<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there</p><p><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/1w89suz/employer_wants_me_to_sign_an_ip_agreement_saying/" rel="nofollow noopener"><span>https://www.</span><span>reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comme</span><span>nts/1w89suz/employer_wants_me_to_sign_an_ip_agreement_saying/</span></a></p><p>Can your employer force you to hand over open source software you created before they hired you?</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/c29ff12b-314d-4439-ace6-09a1f3e95272/employer-wants-me-to-sign-an-ip-agreement-saying-they-own-software-i-wrote-two-years-before-i-started-working-there</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2026 14:15:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/c29ff12b-314d-4439-ace6-09a1f3e95272.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 10:48:21 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there on Sun, 13 Sep 2026 07:47:35 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/nixcraft%40mastodon.social">@<span>nixCraft</span></a></span><br />Talk to union?</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.data.coop/users/niels/statuses/117262624702668009</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.data.coop/users/niels/statuses/117262624702668009</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[niels@social.data.coop]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2026 07:47:35 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there on Sat, 12 Sep 2026 23:05:48 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/mwl%40io.mwl.io">@<span>mwl</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/nixcraft%40mastodon.social">@<span>nixCraft</span></a></span> yep. I modified almost all of those before signing, never had repercussions. ONCE there was a reasonable one standard (on w-2; temp consulting through agency were usually more reasonable).</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.radio/users/n1vux/statuses/117260572986567103</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.radio/users/n1vux/statuses/117260572986567103</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[n1vux@mastodon.radio]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2026 23:05:48 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there on Sat, 12 Sep 2026 13:06:26 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/nixcraft%40mastodon.social" rel="nofollow noopener">@<span>nixCraft</span></a></span> name it! Name it! Name it! Name it!</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://wetdry.world/users/lucasmz/statuses/117258216160857540</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://wetdry.world/users/lucasmz/statuses/117258216160857540</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[lucasmz@wetdry.world]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2026 13:06:26 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there on Sat, 12 Sep 2026 08:35:33 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="https://friendica.opensocial.space/profile/mcv">@<span>mcv</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/nixcraft%40mastodon.social">@<span>nixCraft</span></a></span> yeah, that's pretty common. Stuff written prior I've not seen.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/Lacey/statuses/117257151036164028</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/Lacey/statuses/117257151036164028</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[lacey@mastodon.gamedev.place]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2026 08:35:33 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there on Sat, 12 Sep 2026 08:11:36 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/lacey%40mastodon.gamedev.place">@<span>Lacey</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/nixcraft%40mastodon.social">@<span>nixCraft</span></a></span></p><p>In my opinion it's only acceptable for software written during your employment directly relating to your work there. And even then it should have been in your employment contract.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://friendica.opensocial.space/objects/8ffdf77c-496a-a509-38d9-e95840878427</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://friendica.opensocial.space/objects/8ffdf77c-496a-a509-38d9-e95840878427</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[mcv@friendica.opensocial.space]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2026 08:11:36 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there on Sat, 12 Sep 2026 07:43:41 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="https://friendica.opensocial.space/profile/mcv">@<span>mcv</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/nixcraft%40mastodon.social">@<span>nixCraft</span></a></span> yeah, sorry I kinda focused on the actual project, but asking for ownership of even related things fine prior isn't really acceptable</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/Lacey/statuses/117256947099871565</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/Lacey/statuses/117256947099871565</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[lacey@mastodon.gamedev.place]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2026 07:43:41 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there on Sat, 12 Sep 2026 07:41:49 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/galacticstone%40mastodon.social">@<span>galacticstone</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/nixcraft%40mastodon.social">@<span>nixCraft</span></a></span></p><p>Don't resign, let them fire you. They're in the wrong here. Don't do their dirty work for them.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://friendica.opensocial.space/objects/8ffdf77c-926a-a502-3d8d-271649306141</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://friendica.opensocial.space/objects/8ffdf77c-926a-a502-3d8d-271649306141</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[mcv@friendica.opensocial.space]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2026 07:41:49 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there on Sat, 12 Sep 2026 07:37:59 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/lacey%40mastodon.gamedev.place">@<span>Lacey</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/nixcraft%40mastodon.social">@<span>nixCraft</span></a></span></p><p>They included the vague and ill defined "or anticipated".