Therefore you've basically already a foot in the door that way too.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://chaos.social/users/agowa338/statuses/116806420407221847https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://chaos.social/users/agowa338/statuses/116806420407221847Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:08:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS: on Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:07:28 GMT]]>Every GrapheneOS user with one of their cars using the app should file a customer support request. Keep answering them and countering the template responses. Escalate the request higher up. Tell them you want money back for the vehicle due to reduced functionality after the fact and insist on it.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://grapheneos.social/users/GrapheneOS/statuses/116806415056335941https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://grapheneos.social/users/GrapheneOS/statuses/116806415056335941Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:07:28 GMT