<![CDATA[This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet:]]>This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet:

Excel has global undo/redo, so if you work on multiple files and hit undo a few times. it may change things in a different file. Good luck reconstructing that, if you don't immediately notice.

An absurd design decision imo

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/b18fc415-492a-4157-85f4-da5f182f3d38/this-might-be-the-funniest-ms-office-thing-i-have-encountered-yetRSS for NodeSun, 12 Jul 2026 11:10:32 GMTWed, 08 Jul 2026 13:00:18 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet: on Thu, 09 Jul 2026 04:24:01 GMT]]>@landelare

Very fair point 😂.

@aesthr

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://helvede.net/users/tofticles/statuses/116888111768035272https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://helvede.net/users/tofticles/statuses/116888111768035272Thu, 09 Jul 2026 04:24:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet: on Thu, 09 Jul 2026 04:17:30 GMT]]>@aesthr@wandering.shop

I am professionally certified to use Microsoft Office (have the papers to prove it and all) and if you can believe it, this is somehow not the most batshit insane design decision that this accursed suite has.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://app.wafrn.net/fediverse/post/82af6641-0235-4462-bec1-a7cc13aee2d9https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://app.wafrn.net/fediverse/post/82af6641-0235-4462-bec1-a7cc13aee2d9Thu, 09 Jul 2026 04:17:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet: on Thu, 09 Jul 2026 02:29:53 GMT]]>@aesthr
Do Word and PowerPoint also have global undo/redo? Would be wild for different programs in the Office suite to have different behaviors, but at this point it wouldn't surprise me.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mspsocial.net/users/ianrbuck/statuses/116887663006710027https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mspsocial.net/users/ianrbuck/statuses/116887663006710027Thu, 09 Jul 2026 02:29:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet: on Thu, 09 Jul 2026 00:44:37 GMT]]>@aesthr @FreakyFwoof I just ran into this yesterday. It’s.a good thing I caught it in time, and I could fix it by just hitting control+y enough times.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://dragonscave.space/users/cj/statuses/116887249062365867https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://dragonscave.space/users/cj/statuses/116887249062365867Thu, 09 Jul 2026 00:44:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet: on Thu, 09 Jul 2026 00:36:26 GMT]]>@Sablebadger @aesthr

Thank you for trying.

The decision actually made me close all other documents before using undo function in Excel, just to be sure. Definitely reduces usability.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.tchncs.de/ap/users/115788169843336614/statuses/116887216870906179https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.tchncs.de/ap/users/115788169843336614/statuses/116887216870906179Thu, 09 Jul 2026 00:36:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet: on Wed, 08 Jul 2026 23:57:20 GMT]]>@aesthr This has given me countless days of swearing. It is no fun at all watching complex charts or long formula strings vanishing before your eyes.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116270646071601977/statuses/116887063127881859https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116270646071601977/statuses/116887063127881859Wed, 08 Jul 2026 23:57:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet: on Wed, 08 Jul 2026 23:29:49 GMT]]>@aesthr in like 30 years of using Word I have never noticed this! Is it new?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://beige.party/users/ShiitakeToast/statuses/116886954942616511https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://beige.party/users/ShiitakeToast/statuses/116886954942616511Wed, 08 Jul 2026 23:29:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet: on Wed, 08 Jul 2026 23:06:38 GMT]]>@nuintari because shit is always the standard.
@aesthr

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/diekehrseite/statuses/116886863789712572https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/diekehrseite/statuses/116886863789712572Wed, 08 Jul 2026 23:06:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet: on Wed, 08 Jul 2026 21:59:43 GMT]]>@tofticles @aesthr I should've been clearer, by "more" I didn't mean it actually made sense, only that it was marginally less stupid.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/landelare/statuses/116886600618862223https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/landelare/statuses/116886600618862223Wed, 08 Jul 2026 21:59:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet: on Wed, 08 Jul 2026 21:52:54 GMT]]>@vick21 @FreakyFwoof fun fact: Excel does have that these days. But it's not super helpful because it's a long list of changes across multiple documents but each change just says the cell coordinates, not the document it occurred in

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://wandering.shop/users/aesthr/statuses/116886573863055487https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://wandering.shop/users/aesthr/statuses/116886573863055487Wed, 08 Jul 2026 21:52:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet: on Wed, 08 Jul 2026 21:39:15 GMT]]>@aesthr @FreakyFwoof This is why the tools should definitely have an "undo history” or show you what you are undoing!

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/vick21/statuses/116886520162120072https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/vick21/statuses/116886520162120072Wed, 08 Jul 2026 21:39:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet: on Wed, 08 Jul 2026 21:36:44 GMT]]>@aesthr Next month Microsoft will release a feature that finds Word documents written by other people at your org who relied on the numbers in your spreadsheet. Then, if you undo in your spreadsheet, Copilot will go adjust the text their documents too.

(And now you have to go do an internet search and try to figure out whether I made that up or if it’s real!)

