<![CDATA[Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead"]]>Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead"

And then the app is just an Electron wrapper around the same JS they could have put on the website if they didn't hate you personally

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/f5932842-60b7-4e6d-84d0-413c0cd080ce/love-how-every-website-now-has-a-popup-that-tells-you-our-website-is-hot-dogshit-download-the-app-insteadRSS for NodeWed, 03 Jun 2026 18:04:06 GMTSat, 23 May 2026 09:52:54 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead" on Mon, 25 May 2026 08:17:00 GMT]]>@ghost_letters @TimWardCam @PavelASamsonov
That is a "Progressive Web App" (aka "PWA"). Yes a fair amount of discussion about them elsewhere in the discussion.
Basically they can do many of the things that native apps can do (background running, offline functionality, notification etc.) and can look like a normal app. Difference is that they are actually running in the browser so you don't have the potential privacy and security issues of a native app.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/jaark/statuses/116634223911496713https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/jaark/statuses/116634223911496713Mon, 25 May 2026 08:17:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead" on Mon, 25 May 2026 07:20:29 GMT]]>@vt52 Thanks. I am aware of all these reasons, but didn’t know about the effort you linked to, and I see quite a few friends in there! Appreciate it.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/mwichary/statuses/116634001704387889https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.online/users/mwichary/statuses/116634001704387889Mon, 25 May 2026 07:20:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead" on Sun, 24 May 2026 23:31:35 GMT]]>@PavelASamsonov

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/Onceoday/statuses/116632157944385913https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mstdn.social/users/Onceoday/statuses/116632157944385913Sun, 24 May 2026 23:31:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead" on Sun, 24 May 2026 21:55:10 GMT]]>@PavelASamsonov i avoid apps

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/hvanleeuwen/statuses/116631778775311530https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/hvanleeuwen/statuses/116631778775311530Sun, 24 May 2026 21:55:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead" on Sun, 24 May 2026 21:23:40 GMT]]>@PavelASamsonov Well, they are not lying, it's really better... for them, as it makes it easier for them to get your data.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://urusai.social/users/qgustavor/statuses/116631654940229400https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://urusai.social/users/qgustavor/statuses/116631654940229400Sun, 24 May 2026 21:23:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead" on Sun, 24 May 2026 20:57:05 GMT]]>@PavelASamsonov

They're selling the smart phone CONCEPT.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/rythur/statuses/116631550378935124https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/rythur/statuses/116631550378935124Sun, 24 May 2026 20:57:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead" on Sun, 24 May 2026 20:56:53 GMT]]>@PavelASamsonov Ehhh New York Times sucks anyways >_> They have done some corrupt shit like disparaging headlines against democratic candidates and that kind of thing. I think they ran something against Zohran Mamdani??!?! smh who even does that Zohran is like the best of us

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tech.lgbt/ap/users/115973601989364261/statuses/116631549635728959https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tech.lgbt/ap/users/115973601989364261/statuses/116631549635728959Sun, 24 May 2026 20:56:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead" on Sun, 24 May 2026 20:40:10 GMT]]>@TimWardCam @PavelASamsonov

It will add the site to your home screen. When you open it from the home screen it will have no URL bar. It can be styled a bit more.

A good portion of user will say "it is an app".

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/ghost_letters/statuses/116631483885591533https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/ghost_letters/statuses/116631483885591533Sun, 24 May 2026 20:40:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead" on Sun, 24 May 2026 20:15:14 GMT]]>@PavelASamsonov but the metrics from the app

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://wspanialy.eu/ap/users/115490670314082893/statuses/116631385862073665https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://wspanialy.eu/ap/users/115490670314082893/statuses/116631385862073665Sun, 24 May 2026 20:15:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead" on Sun, 24 May 2026 20:08:24 GMT]]>@PavelASamsonov death of the Internet vibes.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/darkghosthunter/statuses/116631358964680909https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/darkghosthunter/statuses/116631358964680909Sun, 24 May 2026 20:08:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead" on Sun, 24 May 2026 20:01:53 GMT]]>@PavelASamsonov idea: sell a web browser as "what if you could read news stories, order delivery, shop, watch online streams, etc., ALL IN ONE APP?"