</p><p>It's a bad contract and shouldn't hold up in court (if the court was reasonable), even if you weren't being pressured to sign under duress.</p><p>It's certainly not standard and I would never sign something like this.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://friendica.opensocial.space/objects/8ffdf77c-196a-a501-57cd-fd8658223913</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://friendica.opensocial.space/objects/8ffdf77c-196a-a501-57cd-fd8658223913</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[mcv@friendica.opensocial.space]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2026 07:37:59 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there on Sat, 12 Sep 2026 03:47:51 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/nixcraft%40mastodon.social">@<span>nixCraft</span></a></span> Well, as this non-attorney understands it, a copyright’s ownership can be transferred by written agreement. (Usually, there’s payment.) If I’m correct, then they can certainly ask. But, all those who licensed from you before still have their license.</p><p>Any way, they can ask. Asking, though, might be a red flag. After all if you leave their employment they will not give you back your copyright.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/pomCountyIrregs/statuses/117256019770477180</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/pomCountyIrregs/statuses/117256019770477180</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[pomcountyirregs@mstdn.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2026 03:47:51 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there on Fri, 11 Sep 2026 15:04:22 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/nixcraft%40mastodon.social">@<span>nixCraft</span></a></span> Refuse to sign and tender your resignation. Start shopping your resume yesterday.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/galacticstone/statuses/117253017586250089</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/galacticstone/statuses/117253017586250089</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[galacticstone@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 15:04:22 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there on Fri, 11 Sep 2026 14:32:02 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/nixcraft%40mastodon.social">@<span>nixCraft</span></a></span> </p><p>i'd talk to a lawyer but from my experience, no they can't. the purpose of enumerating prior art is exactly so they *can't* claim ownership of your prior work and you can't claim ownership of work you do for them once you're working for them.</p><p>lawyers love to put things in contracts that are blatant overreach in the hopes you'll just sign it. they are used to redlines to cut out such stuff too.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/paul_ipv6/statuses/117252890488449870</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/paul_ipv6/statuses/117252890488449870</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 14:32:02 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there on Fri, 11 Sep 2026 13:00:30 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<span><a href="https://mastodon.km6g.us/@kevin">@<span>kevin</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/nixcraft%40mastodon.social">@<span>nixCraft</span></a></span> <span><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@kattebel">@<span>kattebel</span></a></span> They already are employed there though. When I first read this I thought it was about a company hiring someone. Doing it after the fact makes this maneuver even more egregious.]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://friendica.myportal.social/objects/e65e1095-516a-a3fb-6e35-04f705306939</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://friendica.myportal.social/objects/e65e1095-516a-a3fb-6e35-04f705306939</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[hankg@friendica.myportal.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 13:00:30 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there on Fri, 11 Sep 2026 12:43:26 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/mcr314%40todon.nl">@<span>mcr314</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/nixcraft%40mastodon.social">@<span>nixCraft</span></a></span> </p><p>Could agree to give them a perpetual non-exclusive license to the code and print them off a copy of the GPL (or BSD license or whatever)</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.scot/users/petealexharris/statuses/117252463454502677</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.scot/users/petealexharris/statuses/117252463454502677</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[petealexharris@mastodon.scot]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 12:43:26 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there on Fri, 11 Sep 2026 12:27:36 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/nixcraft%40mastodon.social">@<span>nixCraft</span></a></span> I think the key phrase here is "If they relate to, could be useful to, or arise from the company's current or anticipated business."</p><p>Pretty sure a tabletop RPG management app doesn't related to your employment...  </p><p>But my response would be "Well then run it through legal because I'm not signing it over."</p><p>The whole thing is bullshit, since when does an employer have a right to ANYTHING that took place before employment?</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://shredderfood.com/users/ShredderFeeder/statuses/117252401145994619</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://shredderfood.com/users/ShredderFeeder/statuses/117252401145994619</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[shredderfeeder@shredderfood.com]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 12:27:36 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there on Fri, 11 Sep 2026 12:24:01 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/nixcraft%40mastodon.social">@<span>nixCraft</span></a></span> open source licenses are joint licenses, so one can "hand over", yet that has no effect on anyone else. What they want is ownership over any future contribution, and since those have to comply with the license. That's a reason the GPL was created in the 1980s.