<![CDATA[“Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through.]]>“Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. The company’s newest reCAPTCHA check, rolling out now as a test, asks you to switch on your camera and wave at it so an algorithm can decide whether you’re a human or a bot.

That wave is less casual than it looks. The system records a short video of your hand and pulls 21 hand-landmark coordinates from it, mapping your finger joints, your palm geometry, and the way you move in real time.

Google describes the purpose as liveness detection, a way for websites to fend off automated account creation, credential-stuffing, and other fraud. But this is still a biometric scan, collected so you can prove you’re a person and still involves turning on your cameras for Google.”

https://reclaimthenet.org/googles-new-recaptcha-wants-your-camera-access-and-21-points-of-your-hand

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/b4db8fca-a72d-4893-a0f3-36755ea89776/google-wants-a-look-at-your-hands-before-it-lets-you-through.RSS for NodeSun, 12 Jul 2026 21:49:33 GMTWed, 01 Jul 2026 20:34:29 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. on Fri, 03 Jul 2026 05:18:34 GMT]]>@ShadSterling @remixtures it also presumed you have a way of taking a photo of something on your screen...

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/UkeleleEric/statuses/116854352433467815https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/UkeleleEric/statuses/116854352433467815Fri, 03 Jul 2026 05:18:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. on Fri, 03 Jul 2026 05:16:21 GMT]]>@remixtures in addition to the obvious risk that Google will hold on to the biometric data they will collect through this, a few seconds of video should be sufficient to thoroughly profile imperfections in your camera's lens(es), which can be used to identify photos or video taken with the same camera.

This BBC article quotes Jessica Fridrich, who I believe pioneered use of the technique and its applications in digital forensics:

The hidden fingerprint inside your photos

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://gts.cryptography.dog/users/ansuz/statuses/01KWK6G3KZRZC9RMP3VDF5YC2Thttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://gts.cryptography.dog/users/ansuz/statuses/01KWK6G3KZRZC9RMP3VDF5YC2TFri, 03 Jul 2026 05:16:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. on Fri, 03 Jul 2026 04:53:39 GMT]]>@la_rosa @remixtures

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/03/29/saudi-crown-prince-socially-acceptable-war-criminal-enjoys-us-tour-hosted-americas

Remember who Google has as major investors.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-06/google-thiel-stand-out-in-saudi-prince-s-silicon-valley-tour

https://www.businessinsider.com/saudi-arabia-crown-prince-visits-apple-google-2018-4

https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-google-hand-dissident-data-to-saudi-arabia-activists-say-2023-7

Murderous petrostate despots desperate for an international ubiquitous surveillance system to avoid another Arab Spring.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dominicdudley/2018/11/26/war-crimes-allegations-saudi-crown-prince-argentina/

https://theintercept.com/2018/04/24/mohammed-bin-salman-mbs-saudi-arabia-yemen-war-crimes/

https://www.voanews.com/a/press-freedom_saudi-crown-prince-accused-crimes-against-humanity/6202758.html

https://www.techtransparencyproject.org/articles/googles-saudi-ties

https://www.wsj.com/articles/google-parent-alphabet-and-aramco-in-talks-to-build-tech-hub-in-saudi-arabia-1517495498

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/Npars01/statuses/116854254437601338https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/Npars01/statuses/116854254437601338Fri, 03 Jul 2026 04:53:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. on Fri, 03 Jul 2026 04:26:35 GMT]]>@remixtures wow. I recently ran into the “you can’t use this site unless you take a picture of this QR code” captcha for the first time, and that was bad enough to just close the site.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/ShadSterling/statuses/116854148034385525https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/ShadSterling/statuses/116854148034385525Fri, 03 Jul 2026 04:26:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. on Fri, 03 Jul 2026 04:26:04 GMT]]> @Stoori @remixtures

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sueden.social/users/Irmgard/statuses/116854145983282560https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sueden.social/users/Irmgard/statuses/116854145983282560Fri, 03 Jul 2026 04:26:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. on Fri, 03 Jul 2026 04:18:49 GMT]]>@remixtures Backhand that damn thing.]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://friendica.myportal.social/objects/e65e1095-416a-4738-29ad-983758709888https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://friendica.myportal.social/objects/e65e1095-416a-4738-29ad-983758709888Fri, 03 Jul 2026 04:18:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. on Fri, 03 Jul 2026 03:45:35 GMT]]>@remixtures Guess there will be a lot more websites I won't be using soon. 😕]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://f.kawa-kun.com/objects/881761af-696a-4730-5f41-106244250745https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://f.kawa-kun.com/objects/881761af-696a-4730-5f41-106244250745Fri, 03 Jul 2026 03:45:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. on Fri, 03 Jul 2026 01:08:28 GMT]]>@remixtures they can go fuck themselves at the bottom of the sea.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/0x00string/statuses/116853369011913731https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/0x00string/statuses/116853369011913731Fri, 03 Jul 2026 01:08:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. on Thu, 02 Jul 2026 16:39:00 GMT]]>@remixtures

👤 Hey Optimus
🤖 Yes Master?
👤 Wave your hand in front of the cam
🤖 Yes Master
🤖 Done

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://toot.community/users/knu/statuses/116851365644232062https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://toot.community/users/knu/statuses/116851365644232062Thu, 02 Jul 2026 16:39:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. on Thu, 02 Jul 2026 15:09:33 GMT]]>@remixtures will it recognize my hand geometry if I only wave my middle finger?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://pdx.social/users/mossyfoot/statuses/116851013914144594https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://pdx.social/users/mossyfoot/statuses/116851013914144594Thu, 02 Jul 2026 15:09:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. on Thu, 02 Jul 2026 14:36:37 GMT]]>@remixtures

Google is not your friend.]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.ewenbell.com/objects/225fa4ca-8dda-4f63-99da-f77555ea8f0fhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.ewenbell.com/objects/225fa4ca-8dda-4f63-99da-f77555ea8f0fThu, 02 Jul 2026 14:36:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. on Thu, 02 Jul 2026 12:53:21 GMT]]>@remixtures

I will not comply.

