<![CDATA[Linus Torvalds shares his thoughts on Anti-AI coding rules on Linux mailing list.]]>Linus Torvalds shares his thoughts on Anti-AI coding rules on Linux mailing list.

https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAHk-=whTs09_ozN+e09GU68N1wPP56MUzDjrg9rnKxQUa0A_4Q@mail.gmail.com/

He is doubling down on AI. This will come back to bite him. He thinks people using LLMs for coding are actually checking their work 😂 Code reviewers are just rubber stamping PRs. Nobody in their right mind can look at 100s of PRs per day &d manually go through them especially since they don't even know if they'll have a IT job left at the end of the day. It's a race to the bottom now

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]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://vis.social/users/wcbdata/statuses/117452525405448307https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://vis.social/users/wcbdata/statuses/117452525405448307Fri, 16 Oct 2026 20:41:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Linus Torvalds shares his thoughts on Anti-AI coding rules on Linux mailing list. on Fri, 16 Oct 2026 20:37:11 GMT]]>@datarama @omnivorous_narrator @nixCraft certified haruspex

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/117231471032841755/statuses/117452507138027792https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/117231471032841755/statuses/117452507138027792Fri, 16 Oct 2026 20:37:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Linus Torvalds shares his thoughts on Anti-AI coding rules on Linux mailing list. on Fri, 16 Oct 2026 20:34:25 GMT]]>@omnivorous_narrator @nixCraft

> certified prompt engineer

what.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/datarama/statuses/117452496259872852https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/datarama/statuses/117452496259872852Fri, 16 Oct 2026 20:34:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Linus Torvalds shares his thoughts on Anti-AI coding rules on Linux mailing list. on Fri, 16 Oct 2026 20:32:39 GMT]]>@wizbean
Does he? I mean he prompted it wrong 😜

@nixCraft

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/dzwiedziu/statuses/117452489303159069https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/dzwiedziu/statuses/117452489303159069Fri, 16 Oct 2026 20:32:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Linus Torvalds shares his thoughts on Anti-AI coding rules on Linux mailing list. on Fri, 16 Oct 2026 20:30:16 GMT]]>@maia @loadhigh @nixCraft we encourage, as much as possible, focusing on the extensional properties of people in positions of responsibility, rather than their intensional ones

that is, we can't know what they're thinking, but we can know what they're doing

(edit: sorry, forgot we were gonna CW this)

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://adhd.irenes.space/users/ireneista/statuses/01M536GZYH4GJ9AJ9FZYAFS4KAhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://adhd.irenes.space/users/ireneista/statuses/01M536GZYH4GJ9AJ9FZYAFS4KAFri, 16 Oct 2026 20:30:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Linus Torvalds shares his thoughts on Anti-AI coding rules on Linux mailing list. on Fri, 16 Oct 2026 20:30:16 GMT]]>@nixCraft

I feel like AI is spewing out code it was trained with off projects that people aren't aware of, there's no attribution of that code.

So what happens if you take copywritten closed-source project code and add it to your open source project without knowing where that code snippet came from? Legally this sort of thing might kill open source projects as a result. Is Anthropic going to state all code generated is open source and copyright free? I don't think they can, and that is going to pollute the kernel?

AI code is extremely problematic in this sense.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://ioc.exchange/ap/users/117207925747226111/statuses/117452479974794702https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://ioc.exchange/ap/users/117207925747226111/statuses/117452479974794702Fri, 16 Oct 2026 20:30:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Linus Torvalds shares his thoughts on Anti-AI coding rules on Linux mailing list. on Fri, 16 Oct 2026 20:28:35 GMT]]>@ireneista @loadhigh @nixCraft he really doesn’t get it at all. i don’t know if he’s being deliberately obtuse or if he’s just that hopelessly clueless, but it really seems to be the latter

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.art/users/maia/statuses/117452473314099183https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.art/users/maia/statuses/117452473314099183Fri, 16 Oct 2026 20:28:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Linus Torvalds shares his thoughts on Anti-AI coding rules on Linux mailing list. on Fri, 16 Oct 2026 20:16:55 GMT]]>@prefec2 @nixCraft AI is best for tasks where quality doesn't matter, where the result doesn't matter.

