<![CDATA[if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media]]>if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/eb153157-835c-4a3d-9efc-aefd679c5e5b/if-you-want-kids-to-go-outside-instead-of-being-on-their-devices-how-about-you-work-to-restore-3rd-spaces-for-them-instead-of-trying-to-ban-them-from-social-mediaRSS for NodeMon, 21 Sep 2026 06:24:24 GMTFri, 18 Sep 2026 12:56:46 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 18:02:39 GMT]]>@eniko both things are important. There shouldn't be a "instead" there, imo.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/profpatonildo/statuses/117293354839930917https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/profpatonildo/statuses/117293354839930917Fri, 18 Sep 2026 18:02:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 17:42:36 GMT]]>@greywolfauthor yes, or home and work for adults

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/eniko/statuses/117293275981641075https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/eniko/statuses/117293275981641075Fri, 18 Sep 2026 17:42:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 17:42:13 GMT]]>@eniko

What are 1st and 2nd places - home and school?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/greywolfauthor/statuses/117293274433783419https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mas.to/users/greywolfauthor/statuses/117293274433783419Fri, 18 Sep 2026 17:42:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 17:40:32 GMT]]>@eniko With the climate the way it is, my area has just The two seasons now - hot or cold.

The hot is routinely "extreme heat warning".
The cold is routinely "warming centers on the news".

We don't get lots of snow. It's just cold and miserable.

I want to go outside more than I do, double for the kids, but it's just always awful now.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/gooba42/statuses/117293267875644938https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/gooba42/statuses/117293267875644938Fri, 18 Sep 2026 17:40:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 17:30:50 GMT]]>@eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place
Restore 3rd spaces for everyone, especially outdoor spaces and activities.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://calckey.world/notes/arastx1t8ahttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://calckey.world/notes/arastx1t8aFri, 18 Sep 2026 17:30:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 17:11:24 GMT]]>@matty @eniko people make friends today as well despite social media, of course.

but i don't think the problem with social is just about making friends (or not). i think it's more about growing up, being exposed to life, getting a bruise or two (physically and emotionally), slowing down, learning restraint and probably a bunch of other things.

i do agree with you that nothing would be perfect at this point.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/117259382702403019/statuses/117293153269551747https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/117259382702403019/statuses/117293153269551747Fri, 18 Sep 2026 17:11:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 16:59:02 GMT]]>@eniko you go outside and sit in the dirt and wallow like we did when we were kids
And you'll thank me for it too

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://floofy.tech/users/smolbrain/statuses/117293104648617982https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://floofy.tech/users/smolbrain/statuses/117293104648617982Fri, 18 Sep 2026 16:59:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 16:52:42 GMT]]>@eniko One school got tech-bound students to go outside in one lesson onto the grass. To play.

Except they had no idea how to play.

After a few days they started rushing outside to play.

We need the culture to make the real world not tech focal.

Stigmatising tech use in public by govt 'zombie' videos would have a massive effect to help steer that path.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/115627417809417107/statuses/117293079757933083https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/115627417809417107/statuses/117293079757933083Fri, 18 Sep 2026 16:52:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 16:52:05 GMT]]>@helpsterTee @eniko perhaps you're right. time will tell. from where i sit, it doesn't look like that. thankfully i have a twisted sense of humor so i can amuse myself with the irony of it all.

for years we've been so worried about fascism, communism, dictatorships ... turns out democracy was the perfect tool to enslave us all. in hindsight it makes sense - you can use the stick to enslave people, but you can't keep them there long. use a carrot instead and the picture changes dramatically.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/117259382702403019/statuses/117293077321985906https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/117259382702403019/statuses/117293077321985906Fri, 18 Sep 2026 16:52:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 16:43:58 GMT]]>@eniko also the solution to toxic systems can't be to "keep kids away from them until they are of age", it needs to be improving the systems to not be f*cking toxic for anyone šŸ˜¬

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.art/users/tso/statuses/117293045415827811https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.art/users/tso/statuses/117293045415827811Fri, 18 Sep 2026 16:43:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 16:12:38 GMT]]>@eniko These are two different issues. ā€œThird spacesā€ have nothing inherently to do with laws restricting minorsā€™ access to online information. And computers arenā€™t the 1990s TV: they can be places for learning, creating, researching, programming and socializing. ā€œGo outsideā€ isnā€™t a policy argument.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116178050250416855/statuses/117292922218141161https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116178050250416855/statuses/117292922218141161Fri, 18 Sep 2026 16:12:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 16:04:02 GMT]]>@eniko

Adults getting off their own devices and going outside and interacting with other people, finding interesting/creative/sociable hobbies might also help encourage youngsters to get off their devices.

So many adults are addicted too

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.scot/users/Cyclist/statuses/117292888394566317https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.scot/users/Cyclist/statuses/117292888394566317Fri, 18 Sep 2026 16:04:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 15:54:18 GMT]]>@athena_rising

Also, parents don't have time! Parents have to work 40 hours a day to keep a roof over their heads!

