<![CDATA[Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists]]>Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/dbfefc85-a333-43fa-a126-b21d7c52dc9b/expecting-driverless-taxis-to-respect-bike-lanes-too-high-a-bar-because-customers-want-to-be-dropped-off-in-them-autonomous-vehicle-firm-waymo-tells-cyclistsRSS for NodeTue, 26 May 2026 10:12:25 GMTWed, 29 Apr 2026 23:42:33 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists on Sat, 02 May 2026 13:03:05 GMT]]>a waymo on fire

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://slrpnk.net/comment/22087842https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://slrpnk.net/comment/22087842Sat, 02 May 2026 13:03:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists on Fri, 01 May 2026 12:48:38 GMT]]>They surely detect flats, all modern cars are filled with sensors and do that. The question is more how many flats do they need to detect before calling for help.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://slrpnk.net/comment/22071138https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://slrpnk.net/comment/22071138Fri, 01 May 2026 12:48:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists on Fri, 01 May 2026 12:31:29 GMT]]>I don’t think that’s how it works. Decision-makers are rarely that principled. Instead, it’ll just part of the downsides “everyone needs to accept” as a tradeoff for this “inevitable technological progress”.

Kranzberg’s “laws” of technology would like to say something here, but decision-makers can’t hear them over all the lobybing.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://slrpnk.net/comment/22070859https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://slrpnk.net/comment/22070859Fri, 01 May 2026 12:31:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists on Fri, 01 May 2026 10:30:56 GMT]]>Now tell them how cyclists are technically entitled to the entire lane, but how that actually plays out is highly dynamic and relies on communication

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://slrpnk.net/comment/22069446https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://slrpnk.net/comment/22069446Fri, 01 May 2026 10:30:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 23:30:49 GMT]]>Doesn’t this kind of lock them out from a lot of markets?

Seems like admitting defeat on self driving, you know the one we were suppose to have 8 years ago

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sh.itjust.works/comment/25115975https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://sh.itjust.works/comment/25115975Thu, 30 Apr 2026 23:30:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 17:01:29 GMT]]>I wonder if the cars detect a flat or if they keep driving with one, or more…

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://lemmy.ml/comment/25440234https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://lemmy.ml/comment/25440234Thu, 30 Apr 2026 17:01:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 21:51:49 GMT]]>But drivers must love having cyclists share the lane with them: obviously, they oppose bike lanes because they can’t bear to be separated from us!

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23493130https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23493130Thu, 30 Apr 2026 21:51:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 16:31:48 GMT]]>Respecting the property of waymo is too high a bar.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://slrpnk.net/comment/22057760https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://slrpnk.net/comment/22057760Thu, 30 Apr 2026 16:31:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 14:15:56 GMT]]>Briefly, they lied to the NHTSA about dragging a pedestrian 20 ft and pinning them after another car knocked them into the vehicle’s path, and while they just narrowly avoided criminal charges, that incident was the final straw that caused the company to unravel, fully revealing an internal culture that flouted safety, ultimately ending with parent company GM pulling funding and recycling the technology for their assisted driving efforts while scrapping AV plans.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23490538https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23490538Thu, 30 Apr 2026 14:15:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 10:51:01 GMT]]>You can’t forget what you never knew.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mander.xyz/comment/26852924https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mander.xyz/comment/26852924Thu, 30 Apr 2026 10:51:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 08:00:36 GMT]]>they dont need to exist.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://lemmy.one/comment/19740825https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://lemmy.one/comment/19740825Thu, 30 Apr 2026 08:00:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 07:59:04 GMT]]>Then Waymo shouldnt be surprised if cyclists destroy their vehicles because they can’t obey traffic regulations and observe basic human safety

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://beehaw.org/comment/5821861https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://beehaw.org/comment/5821861Thu, 30 Apr 2026 07:59:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 07:54:34 GMT]]>Or “we don’t care enough to do it”

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://slrpnk.net/comment/22049596https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://slrpnk.net/comment/22049596Thu, 30 Apr 2026 07:54:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 07:38:06 GMT]]>That’s what it needs to be. But the reality is the entire point of AVs is to remove people from the expense report.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23482502https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23482502Thu, 30 Apr 2026 07:38:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 04:55:39 GMT]]>Y’all forget what happened to Cruise?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23478700https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23478700Thu, 30 Apr 2026 04:55:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 04:53:33 GMT]]>The NHTSA hopefully will. If we’re lucky it won’t take them trying to cover up harming a cyclist to get there.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23478679https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23478679Thu, 30 Apr 2026 04:53:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 03:45:14 GMT]]>Judging by the [lack of] consequences for the current ones: ∞

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mander.xyz/comment/26843378https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mander.xyz/comment/26843378Thu, 30 Apr 2026 03:45:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 03:44:16 GMT]]>Legally allowed, sure. “Welcome” is a stretch. lol

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mander.xyz/comment/26843368https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mander.xyz/comment/26843368Thu, 30 Apr 2026 03:44:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 03:15:07 GMT]]>I agree with the sentiment, but friendly reminder: there is no such thing as a “car lane.” There are bus-only lanes and there are bike-only lanes, where cars are not allowed, but the other lanes are “general-purpose lanes” and are not for the exclusive use of cars. Buses and bikes are welcome there too.

It’s an easy slip to make because it’s conveniently short, but “car lane” is car-centric loaded language and we shouldn’t cede that framing of the debate to the car-brains.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23477798https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23477798Thu, 30 Apr 2026 03:15:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 03:05:59 GMT]]>Tech companies don’t have to be responsible.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://piefed.social/comment/11150159https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://piefed.social/comment/11150159Thu, 30 Apr 2026 03:05:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 02:29:30 GMT]]>

and hoping nobody will force them to.

And the sad thing is, probably no one will.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23477414https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23477414Thu, 30 Apr 2026 02:29:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 02:00:03 GMT]]>I said this in the other community I saw this posted. But if they can’t figure this out, then robotaxis don’t need to exist.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23477143https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23477143Thu, 30 Apr 2026 02:00:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 01:59:04 GMT]]>How many lawsuits from run over cyclists is it gonna take?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fedia.io/m/urbanism@slrpnk.net/t/3816558/-/comment/14889393https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fedia.io/m/urbanism@slrpnk.net/t/3816558/-/comment/14889393Thu, 30 Apr 2026 01:59:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 01:46:12 GMT]]>Total horseshit. The entire point of AVs needs to be increased safety, which is the antithesis of such an act.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23477013https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23477013Thu, 30 Apr 2026 01:46:12 GMT