<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[So, OpenAI admits two things in disclosures presented to the court:]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>So, OpenAI admits <a href="https://www.404media.co/doom-loop-openai-and-microsoft-admits-llms-are-destroying-the-web-and-built-on-theft/" rel="nofollow noopener">two things in disclosures presented to the court</a>:</p><ul><li>That their products are utterly dependent on work ingested without compensation.</li><li>That their derived product is directly substituting for this work, removing the economic incentive to perform that work in the first place.</li></ul><p>Meanwhile, the EFF filed an amicus brief in the case claiming that this use is exactly what was intended by the ‘To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts’ justification for the existence of copyright in the US Constitution.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/d7d4d602-3c48-47b8-8f57-d29e51c33cff/so-openai-admits-two-things-in-disclosures-presented-to-the-court</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2026 13:40:57 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/d7d4d602-3c48-47b8-8f57-d29e51c33cff.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:21:54 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to So, OpenAI admits two things in disclosures presented to the court: on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 10:27:36 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/david_chisnall%40infosec.exchange">@<span>david_chisnall</span></a></span> Wow a self eating loop..</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/ap/users/116812235883244325/statuses/117291565450011261</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/ap/users/116812235883244325/statuses/117291565450011261</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[blainehines@infosec.exchange]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 10:27:36 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to So, OpenAI admits two things in disclosures presented to the court: on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 09:27:44 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/yora%40mastodon.gamedev.place">@<span>yora</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/david_chisnall%40infosec.exchange">@<span>david_chisnall</span></a></span> I’m aware of that on a theoretical level, but then I’m still… not surprised, but disappointed every time. Must be that I’m not hearing from them too often.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://zug.network/users/toni/statuses/117291330050599469</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://zug.network/users/toni/statuses/117291330050599469</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[toni@zug.network]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 09:27:44 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to So, OpenAI admits two things in disclosures presented to the court: on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 08:19:27 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/david_chisnall%40infosec.exchange">@<span>david_chisnall</span></a></span> this is one of those Scooby-Doo WTF moments at the end of the episode.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://bsd.network/users/dch/statuses/117291061607306916</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://bsd.network/users/dch/statuses/117291061607306916</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[dch@bsd.network]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 08:19:27 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to So, OpenAI admits two things in disclosures presented to the court: on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 08:11:54 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/david_chisnall%40infosec.exchange">@<span>david_chisnall</span></a></span> Oh yes, indeed. Thanks.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://legal.social/users/malteengeler/statuses/117291031855496897</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://legal.social/users/malteengeler/statuses/117291031855496897</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[malteengeler@legal.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 08:11:54 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to So, OpenAI admits two things in disclosures presented to the court: on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 08:04:13 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/david_chisnall%40infosec.exchange" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener">@<span>david_chisnall</span></a></span> oof, horrible. Being a copyright maximalist and putting copyright above everything, forgetting how much harm companies have caused in the past by using their legal weight to crush people's artistic expression isn't good, but defending that kind of stuff is gross.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.stealthy.club/users/esoteric_programmer/statuses/01M2SRPTZYCJAXSRWMB6H79279</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.stealthy.club/users/esoteric_programmer/statuses/01M2SRPTZYCJAXSRWMB6H79279</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[esoteric_programmer@social.stealthy.club]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 08:04:13 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to So, OpenAI admits two things in disclosures presented to the court: on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 08:01:57 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/esoteric_programmer%40social.stealthy.club" rel="nofollow noopener">@<span>esoteric_programmer</span></a></span> </p><p>No, New York Times sued OpenAI. EFF filed a motion <em>in support of OpenAI</em>.</p><p>Their mastodon account boasted about this nine days ago.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/david_chisnall/statuses/117290992766875730</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/david_chisnall/statuses/117290992766875730</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[david_chisnall@infosec.exchange]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 08:01:57 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to So, OpenAI admits two things in disclosures presented to the court: on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:58:51 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/david_chisnall%40infosec.exchange" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener">@<span>david_chisnall</span></a></span> wait what? the EFF sued open AI? I'm completely out of the loop on this one</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.stealthy.club/users/esoteric_programmer/statuses/01M2SRD0BKJ64715HA1EVFYT48</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.stealthy.club/users/esoteric_programmer/statuses/01M2SRD0BKJ64715HA1EVFYT48</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[esoteric_programmer@social.stealthy.club]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:58:51 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to So, OpenAI admits two things in disclosures presented to the court: on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:54:09 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/malteengeler%40legal.social" rel="nofollow noopener">@<span>malteengeler</span></a></span> </p><p>I’m not sure when they filed it, they <a href="https://mastodon.social/@eff/117215319335459732" rel="nofollow noopener">boasted about it a week ago</a>.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/david_chisnall/statuses/117290962100256024</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/david_chisnall/statuses/117290962100256024</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[david_chisnall@infosec.exchange]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:54:09 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to So, OpenAI admits two things in disclosures presented to the court: on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:50:30 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/david_chisnall%40infosec.exchange">@<span>david_chisnall</span></a></span> You are referring to the ones in 2025, yes? <a href="https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/12/artificial-intelligence-copyright-and-fight-user-rights-2025-review" rel="nofollow noopener"><span>https://www.</span><span>eff.org/deeplinks/2025/12/arti</span><span>ficial-intelligence-copyright-and-fight-user-rights-2025-review</span></a></p><p>Or did EFF issue newer ones?</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://legal.social/users/malteengeler/statuses/117290947729616422</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://legal.social/users/malteengeler/statuses/117290947729616422</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[malteengeler@legal.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:50:30 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to So, OpenAI admits two things in disclosures presented to the court: on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:46:38 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="https://zug.network/@toni">@<span>toni</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/david_chisnall%40infosec.exchange">@<span>david_chisnall</span></a></span> Yes. The Electronic Frontier Foundation is a tech billionaire lobby group.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/EFF" rel="tag">#<span>EFF</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/AI" rel="tag">#<span>AI</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/techbros" rel="tag">#<span>techbros</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/enshittification" rel="tag">#<span>enshittification</span></a></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/yora/statuses/117290932508873780</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/yora/statuses/117290932508873780</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[yora@mastodon.gamedev.place]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:46:38 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to So, OpenAI admits two things in disclosures presented to the court: on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:43:34 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="https://zug.network/@toni" rel="nofollow noopener">@<span>toni</span></a></span> Yup. I posted a couple of days ago about the two things I hate most in their filing.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/david_chisnall/statuses/117290920462608646</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/david_chisnall/statuses/117290920462608646</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[david_chisnall@infosec.exchange]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:43:34 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to So, OpenAI admits two things in disclosures presented to the court: on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:42:31 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/david_chisnall%40infosec.exchange">@<span>david_chisnall</span></a></span> Wait, do I understand this right? The EFF supports the AI companies?</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://zug.network/users/toni/statuses/117290916364337096</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://zug.network/users/toni/statuses/117290916364337096</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[toni@zug.network]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 07:42:31 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>