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/paco/statuses/116886510300828088https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/paco/statuses/116886510300828088Wed, 08 Jul 2026 21:36:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet: on Wed, 08 Jul 2026 21:29:31 GMT]]>@aesthr It took me some afternoons, but in the end, I understood Typst better than I ever understood my LaTeX templates which were full of stuff I found on obscure discussion forums and stack overflow and I was never sure why it works the intended way, especially in the area of handling czech characters 😅

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://gts.eilhart.cz/users/kayla/statuses/01KX1T5MCBWD1F6THVN4B4GEHMhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://gts.eilhart.cz/users/kayla/statuses/01KX1T5MCBWD1F6THVN4B4GEHMWed, 08 Jul 2026 21:29:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet: on Wed, 08 Jul 2026 21:22:02 GMT]]>@aesthr

They could just stop changing the fucking program

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://chattrbx.com/ap/users/116013283111789870/statuses/116886452489072913https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://chattrbx.com/ap/users/116013283111789870/statuses/116886452489072913Wed, 08 Jul 2026 21:22:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet: on Wed, 08 Jul 2026 20:53:25 GMT]]>@aesthr wtf

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mspsocial.net/users/june/statuses/116886339932742864https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mspsocial.net/users/june/statuses/116886339932742864Wed, 08 Jul 2026 20:53:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet: on Wed, 08 Jul 2026 20:37:55 GMT]]>@aesthr perfect complement to the feature where moving a picture slightly reformats the whole room and starts fires in the next town

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/ferrix/statuses/116886279000944369https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/ferrix/statuses/116886279000944369Wed, 08 Jul 2026 20:37:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet: on Wed, 08 Jul 2026 20:03:35 GMT]]>@landelare

Even in MDI, I'd have assumed that undo was only for whichever sheet/workbook I was in...

@aesthr

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://helvede.net/users/tofticles/statuses/116886143994745389https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://helvede.net/users/tofticles/statuses/116886143994745389Wed, 08 Jul 2026 20:03:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet: on Wed, 08 Jul 2026 20:03:02 GMT]]>@aesthr
It should be on just the document that has focus.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://toot.community/users/geos/statuses/116886141835070002https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://toot.community/users/geos/statuses/116886141835070002Wed, 08 Jul 2026 20:03:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet: on Wed, 08 Jul 2026 20:00:41 GMT]]>@aesthr ZOMGWTFBBQ.....

How is this shit the "standard"?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/users/nuintari/statuses/116886132606751668https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/users/nuintari/statuses/116886132606751668Wed, 08 Jul 2026 20:00:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet: on Wed, 08 Jul 2026 19:48:50 GMT]]>@aesthr

I understand why, and if you don’t want to be traumatised, I suggest you stop reading now.

A spreadsheet is not actually the document unit for Excel. Any open sheet can refer to cells in any other open sheet (hmm, I wonder if anyone has exploited that with sheets that fetch from external data sources to extract other information). By default, any cell reference is in the current sheet, but you can include other files by name and their cells will be used but only if they are open. This means that any editing operation may affect any other open sheets and so, logically, it follows that undo should apply to the document (all open sheets) and not simply one sheet.

This is also why Excel does not let you open two sheets with the same file name at the same time. If you do, cross-sheet references would be ambiguous. Remember, they don’t refer to files as paths or some kind of unique document identifier, they reference other sheets by file name from the set of open files.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/david_chisnall/statuses/116886085989902239https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/david_chisnall/statuses/116886085989902239Wed, 08 Jul 2026 19:48:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet: on Wed, 08 Jul 2026 19:45:52 GMT]]>@c0dec0dec0de @aesthr @tante Yea, looks like they made Excel into a single context, with each open file in that one context. Which probably makes it easier to do cross-file stuff, but the cost in user surprise is way too high.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/mhkohne/statuses/116886074317877422https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/mhkohne/statuses/116886074317877422Wed, 08 Jul 2026 19:45:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet: on Wed, 08 Jul 2026 19:37:39 GMT]]>@aesthr I "love" how every time someone discovers this crap, everyone else is shocked and a few people get really anxious about having fucked up at least one important file by this anti-feature without noticing it.
Everyone hates it, but MS won't even add an opt-out setting like they did for their overzealous data conversions (everything is a date!)

related to this bullshit: excel can't open two files with the same name (but different paths), but it can have multiple windows for the same file.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://chaos.social/users/kathakatze/statuses/116886042018260890https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://chaos.social/users/kathakatze/statuses/116886042018260890Wed, 08 Jul 2026 19:37:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet: on Wed, 08 Jul 2026 19:29:49 GMT]]>@aesthr Eeeek! Make it go away!

Just kiddin. It already went away. I use something else, and I'd take a lot of persuasion to go back.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/RupertReynolds/statuses/116886011186074900https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/RupertReynolds/statuses/116886011186074900Wed, 08 Jul 2026 19:29:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet: on Wed, 08 Jul 2026 19:27:20 GMT]]>@aesthr yes, I've noticed it at work, too! then promptly forgot about it in the bliss of using MS products...

(at least the IT department listened to my desperate plea and removed or turned off everything copilot-related from my machine & license, so there's that)

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.hackerspace.pl/users/aceryz/statuses/116886001432104054https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.hackerspace.pl/users/aceryz/statuses/116886001432104054Wed, 08 Jul 2026 19:27:20 GMT