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://status.nevillepark.ca/users/nev/statuses/01KSDS8TMK6TY90RSTXDNBN4T8https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://status.nevillepark.ca/users/nev/statuses/01KSDS8TMK6TY90RSTXDNBN4T8Sun, 24 May 2026 20:01:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead" on Sun, 24 May 2026 19:55:31 GMT]]>@PavelASamsonov yeah but now with the app they're able to suck way more PII from you.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.codefor.nl/ap/users/116630842160139743/statuses/116631308305461921https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.codefor.nl/ap/users/116630842160139743/statuses/116631308305461921Sun, 24 May 2026 19:55:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead" on Sun, 24 May 2026 19:54:51 GMT]]>@PavelASamsonov it's just annoying that you need a single site browser for everything nowadays, even my bank app is like this 😿

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://ioc.exchange/users/aho/statuses/116631305702401392https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://ioc.exchange/users/aho/statuses/116631305702401392Sun, 24 May 2026 19:54:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead" on Sun, 24 May 2026 19:53:59 GMT]]>@PavelASamsonov this is my favorite post from the past week 😂😂😂

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/ranvel/statuses/116631302299561001https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/ranvel/statuses/116631302299561001Sun, 24 May 2026 19:53:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead" on Sun, 24 May 2026 19:43:41 GMT]]>@PavelASamsonov I use an app to order from a restaurant because they will not keep me signed in.

It’s a web view.

That view asks to track me, in their own app. It’s asks to use my location. In their app. It tells me to sign in. *I AM*.

And yet somehow that’s still the better experience than just their site.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/foobarsoft/statuses/116631261743005280https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/foobarsoft/statuses/116631261743005280Sun, 24 May 2026 19:43:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead" on Sun, 24 May 2026 19:34:37 GMT]]>You get it, @PavelASamsonov

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mast.linuxgamecast.com/users/Ertain/statuses/116631226090041783https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mast.linuxgamecast.com/users/Ertain/statuses/116631226090041783Sun, 24 May 2026 19:34:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead" on Sun, 24 May 2026 19:32:49 GMT]]>@PavelASamsonov and then the app asks you to accept cookies

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://stolat.town/users/kos/statuses/116631219050196212https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://stolat.town/users/kos/statuses/116631219050196212Sun, 24 May 2026 19:32:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead" on Sun, 24 May 2026 19:29:46 GMT]]>@BillySmith @PavelASamsonov Which is kind of wild, considering what they can get already out of you using one of the common browsers…

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/bearbob/statuses/116631207073926362https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/bearbob/statuses/116631207073926362Sun, 24 May 2026 19:29:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead" on Sun, 24 May 2026 19:29:26 GMT]]>@paddyduke @PavelASamsonov "Wouldn't it be better if we were tracking you more aggressively?"

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/mcc/statuses/116631205750822539https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/mcc/statuses/116631205750822539Sun, 24 May 2026 19:29:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead" on Sun, 24 May 2026 19:28:26 GMT]]>@mwichary @PavelASamsonov this is intentional on the part of Apple: PWAs compete with apps that ship in their app store, and they can't get a cut of that sweet sweet app revenue if folks can just install the PWA for free...

and since they don't allow non-safari browser engines, they can keep their stranglehold over platform behavior and make sure that even if PWAs are like... legally required to be a first-class construct, Apple can continue to nerf them so they're not able to be as good.

see also: https://open-web-advocacy.org/

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://ioc.exchange/users/vt52/statuses/116631201830376175https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://ioc.exchange/users/vt52/statuses/116631201830376175Sun, 24 May 2026 19:28:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead" on Sun, 24 May 2026 19:23:42 GMT]]>@mwichary
It isn't in their interests to do that, of course. If everyone used web and PWAs, people could - shock horror - get out of the Apple/Google duopoly!
@PavelASamsonov

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/krnlg/statuses/116631183165878652https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/krnlg/statuses/116631183165878652Sun, 24 May 2026 19:23:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead" on Sun, 24 May 2026 19:23:03 GMT]]>@PavelASamsonov On some web sites Chrome has an "Install ..." button. I have no idea what this means, even after reading the help. It says something about a "web app" but I've no idea what that means either. What does installing a web site mean, and why might I want to do it?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://c.im/users/TimWardCam/statuses/116631180670927592https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://c.im/users/TimWardCam/statuses/116631180670927592Sun, 24 May 2026 19:23:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead" on Sun, 24 May 2026 14:14:04 GMT]]>@PavelASamsonov what's that saying, an app is just a website with a wrapper that strips your rights? I think @pluralistic says it better

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tiny.tilde.website/users/semitones/statuses/116629965694606477https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://tiny.tilde.website/users/semitones/statuses/116629965694606477Sun, 24 May 2026 14:14:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead" on Sun, 24 May 2026 09:31:47 GMT]]>@jwd630 @PavelASamsonov Selling me a premium subscription with Electron poison would make me instantly ignore any dialog or button giving me that option. However, if that subscription gave me access to a properly native app experience (UIKit or SwiftUI, no web views embedded), then I would consider subscribing if I enjoy the content and unsubscribing is easy.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://toot.community/users/Arcticulate/statuses/116628855675424196https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://toot.community/users/Arcticulate/statuses/116628855675424196Sun, 24 May 2026 09:31:47 GMT