Which ideally should be none of them.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://piaille.fr/users/typhon/statuses/117452427491621859https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://piaille.fr/users/typhon/statuses/117452427491621859Fri, 16 Oct 2026 20:16:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Linus Torvalds shares his thoughts on Anti-AI coding rules on Linux mailing list. on Fri, 16 Oct 2026 20:15:05 GMT]]>@nixCraft What a dipshit. If you make a mistake while typing, YOU made the mistake. If the LLM makes a mistake generating code for you, you had nothing to do with it and no way to prevent it.

If your compiler takes good code and introduces a bug, the compiler is bugged, and you can fix it. If the LLM takes your existing codebase and introduces a bug... no shit! What did you expect? There is nothing you can do to fix the LLM, because it's not broken. A compiler is deterministic (as is an editor), an LLM is stochastic. Two totally different categories of software.

The people I respect and call intelligent do their own work and bear full responsibility for it. They have principles and care about quality, reliability, and correctness. They evaluate things on their merits and don't chase fads because they're "new and interesting."

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://yiff.life/users/tael/statuses/117452420228969513https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://yiff.life/users/tael/statuses/117452420228969513Fri, 16 Oct 2026 20:15:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Linus Torvalds shares his thoughts on Anti-AI coding rules on Linux mailing list. on Fri, 16 Oct 2026 20:05:37 GMT]]>@jesse @nixCraft My apologies @phanpy UI got me tricked. But, in my defense, I would say that AI bros pushing this shit deserve all the hate they can get.

The only problem is that you were not one of them.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://landofooo.social/users/iscarlosmolero/statuses/01M5353VY2JJY8STAN2D13R02Rhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://landofooo.social/users/iscarlosmolero/statuses/01M5353VY2JJY8STAN2D13R02RFri, 16 Oct 2026 20:05:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Linus Torvalds shares his thoughts on Anti-AI coding rules on Linux mailing list. on Fri, 16 Oct 2026 20:02:31 GMT]]>@iscarlosmolero @nixCraft Your reply doesn’t match the anti-AI sentiments on your bio, so I’m assuming you didn’t realize I was referring to Linus’ take.

Read slower and be less of a jerk, thanks.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.jelliefrontier.net/users/jesse/statuses/117452370857170552https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.jelliefrontier.net/users/jesse/statuses/117452370857170552Fri, 16 Oct 2026 20:02:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Linus Torvalds shares his thoughts on Anti-AI coding rules on Linux mailing list. on Fri, 16 Oct 2026 19:54:55 GMT]]>@jesse @nixCraft [REDACTED] misallocated hate lol.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://landofooo.social/users/iscarlosmolero/statuses/01M534G8XA451Q7PJ7M0C1Z1KYhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://landofooo.social/users/iscarlosmolero/statuses/01M534G8XA451Q7PJ7M0C1Z1KYFri, 16 Oct 2026 19:54:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Linus Torvalds shares his thoughts on Anti-AI coding rules on Linux mailing list. on Fri, 16 Oct 2026 19:51:00 GMT]]>@nixCraft i'm sick and tired of borderline-eugenicist freakshows like linus and other techbros who are so obsessed with "intelligence" that they dismiss anyone and everyone who doesn't appear to display it in a way that affirms their own egos.

people like this shouldn't be leading or managing anything that involves other people.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://ioc.exchange/users/tmw/statuses/117452325578312075https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://ioc.exchange/users/tmw/statuses/117452325578312075Fri, 16 Oct 2026 19:51:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Linus Torvalds shares his thoughts on Anti-AI coding rules on Linux mailing list. on Fri, 16 Oct 2026 19:48:40 GMT]]>@nixCraft It's time we replace Linux with some other kernel by the way, it would be great if it was the Hurd

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/MuhammadFreeSoftware/statuses/117452316408619153https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/MuhammadFreeSoftware/statuses/117452316408619153Fri, 16 Oct 2026 19:48:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Linus Torvalds shares his thoughts on Anti-AI coding rules on Linux mailing list. on Fri, 16 Oct 2026 19:45:07 GMT]]>@__jm It is shady, yes, but there are also locally models, not only cloud. I've learned a lot how to 'bubble' mine. Still, I know there are other tools, but are more convoluted to me.

