<![CDATA[This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_.]]>RE: https://infosec.exchange/@0xabad1dea/117239484057326836

This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. Every one of these new "achievements" looks plausible and like Lucy with the football, people I trust keep telling me it actually works and surely this time it's real. And then like clockwork, 3-6 months later, it turns out that the efficacy of this new technique is somewhere between "break even" and "fraud".

They're turning our whole industry, my entire life's work, into a goddamn memecoin pump and dump scam and I just don't know what to do.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/d3079b00-a9db-4570-aa3d-f99654da0516/this-stuff-is-really-starting-to-make-me-_angry_.RSS for NodeMon, 28 Sep 2026 18:03:08 GMTWed, 09 Sep 2026 05:56:57 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. on Wed, 09 Sep 2026 15:46:55 GMT]]>@glyph @0xabad1dea :insert Herr Musk carrying a sink into Twitter meme here:

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/petrillic/statuses/117241860299663146https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/petrillic/statuses/117241860299663146Wed, 09 Sep 2026 15:46:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. on Wed, 09 Sep 2026 15:22:29 GMT]]>@glyph The big problem is that they work often enough to be useful, but not often enough to be trusted.

So you can use them to find a pile of vulnerabilities. Some of them might be real and important, some might be fake or just not all that important.

For an attacker, that's great. You can just iterate through until you find one vulnerability that works and exploit it.

For a defender, much less simple. You have to triage them, fix them, ensure the fixes don't themselves introduce new vulnerabilities, etc.

And yeah, this is one of the big frustrations with the whole field. It "works". Often enough to be useful, for some tasks. But what tasks? How do you know when it didn't work?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/unlambda/statuses/117241764197775667https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/unlambda/statuses/117241764197775667Wed, 09 Sep 2026 15:22:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. on Wed, 09 Sep 2026 14:00:33 GMT]]>@glyph Maybe helping to resist all those "tools" by hiding them helps?

https://github.com/gittaca/Stevos-GenAI-Blocklist/

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://chaos.social/users/gittaca/statuses/117241442057213423https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://chaos.social/users/gittaca/statuses/117241442057213423Wed, 09 Sep 2026 14:00:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. on Wed, 09 Sep 2026 13:50:49 GMT]]>@glyph the job of every capitalist system is to take your good will and convert it into gray goo

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/cyberquixote/statuses/117241403764194542https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/cyberquixote/statuses/117241403764194542Wed, 09 Sep 2026 13:50:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. on Wed, 09 Sep 2026 13:41:53 GMT]]>@glyph

buy a farm and raise goats and chickens.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Sassinake/statuses/117241368658976019https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Sassinake/statuses/117241368658976019Wed, 09 Sep 2026 13:41:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. on Wed, 09 Sep 2026 13:12:12 GMT]]>@glyph Draw pictures of Anthropic/OpenAI as Lucy, obviously

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/danschnau/statuses/117241251933459046https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/danschnau/statuses/117241251933459046Wed, 09 Sep 2026 13:12:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. on Wed, 09 Sep 2026 13:04:39 GMT]]>@djmitche @glyph Yep. I now wake up most days wondering if the sum contribution of my work in this honrable profession has amounted to exactly zero.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/dabeaz/statuses/117241222204197892https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/dabeaz/statuses/117241222204197892Wed, 09 Sep 2026 13:04:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. on Wed, 09 Sep 2026 12:57:26 GMT]]>@naught101

only slightly disagree with the „questionable“ part - we know very well these people are very bad persons…

@glyph

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/lazyb0y/statuses/117241193868999505https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/lazyb0y/statuses/117241193868999505Wed, 09 Sep 2026 12:57:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. on Wed, 09 Sep 2026 11:54:21 GMT]]>@glyph
> They're turning our whole industry, my entire life's work, into a goddamn memecoin pump and dump scam and I just don't know what to do.

This sentence hits me right in the feels!

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/djmitche/statuses/117240945817245326https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/djmitche/statuses/117240945817245326Wed, 09 Sep 2026 11:54:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. on Wed, 09 Sep 2026 11:49:01 GMT]]>@glyph I don't think it "doesn't work". It clearly does things that can be useful in specific circumstances, and that can appear useful in a much broader set of circumstances. But it's also eroding our capacity to maintain our own systems (software, broader tech, and social). And one of the ways it does "work" is moving control from users to a handful of unaccountable corporations run by questionable people...

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/naught101/statuses/117240924828687946https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/naught101/statuses/117240924828687946Wed, 09 Sep 2026 11:49:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. on Wed, 09 Sep 2026 11:15:16 GMT]]>@glyph Scammers have all the power, it is an economy of theft and grift and for the people who are affected by this are looking and understanding the Luddite movement that little bit more.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://oldbytes.space/users/nini/statuses/117240792118204608https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://oldbytes.space/users/nini/statuses/117240792118204608Wed, 09 Sep 2026 11:15:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. on Wed, 09 Sep 2026 11:12:46 GMT]]>@glyph all of this while every professional has to worry about being laid off due to the machines "replacing them" or "making others more efficient".

