Yes, I did mention alternative software for Logitech mice! Solaar looks awesome if you have a Logitech mouse. The mouse I mentioned can also switch between 3 devices, I think that’s a pretty common feature on most mice nowadays.

Definitely more of a hassle to replace the battery, but good to see it’s somewhat replaceable at least. AA batteries are a lot easier to replace though, you don’t need to pry out the mouse feet and it’s much quicker to swap it out when it runs out!

Rubber will wear out faster than a normal plastic finish, but if it has lasted for your hands that’s good too! I’ve just heard lots of people, particularly in humid climates, where the rubber disintegrates quickly. I’m from HK so humidity is a big issue, so this mouse isn’t a good option for me (if you live somewhere drier, it could be neat!)

And again, the one I have is really neat too with the fun colours (!!!) and magnetic grip thingy. The shape is more comfortable for me too, but hey our hands are all different

You have Solaar on Linux which does most of the same things. I use my MX Master on Linux and it’s solid.

https://github.com/pwr-Solaar/Solaar

Some logi options features are missing (sharing mouse across devices) and need to be accomplished with other programs, but it’s not a hardware issue. You can support 3 different devices on the bluetooth with the switch underneath. There’s multiple FOSS options for sharing a mouse between multiple multiple Linux/Windows/Mac. Youd need one anyways if you dont have a matching Logitech keyboard (I dont like their keyboards).

Its not AA batteries, but you can replace the battery. You have screws to take it apart. Minimal tools needed. Never had to change the battery yet. $20 fix though.

https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Logitech+MX+Master+Battery+Replacement/141816

I’ve used the “over $100” mouse every workday for the last 7 years and an older edition that works fine still for 4 years. (fast charging was worth the upgrade.)

It also works on virtually any surface. Wood desk, couch, bed, virtually anything will feel like a mouse pad.

Other than mild wear on the rubber, it is the definition of “buy for life”.

Especially the MX Master 3 and 3s. The 2 had a flaw with the thumb button breaking over time but it was fixable with 30 minutes of tinkering. Havent tried the 4.

Logitech Options doesn’t support Linux, so no, it’s not “well supported on everything”, though there are community made alternatives that seem really neat! I imagine the mouse itself does, but nearly all mice should work on Linux so Logitech is not unique in this

The MX Vertical is over $100, over five times the price of this cheap little guy, so I don’t think the price is worth it, especially since this cheap one has fun colours + a more comfortable shape for me (YOUR HANDS MAY VARY)

A bit unfortunate it’s not sold in other stores though

This community also allows for things that just last significantly longer than usual

for some of us that’s already “life”

life is “significantly longer than usual” indeed

But then one day one mouse button starts breaking: doing double clicks instead of single clicks or not registering that I keep the button pressed making drag and drop impossible.

I had that happen recently on a logitech G600 (apparently a lot of models of logitech mice use switches that are prone to early failure/hysteresis). I was able to purchase some replacement switches and fix it, though it did require a soldering iron and some rudimentary skills with it to do successfully (it’d actually make for a great first project to learn on).

I think most mice use the same generic switch design, so that should be viable to do with most of them once they start failing.

edit: It is on Amazon, for $30!

I don’t know about the Lemmy com as much, but the vibe I used to get from the Reddit BIFL community sometimes horsehoed back around to being something materialistic. I feel like avoiding planned obsolescence is important but so is maintaining stuff.

BIFL threads help with which brands to avoid and which to prioritise when you need to buy. I’m also subscribed to repair communities like !diy@lemmy.ml where the focus is on “maintaining stuff”. I think of BIFL as breadcrumbs for people who are sick of paying for things that won’t last a year’s use. We all value, i assume, what you wrote above.

The only drawback is when I used a standard mouse (totally horizontal), I used to switch hands and use it ambidextrously. Now I obviously can’t switch hands with these mice.

I think for someone who doesn’t experience persistent pain, a semi-vertical mouse may be well enough.

I’m curious. You use a stylus as a mouse replacement? Do you have a screen on your stylus for precision or is it just muscle memory?

muscle memory. I don’t even need to drag or move the cursor from one end of the screen to the other. I can just “touch” the other side and cursor jumps.

And when you need more precision (and feedback), hovering the stylus above the tablet is enough to move the cursor before touching.