If kids can't do things by themselves, they can't do things at all. The only thing they're legally allowed to do right now is stare at their phonesā€¦and now the government is taking that away, too.

Society is sick in the head. I am terrified of where this is going.

@eniko

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.sdf.org/users/argv_minus_one/statuses/117292850103136832https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.sdf.org/users/argv_minus_one/statuses/117292850103136832Fri, 18 Sep 2026 15:54:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 15:53:41 GMT]]>@argv_minus_one @eniko šŸ‘€ maybe where you lived. Where I lived there were swarms of us outside in all weather getting into all sorts of nonsense. So, sorry you personally didn't play with friends outside because you lived where there were no other kids around, but it definitely was extremely typical in my childhood.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/SomeVeganCheeseIsOk/statuses/117292847725625311https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/SomeVeganCheeseIsOk/statuses/117292847725625311Fri, 18 Sep 2026 15:53:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 15:46:47 GMT]]>@DamonWakes

And it is a crime. It is illegal in many jurisdictions for children to be outside.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-range_parenting

Parents and politicians don't want kids outside. Parents and politicians want kids to not speak to anyone ever. It's right there in the laws they write and cheer forā€”content posted by minor users of social media sites is not to be visible to anyone.

It's sick. This whole world is sick. And I don't mean the kids; I mean the adults.

@eniko

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.sdf.org/users/argv_minus_one/statuses/117292820558471792https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.sdf.org/users/argv_minus_one/statuses/117292820558471792Fri, 18 Sep 2026 15:46:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 15:42:47 GMT]]>@SomeVeganCheeseIsOk

Kids weren't going outside 30 years ago, either. I know they weren't because I was a kid outside 30 years ago and it was DESERTED out there. I almost never saw another soul, aside from people in cars.

Social media companies didn't do this. Social media companies didn't EXIST when this happened.

And I must add that I find it deeply disturbing that I'm seemingly the only one who remembers his own childhood. What the hell happened to the rest of you?

@eniko

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.sdf.org/users/argv_minus_one/statuses/117292804840404673https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.sdf.org/users/argv_minus_one/statuses/117292804840404673Fri, 18 Sep 2026 15:42:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 15:38:41 GMT]]>@pizzadoesntexist@mastodon.social
US: no clue, maybe
EU: we still have courts left that do work for us

If they go through with it anyways, there are enough people who will call out their bullshit and we need to amplify that into offline spaces. Happened in the past, will happen again.

That's why she still has that nickname
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zugangserschwerungsgesetz

From the start, the project was the subject of intense political debate, in which the family minister gained the iconic nickname Zensursula ā€“ a portmanteau of the German word Zensur for ā€œcensorshipā€ and her first name Ursula.
Yah, well, we'll see...

@eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.helpsterte.eu/notes/araotoszrjhf0tx7https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.helpsterte.eu/notes/araotoszrjhf0tx7Fri, 18 Sep 2026 15:38:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 15:31:49 GMT]]>@eniko Also as an adult. *cough* How about "leading" by example?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/aanee/statuses/117292761685956776https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/aanee/statuses/117292761685956776Fri, 18 Sep 2026 15:31:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 15:29:48 GMT]]>@brunogirin @eniko Yabba dabba doooooo!!! šŸ˜†

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://thecanadian.social/ap/users/116358493780415867/statuses/117292753759602641https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://thecanadian.social/ap/users/116358493780415867/statuses/117292753759602641Fri, 18 Sep 2026 15:29:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 15:29:02 GMT]]>@eniko or even make outside safe to exist, without a bunch of people needing to steal from one another

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/117276515610700342/statuses/117292750740532205https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/117276515610700342/statuses/117292750740532205Fri, 18 Sep 2026 15:29:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 15:28:48 GMT]]>@helpsterTee @eniko i don't think we have any control over this. when they really want something to happen, it happens. just have to accept it.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/117259382702403019/statuses/117292749875428998https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/117259382702403019/statuses/117292749875428998Fri, 18 Sep 2026 15:28:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 15:25:28 GMT]]>@helpsterTee @eniko yeah, that's a big part of the solution. though that's never gonna happen.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/117259382702403019/statuses/117292736730707361https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/117259382702403019/statuses/117292736730707361Fri, 18 Sep 2026 15:25:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 15:20:54 GMT]]>@pizzadoesntexist@mastodon.social imagine you could regulate the Heroin away by legally banning predatory ads, timeline algorithms and dark patterns. Because these big companies are actually legal entities and not a rando drug dealer.

And that would also help the adults.

@eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.helpsterte.eu/notes/arao6tc4rjhf0twuhttps://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.helpsterte.eu/notes/arao6tc4rjhf0twuFri, 18 Sep 2026 15:20:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media on Fri, 18 Sep 2026 15:19:32 GMT]]>@eniko *calls cops on kids for crime of being young in a public space*
"Why do kids these days shut themselves indoors all the time?"

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.sdf.org/users/DamonWakes/statuses/117292713429279557https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.sdf.org/users/DamonWakes/statuses/117292713429279557Fri, 18 Sep 2026 15:19:32 GMT