The internet really could have been a global space for communication and learning.

The surveillance capitalism Google pioneered poisoned that hopeful vision for the internet, AI scrapers have decimated trust... and so Google's response is... more surveillance.!?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://todon.eu/ap/users/116345501003640165/statuses/116850478395169245https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://todon.eu/ap/users/116345501003640165/statuses/116850478395169245Thu, 02 Jul 2026 12:53:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. on Thu, 02 Jul 2026 12:49:44 GMT]]>@remixtures

Giggle wants to give online privacy a hand job.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/huntingdon/statuses/116850464183774369https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/huntingdon/statuses/116850464183774369Thu, 02 Jul 2026 12:49:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. on Thu, 02 Jul 2026 12:34:10 GMT]]>@alsvha @remixtures

This, exactly. How anyone is still using products from them is beyond me.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.world/users/crabby/statuses/116850402934172897https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.world/users/crabby/statuses/116850402934172897Thu, 02 Jul 2026 12:34:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. on Thu, 02 Jul 2026 12:23:17 GMT]]>@remixtures Would we even need the captcha stuff if Google just started leading the charge respecting robots.txt?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/gooba42/statuses/116850360154529468https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/gooba42/statuses/116850360154529468Thu, 02 Jul 2026 12:23:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. on Thu, 02 Jul 2026 09:12:32 GMT]]>@remixtures
I will immediately delete any account that requires this of me.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/freediverx/statuses/116849610090554970https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/freediverx/statuses/116849610090554970Thu, 02 Jul 2026 09:12:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. on Thu, 02 Jul 2026 08:59:40 GMT]]>@remixtures Whole Foods (Amazon) had palm readers to pay for purchases. They have removed them after about 2 years. My finger prints had a cop say “don’t touch anything”, $35 fine. Burnt 3 & cut one almost off, the nail flipped back to touch knuckle. My face is here & on driver’s license & passport. Several phone apps use Face ID. Wells Fargo wants to use it in bank as well.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.world/users/stevewfolds/statuses/116849559535193351https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.world/users/stevewfolds/statuses/116849559535193351Thu, 02 Jul 2026 08:59:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. on Thu, 02 Jul 2026 08:18:34 GMT]]>@remixtures Yeah, that's a good way to make sure I don't signup or use a service at all.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sunny.garden/ap/users/116118702619468696/statuses/116849397865073928https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sunny.garden/ap/users/116118702619468696/statuses/116849397865073928Thu, 02 Jul 2026 08:18:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. on Thu, 02 Jul 2026 08:16:27 GMT]]>@remixtures
This reeks of the sort of brain rot that has come to typify Google, and to be fair a large number of other developers.

Dudes sitting in a shiny bright office develop a widget and assume everyone else is in the same position as them. How will it work on a rainy night in Halifax? If the camera on the phone is faulty? If the person has limited mobility? If the computer does not have a camera?
So many scenarios where this will fall down.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodonapp.uk/users/leighms/statuses/116849389599261600https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodonapp.uk/users/leighms/statuses/116849389599261600Thu, 02 Jul 2026 08:16:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. on Thu, 02 Jul 2026 06:16:35 GMT]]>@remixtures Seeing this circulate more, it occurs to me this is probably going to fuck anyone who happens to be an amputee, happen to have broken fingers or a broken wrist at the time, as well as the usual inaccuracies these systems have with PoC. Oh, and what do you wanna bet there's been so little accounting for women's hands that acrylics or just nail polish is going to fuck with this?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://todon.eu/ap/users/115601049471092408/statuses/116848918241254282https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://todon.eu/ap/users/115601049471092408/statuses/116848918241254282Thu, 02 Jul 2026 06:16:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. on Thu, 02 Jul 2026 03:34:23 GMT]]>@remixtures
Any website using it instantly looses a customer.
Forever.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://norden.social/ap/users/115600190321040136/statuses/116848280405563937https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://norden.social/ap/users/115600190321040136/statuses/116848280405563937Thu, 02 Jul 2026 03:34:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. on Thu, 02 Jul 2026 03:03:29 GMT]]>@remixtures Sometimes I forget to remove some Google from a new computer setup, and I run into Google's Captcha.

It serves as a good reminder to remove Google.

But I like to fill out a few puzzles wrong, first, as a treat.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/EdTheDev/statuses/116848158935111402https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/EdTheDev/statuses/116848158935111402Thu, 02 Jul 2026 03:03:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. on Thu, 02 Jul 2026 02:47:41 GMT]]>@remixtures so, do we need to have an inflated latex glove ready now to pass this without showing our actual hand

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://polyglot.city/users/Stoori/statuses/116848096790608650https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://polyglot.city/users/Stoori/statuses/116848096790608650Thu, 02 Jul 2026 02:47:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. on Thu, 02 Jul 2026 02:02:35 GMT]]>@remixtures Interesting.

None of my computers has a camera. This is for reasons I hope are really fucking obvious.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/ZDL/statuses/116847919452456362https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/ZDL/statuses/116847919452456362Thu, 02 Jul 2026 02:02:35 GMT