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://todon.nl/users/mcr314/statuses/117252387051715330</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://todon.nl/users/mcr314/statuses/117252387051715330</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[mcr314@todon.nl]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 12:24:01 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there on Fri, 11 Sep 2026 12:23:02 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/nixcraft%40mastodon.social">@<span>nixCraft</span></a></span> surprised no lawyers have weighted in, as written wouldn't this also be an attempt to claim ownership for work done for previous employers?</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/CliffsEsport/statuses/117252383193021196</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/CliffsEsport/statuses/117252383193021196</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[cliffsesport@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 12:23:02 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there on Fri, 11 Sep 2026 12:20:18 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/nixcraft%40mastodon.social">@<span>nixCraft</span></a></span> very risky and obvious<img src="https://forum.fedi.dk/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f608.png?v=7979fdcf9c7" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--smiling_imp" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="😈" alt="😈" />  but i would request a payment first<img src="https://forum.fedi.dk/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f608.png?v=7979fdcf9c7" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--smiling_imp" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="😈" alt="😈" /> <img src="https://forum.fedi.dk/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f608.png?v=7979fdcf9c7" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--smiling_imp" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="😈" alt="😈" /></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://rebel.ar/users/slargentina/statuses/117252372432497974</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://rebel.ar/users/slargentina/statuses/117252372432497974</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[slargentina@rebel.ar]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 12:20:18 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there on Fri, 11 Sep 2026 12:17:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/nixcraft%40mastodon.social" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener">@<span>nixCraft</span></a></span><br />Wtf</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.dzajew.xyz/users/dzajew/statuses/01M286DSMD9RB1C7NHRRA276CC</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.dzajew.xyz/users/dzajew/statuses/01M286DSMD9RB1C7NHRRA276CC</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[dzajew@social.dzajew.xyz]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 12:17:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there on Fri, 11 Sep 2026 12:02:16 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/nixcraft%40mastodon.social">@<span>nixCraft</span></a></span> That's batshit insane.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/WTL/statuses/117252301523055351</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/WTL/statuses/117252301523055351</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[wtl@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 12:02:16 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there on Fri, 11 Sep 2026 12:00:05 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/nixcraft%40mastodon.social">@<span>nixCraft</span></a></span> </p><p>Tell them to fuck off and find a new job.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Bandersnatch/statuses/117252292961473724</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Bandersnatch/statuses/117252292961473724</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[bandersnatch@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 12:00:05 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there on Fri, 11 Sep 2026 11:58:19 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/nixcraft%40mastodon.social">@<span>nixCraft</span></a></span> they can ask for whatever they want. </p><p>It's our job to say no.</p><p>I have had many high-level jobs and always negotiated my IP agreements.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://io.mwl.io/users/mwl/statuses/117252286021892174</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://io.mwl.io/users/mwl/statuses/117252286021892174</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[mwl@io.mwl.io]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 11:58:19 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there on Fri, 11 Sep 2026 11:53:54 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/nixcraft%40mastodon.social">@<span>nixCraft</span></a></span> <br />Companies want to treat employees as chattels and serfs.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.ie/users/raymaccarthy/statuses/117252268647810045</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.ie/users/raymaccarthy/statuses/117252268647810045</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 11:53:54 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there on Fri, 11 Sep 2026 11:50:10 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/nixcraft%40mastodon.social">@<span>nixCraft</span></a></span> DeTeWe Shipton Communications tried that on me in 1994 after I'd been working there for 3 years, retrospective IP rights. Unsurprisingly I walked <img src="https://forum.fedi.dk/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=7979fdcf9c7" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--smile" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":D" alt="😄" /></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/alexander_outten/statuses/117252253991263375</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/alexander_outten/statuses/117252253991263375</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[alexander_outten@mastodon.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 11:50:10 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there on Fri, 11 Sep 2026 11:27:34 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/nixcraft%40mastodon.social">@<span>nixCraft</span></a></span> He should ask a lawyer, not reddit.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/users/Chris1776/statuses/117252165103949213</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/users/Chris1776/statuses/117252165103949213</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[chris1776@mastodon.bsd.cafe]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 11:27:34 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>