The reality is that everyone is drowning in slop while formerly (somewhat) stable infrastructure is historically unstable due to the maintaining companies going all-in on AI.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/mr_harm/statuses/117240782318485439https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/mr_harm/statuses/117240782318485439Wed, 09 Sep 2026 11:12:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. on Wed, 09 Sep 2026 10:03:37 GMT]]>@bryce @glyph

The engineers doing the grunt work understands this. I'm not convinced most of the CxO levels are even close to capable of grasping such realities.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/dazo/statuses/117240510410220473https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/dazo/statuses/117240510410220473Wed, 09 Sep 2026 10:03:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. on Wed, 09 Sep 2026 09:54:52 GMT]]>@abartlet @glyph I’ve been surprised (though grateful) how few RCEs are coming through, ngl, even purported ones

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://masto.free-dissociation.com/ap/users/115578334005274103/statuses/117240475990819709https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://masto.free-dissociation.com/ap/users/115578334005274103/statuses/117240475990819709Wed, 09 Sep 2026 09:54:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. on Wed, 09 Sep 2026 08:54:30 GMT]]>@glyph https://youtu.be/UFeVMaK0plQ?si=o1I7GPRFhFGbv7zM&t=14

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://chaos.social/users/carlton/statuses/117240238580211128https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://chaos.social/users/carlton/statuses/117240238580211128Wed, 09 Sep 2026 08:54:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. on Wed, 09 Sep 2026 07:56:22 GMT]]>@ricci @glyph oh god, this man claims to study ai as a professor

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://selfy.army/users/alys/statuses/117240010028018681https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://selfy.army/users/alys/statuses/117240010028018681Wed, 09 Sep 2026 07:56:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. on Wed, 09 Sep 2026 07:49:50 GMT]]>@ricci @glyph feels like the kind of slop that boomers were falling for and getting made fun of for, just slightly more subtle and aimed at Millenials instead of boomers.

like it‘s not something a Millenial child would have made either but that‘s the era it evokes visually.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://selfy.army/users/alys/statuses/117239984314879536https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://selfy.army/users/alys/statuses/117239984314879536Wed, 09 Sep 2026 07:49:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. on Wed, 09 Sep 2026 07:41:05 GMT]]>@alys @glyph just imagine finding this funny, like really sit with the idea that someone thinks that this is what a kid would produce in this hypothetical situation, that any of this is anything other than extremely painful, that there are people who think that this is not only an impressive technical achievement (which it admittedly is) but that this is adding humor to the world

https://bsky.app/profile/emollick.bsky.social/post/3mqctp2zy7s2i

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://discuss.systems/users/ricci/statuses/117239949933781509https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://discuss.systems/users/ricci/statuses/117239949933781509Wed, 09 Sep 2026 07:41:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. on Wed, 09 Sep 2026 07:35:04 GMT]]>@alys @glyph that guy's account is chock full of stuff like this

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://discuss.systems/users/ricci/statuses/117239926264207672https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://discuss.systems/users/ricci/statuses/117239926264207672Wed, 09 Sep 2026 07:35:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. on Wed, 09 Sep 2026 07:34:26 GMT]]>@glyph if you want to be super fucking pissed go to the twisty maze of passages and ponder what would possess someone to be impressed by it

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://discuss.systems/users/ricci/statuses/117239923755861732https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://discuss.systems/users/ricci/statuses/117239923755861732Wed, 09 Sep 2026 07:34:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. on Wed, 09 Sep 2026 07:31:11 GMT]]>@ricci @glyph thanks for sharing! i wasn‘t exactly excited about a slop “conversion” of Zork but between not knowing the game and only reading the post announcing it, i probably was more credulous about the claims made than i should have been.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://selfy.army/users/alys/statuses/117239910967433729https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://selfy.army/users/alys/statuses/117239910967433729Wed, 09 Sep 2026 07:31:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. on Wed, 09 Sep 2026 07:29:21 GMT]]>@glyph if it makes you feel better: my *pessimistic* expectations are that even if we get set back *decades* and have to rebuild our software stacks from scratch, we can at least use it as a chance to *actually* take lessons we've learned and do that without the baggage of "but it would be so much work and we don't have to."

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.brycedixon.dev/users/bryce/statuses/117239903748887503https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.brycedixon.dev/users/bryce/statuses/117239903748887503Wed, 09 Sep 2026 07:29:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. on Wed, 09 Sep 2026 07:24:03 GMT]]>@ricci this is the most intense “I will never forgive them for what they have done to the computer” I have felt yet

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/glyph/statuses/117239882966037750https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/glyph/statuses/117239882966037750Wed, 09 Sep 2026 07:24:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. on Wed, 09 Sep 2026 06:53:26 GMT]]>@glyph I recently had this experience in a very low-stakes way

https://discuss.systems/@ricci/117236428486496946

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://discuss.systems/users/ricci/statuses/117239762541345266https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://discuss.systems/users/ricci/statuses/117239762541345266Wed, 09 Sep 2026 06:53:26 GMT