<![CDATA[Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people.]]>Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. I'm running out of browsers. I worry browser are big and complicated enough these days that they will always be run by horrible people. Feels like I need to find the browser run by the least horrible people.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/c6c79bc8-605e-4ef9-b226-fba38dcf7ad6/every-time-i-try-a-new-browser-because-the-old-browser-was-run-by-horrible-people-i-find-the-new-browser-is-also-run-by-horrible-people.RSS for NodeWed, 04 Nov 2026 02:00:15 GMTTue, 03 Nov 2026 18:47:49 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. on Tue, 03 Nov 2026 20:21:34 GMT]]>@grumpygamer is a nice web browser maintained by who is on fedi and who is strongly anti-AI. https://ploum.net/2026-09-09-ai_policy.html
lynx and xlinks2 and others also rocks.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://veganism.social/users/pelle/statuses/117554367313335442https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://veganism.social/users/pelle/statuses/117554367313335442Tue, 03 Nov 2026 20:21:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. on Tue, 03 Nov 2026 20:18:10 GMT]]>@JorisMeys @GossiTheDog @grumpygamer I also use Vivaldi, their browser is really nice and as far as I know I feel like they’re good people 🩷

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/em_and_future_cats/statuses/117554353971109492https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/em_and_future_cats/statuses/117554353971109492Tue, 03 Nov 2026 20:18:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. on Tue, 03 Nov 2026 20:06:23 GMT]]>@grumpygamer

Tor?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/kevinrns/statuses/117554307614498222https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/kevinrns/statuses/117554307614498222Tue, 03 Nov 2026 20:06:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. on Tue, 03 Nov 2026 20:05:51 GMT]]>@kennergf @sceneworld @grumpygamer I'm curious about this: either Firefox is run by horrible people, or it does bad things. Which (or both) is it in this case?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://universeodon.com/users/ddurst/statuses/117554305527981205https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://universeodon.com/users/ddurst/statuses/117554305527981205Tue, 03 Nov 2026 20:05:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. on Tue, 03 Nov 2026 20:05:02 GMT]]>@grumpygamer i used Vivaldi but technical issue with my Apple devices prevented me to use them. I discovered Startpage thanks to them. So far so good and evil-free.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/Donat/statuses/117554302315928649https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/Donat/statuses/117554302315928649Tue, 03 Nov 2026 20:05:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. on Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:57:37 GMT]]>@DukeDuke @grumpygamer

I've been using Vivaldi for a couple of years on iOS (my primary computer) with only one intermittent (and minor, to me) issue with loading some websites.

99% of the time it works smoothly, for me.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/ricardoharvin/statuses/117554273136899230https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/ricardoharvin/statuses/117554273136899230Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:57:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. on Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:57:08 GMT]]>@Ertain Only on Windows so far. It does look promising as long as they don't jump on the AI bandwagon.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/grumpygamer/statuses/117554271283651485https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/grumpygamer/statuses/117554271283651485Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:57:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. on Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:56:36 GMT]]>@jcurioso Suit yourself. But the url is part of the tab because it is different for each tab.
Therefore the url bar has to be within the tab.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/yora/statuses/117554269150831056https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/yora/statuses/117554269150831056Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:56:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. on Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:55:38 GMT]]>@grumpygamer I've heard the Ladybird browser looks promising. However, it's not even in alpha yet.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mast.linuxgamecast.com/users/Ertain/statuses/117554265381674841https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mast.linuxgamecast.com/users/Ertain/statuses/117554265381674841Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:55:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. on Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:53:46 GMT]]>@sceneworld @grumpygamer yes, they are on the bad side

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/kennergf/statuses/117554258032801403https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/kennergf/statuses/117554258032801403Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:53:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. on Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:53:26 GMT]]>@yora @grumpygamer

