The thing is there are some laws that could apply, but the way that the public sees "law enforcement" creates this useful blindspot.

Many people, even people who think they aren't "MAGA" who don't like Trump and say they aren't racist will assume that if police shoot someone "there must have been a good reason"

It's unpleasant and uncomfortable to realize this isn't the case, not just in exceptional cases of "bad apples" but systemically. Over and over and over and over.

The frozen water army pricks are, of course, unhindered by any ROE, because fascism. It's scary AF.

There's the rub.

There's an enormous amount of effort, money and tech being used to switch off people's conscience.

Musk has gone so far as to explicitly attack human empathy.

Until we stop/slow the hatemongers, I'm not sure how we stop the decline of society.

What is IYO?

America desperate needs a serious discussion about what justifies deadly force.

"Failure to immediately comply" should not be one of them.

In my country it is rare that the police take out their weapon, let alone shoot.

The last time I remember when it was not against armed criminals it was a big drunk crowd cornering 4 agents. After the warning shots they resulted to “shoot to kill”

The racist oligarchs who own the media want to paint a narrative of racial division. If there were cross racial solidarity against these murders, it would shoot a hole in MAGA's narrative.

When I read 'shot in the back' I hear 'auf der Flucht erschossen'. I grew up in the Netherlands where the WWII Nazi occupation and its crimes were still living societal discourse.

control is all about owning the narrative, what is happening is they’re realizing they actually don’t have anyone on their side, so control is all they have left.

Yeah, it's easy for the police or border gestapo to get away with only a half-assed pretext or a clumsy lie. People look away. I can't blame them wanting to. But it's cowardice.

The protestors must have been too beautiful to show. I think news has become especially wary of showing multi-racial protests. The vision of suburban white ladies and little elderly black people and Latinos and and everyone all upset together that their neighbor was shot doesn't tell the right story.

A gun isn’t a pass. These murderers and murder defenders should be totally shunned, not served anywhere, not even looked in the face.

If you can't find that reason then the whole thing falls apart. Those who want a reason to think this made any sense, that it wasn't just random violence by the state will be supplied with a reason soon enough. They are looking for one as hard as they can.

Maybe the man was arrested once, maybe he has a friend who was arrested and that's kind of like being in a gang (give it a creepy name in Spanish) maybe they will find a butter knife in the car. A WEAPON.

The truth is that ICE shot a man, possibly the wrong man, possibly they lost their temper over nothing. The local people were instantly outraged and the police responded to shut down the protest even though in theory you are allowed to hold a sign and say what you want in America.

In theory. But, this kind of protest? The order is out to nip it in the bud.

The instinct to try to find a possibility that there was a good reason for a government employee to shoot a person in the back is something a lot of people need to do some work on, excise, examine, and become angry about, that the society they live in made them so craven.

And I think that's why they did not show the protestors, because when I did find images of them it was just a mirror, that could be me, that could be you. Crying and asking "Why? Why? Why did you shoot this man? Why did you try to kill him?"

I really think we need to raise the bar on what we consider a "good reason for being shot" but even by that standard. If you care (and you shouldn't) he didn't have a gun, he didn't attack the officers, he was even here legally it seems. If you care about that stuff. Which if you think about it is immaterial to shooting at someone to kill them.