I only use it because I am forced to right now, once I get rid of that nonsense I will 💯 drop AI in any form

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/epistomai/statuses/117452302438370628https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/epistomai/statuses/117452302438370628Fri, 16 Oct 2026 19:45:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Linus Torvalds shares his thoughts on Anti-AI coding rules on Linux mailing list. on Fri, 16 Oct 2026 19:42:24 GMT]]>@nixCraft

Someone needs to explain logical fallacies to Linus because he doesn't seem to understand False Equivalence and Straw Man, among others 🫤🤦‍♂️

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/simonzerafa/statuses/117452291767316655https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/simonzerafa/statuses/117452291767316655Fri, 16 Oct 2026 19:42:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Linus Torvalds shares his thoughts on Anti-AI coding rules on Linux mailing list. on Fri, 16 Oct 2026 19:41:35 GMT]]>@nixCraft This post is actually a pretty good reply to that, even if it is on LinkedIn... https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ai-tool-rich-hickey-kjl8e

Use the tools you want - but don't use automation where your brain should do the job.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.dk/users/Gjoel/statuses/117452288508386213https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.dk/users/Gjoel/statuses/117452288508386213Fri, 16 Oct 2026 19:41:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Linus Torvalds shares his thoughts on Anti-AI coding rules on Linux mailing list. on Fri, 16 Oct 2026 19:40:07 GMT]]>@syntaxseed @nixCraft
I agree...and I most definitely would have rules for non-deterministic tools. Those were two inappropriate analogies.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://ecoevo.social/users/cosmicspittle/statuses/117452282727919873https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://ecoevo.social/users/cosmicspittle/statuses/117452282727919873Fri, 16 Oct 2026 19:40:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Linus Torvalds shares his thoughts on Anti-AI coding rules on Linux mailing list. on Fri, 16 Oct 2026 19:36:12 GMT]]>@nixCraft Anyway, apparently LWN also (very briefly) covered this: https://lwn.net/Articles/1100449/

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/omnivorous_narrator/statuses/117452267345512722https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/omnivorous_narrator/statuses/117452267345512722Fri, 16 Oct 2026 19:36:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Linus Torvalds shares his thoughts on Anti-AI coding rules on Linux mailing list. on Fri, 16 Oct 2026 19:32:23 GMT]]>@loadhigh @nixCraft yeah, he's been cruel without purpose for a long, long time. it's waxed and waned overt he decades.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://adhd.irenes.space/users/ireneista/statuses/01M53370CZW5TRD1ZSC9F7G0KBhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://adhd.irenes.space/users/ireneista/statuses/01M53370CZW5TRD1ZSC9F7G0KBFri, 16 Oct 2026 19:32:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Linus Torvalds shares his thoughts on Anti-AI coding rules on Linux mailing list. on Fri, 16 Oct 2026 19:24:34 GMT]]>@nixCraft Man, that last paragraph, what a nasty guy.

My respect goes to the maintainers who manage to handle working with an asshole like this. I know I wouldn't be able to do it.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://bitbang.social/users/loadhigh/statuses/117452221631294592https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://bitbang.social/users/loadhigh/statuses/117452221631294592Fri, 16 Oct 2026 19:24:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Linus Torvalds shares his thoughts on Anti-AI coding rules on Linux mailing list. on Fri, 16 Oct 2026 19:24:24 GMT]]>@nixCraft But also… “Amanda Caswell is an AI journalist, certified prompt engineer, and technology commentator whose work and expertise have been featured on Fox News and CBS News […] TNS owner Insight Partners is an investor in: Anthropic”

(and the article is sprinkled with weird ambiguities. Wouldn’t surprise me if it was LLM-summarized or LLM-rewritten)

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/omnivorous_narrator/statuses/117452220949176545https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/omnivorous_narrator/statuses/117452220949176545Fri, 16 Oct 2026 19:24:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Linus Torvalds shares his thoughts on Anti-AI coding rules on Linux mailing list. on Fri, 16 Oct 2026 19:23:27 GMT]]>@nixCraft It should be easy to maintain stats on the slop producers regardless of origins and slow the worst offenders even further somehow. There's always a human motivation behind any AI production. That shouldn't be too hard to control I think.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116377281084471139/statuses/117452217219236128https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116377281084471139/statuses/117452217219236128Fri, 16 Oct 2026 19:23:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Linus Torvalds shares his thoughts on Anti-AI coding rules on Linux mailing list. on Fri, 16 Oct 2026 19:21:19 GMT]]>@nixCraft I love it when techbros begin their argument with "I don't understand" as a rhetorical stance because it's always true in a way: they don't understand.

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