I never liked tabs over the URL bar, even less after I got used to vertical tabs, which are much more practical with modern widescreen monitors.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/117138860419737986/statuses/117554256730944467https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/117138860419737986/statuses/117554256730944467Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:53:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. on Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:52:50 GMT]]>@snukey @GossiTheDog @grumpygamer zen is Hood, firefox with steroids

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.uno/users/betelgeuse93/statuses/117554254338133930https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.uno/users/betelgeuse93/statuses/117554254338133930Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:52:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. on Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:51:08 GMT]]>@grumpygamer Zen so far as the greatest track record I believe

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/OSchell/statuses/117554247647853070https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/OSchell/statuses/117554247647853070Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:51:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. on Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:49:29 GMT]]>@grumpygamer Lots of votes for Vivaldi here, but I can't be one of them. I use it as a secondary "trash" browser (for general surfing) alongside Librewolf, but with multiple installs on different platforms, it's always been buggy for me. Freeze-ups, random shutdowns, sluggishness, etc.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/DukeDuke/statuses/117554241161159017https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/DukeDuke/statuses/117554241161159017Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:49:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. on Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:46:31 GMT]]>@grumpygamer I’ve gone back to Netscape Navigator.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/NickFerg/statuses/117554229493382048https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/NickFerg/statuses/117554229493382048Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:46:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. on Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:45:11 GMT]]>@jcurioso @grumpygamer It's missing the ability to have the tabs above the URL bar. Which is the only place where they have any right to be.

Damn techno-fascism for making me endure this travesty.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/yora/statuses/117554224283700533https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/yora/statuses/117554224283700533Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:45:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. on Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:44:37 GMT]]>@eldadoinquieto @grumpygamer

works well enough for me. IronFox on Android

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Sassinake/statuses/117554222063166584https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Sassinake/statuses/117554222063166584Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:44:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. on Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:44:08 GMT]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hub.azkware.net/objects/6e2ecb8d-166a-ea39-887c-ce9159805012https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hub.azkware.net/objects/6e2ecb8d-166a-ea39-887c-ce9159805012Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:44:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. on Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:42:59 GMT]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hub.azkware.net/objects/6e2ecb8d-176a-ea39-439c-91d771312482https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hub.azkware.net/objects/6e2ecb8d-176a-ea39-439c-91d771312482Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:42:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. on Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:36:50 GMT]]>@GossiTheDog @grumpygamer same, been using it for years and they haven't done anything so far. Always time for them to sell it to the Chinese like they did with Opera, but here's hoping that doesn't happen.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.vivaldi.net/users/badambassador/statuses/117554191424960590https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.vivaldi.net/users/badambassador/statuses/117554191424960590Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:36:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. on Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:35:51 GMT]]>@grumpygamer ...is there something I don't know about Vivaldi?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Selvari21106/statuses/117554187575898023https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Selvari21106/statuses/117554187575898023Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:35:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. on Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:26:58 GMT]]>@virtualbri @grumpygamer

> “Enshittification” is a term coined by the author and activist Cory Doctorow, which describes the deliberate process of degradation of digital products and services.

Thanks @pluralistic

https://www.forbrukerradet.no/news-in-english/digital-products-and-services-are-getting-worse-but-the-trend-can-be-reversed/

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mathstodon.xyz/users/Arpie4Math/statuses/117554152603937992https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mathstodon.xyz/users/Arpie4Math/statuses/117554152603937992Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:26:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. on Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:26:39 GMT]]>@grumpygamer Safari

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://dusty.ninja/users/bryan/statuses/01M6HE1EJTSTYTQPR4FEH1JPCHhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://dusty.ninja/users/bryan/statuses/01M6HE1EJTSTYTQPR4FEH1JPCHTue, 03 Nov 2026 19:26:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. on Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:24:35 GMT]]>@grumpygamer if you don't mind that it doesn't work, browser from the people might be a thing.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/robinp/statuses/117554143275333197https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/robinp/statuses/117554143275333197Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:24:35 GMT