<![CDATA["I’m European.]]>"I’m European. The whole continent is assumed to have a Google and a Meta account.

This is frightening. We are putting all our eggs in the same basket. And our milk, our water, our house, our furniture and our loved ones. In an electrical-auto-closing basket remotely controlled by a foreign entity that openly spies on us and wants to extract as much money as they can. For some reason, it is considered weird not to like the basket."

https://ploum.net/2026-09-02-i_dont_have_a_smartphone.html

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/topic/f8e107fb-1780-48c8-839a-5e2cbdfd1c4e/i-m-european.RSS for NodeTue, 22 Sep 2026 00:56:24 GMTSat, 05 Sep 2026 08:40:15 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to "I’m European. on Wed, 09 Sep 2026 15:29:21 GMT]]>@jpmens Graphene OS (https://grapheneos.org/) appears to be the best system to avoid Google and Apple dependencies with a quite secure operating system.

France is actively fighting it because (shuffles papers)... "may protect pedophiles".

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.radio/users/dl2jml/statuses/117241791204794113https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.radio/users/dl2jml/statuses/117241791204794113Wed, 09 Sep 2026 15:29:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "I’m European. on Sun, 06 Sep 2026 08:36:29 GMT]]>@jpmens
Hi @ploum , in your recent blog you write that "New EU regulations may also push more apps to check for the "Google Play Integrity" to ensure that they are running on a true Google owned Android."

Can you give any examples of what you're thinking about?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.data.coop/users/niels/statuses/117223180846360911https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://social.data.coop/users/niels/statuses/117223180846360911Sun, 06 Sep 2026 08:36:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "I’m European. on Sat, 05 Sep 2026 19:44:08 GMT]]>@herzleid @jurjen_heeck

Absolutely. It's closely related to analog privilege: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4528278

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fediscience.org/users/hweimer/statuses/117220143854744591https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fediscience.org/users/hweimer/statuses/117220143854744591Sat, 05 Sep 2026 19:44:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "I’m European. on Sat, 05 Sep 2026 15:01:11 GMT]]>@michal @jpmens the good news is that, due to the ICC judges being boycotted by American payment systems (amongst loads of US based services), the EU is now working on alternatives for Visa and MasterCard 🔥

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/Gina/statuses/117219031223117128https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/Gina/statuses/117219031223117128Sat, 05 Sep 2026 15:01:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "I’m European. on Sat, 05 Sep 2026 13:56:57 GMT]]>@jurjen_heeck @hweimer It also means you have the time, mental bandwidth and economical means to push back against the mainstream when you have to, buy the necessary non-Google/Apple devices and so on. To always avoid companies that don't provide options is a privilege not everyone is afforded.

It's more than just being tech savvy. It takes time, energy, money and some privilege to be able to do it.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://wandering.shop/users/herzleid/statuses/117218778652630824https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://wandering.shop/users/herzleid/statuses/117218778652630824Sat, 05 Sep 2026 13:56:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "I’m European. on Sat, 05 Sep 2026 12:56:21 GMT]]>@jpmens
We have just Visa o MC, so authorization is done via american network.

From bank i can withdraw, but i must pay fee. If i want more than 100000czk i have make even appointment 😕

Not ideal situation. In Germany they have at least EC card

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://vltava.cloud/users/michal/statuses/117218540345723471https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://vltava.cloud/users/michal/statuses/117218540345723471Sat, 05 Sep 2026 12:56:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "I’m European. on Sat, 05 Sep 2026 12:35:13 GMT]]>@zool @jpmens At least he acknowledged that it's the only way for him to not use it (seen some less insightful pieces where it was obvious but never stated that things had been offloaded to the spouse), but it would be nice to see one of these where the husband took the proverbial bullet so his wife won't have to be on Meta.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Mabande/statuses/117218457259747091https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Mabande/statuses/117218457259747091Sat, 05 Sep 2026 12:35:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "I’m European. on Sat, 05 Sep 2026 12:14:18 GMT]]>@michal you cannot, in .CZ, withdraw money from a bank account in person (cash) or with a bank card?

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/jpmens/statuses/117218374994836341https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.social/users/jpmens/statuses/117218374994836341Sat, 05 Sep 2026 12:14:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "I’m European. on Sat, 05 Sep 2026 12:09:30 GMT]]>@jpmens
Someone from EU betrayed us

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://vltava.cloud/users/michal/statuses/117218356101660678https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://vltava.cloud/users/michal/statuses/117218356101660678Sat, 05 Sep 2026 12:09:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "I’m European. on Sat, 05 Sep 2026 12:07:49 GMT]]>@jpmens

And it goes more far. Not just google or apple accounts.

It is also Visa and MasterCard dependency. Without America I literary can't survive.

My salary goes to my bank account (company don't have to give you cash). And then everything what am I buying needs America. I can't withdraw money without Visa or MC. I can't pay without it.

Heil America!

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://vltava.cloud/users/michal/statuses/117218349526888103https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://vltava.cloud/users/michal/statuses/117218349526888103Sat, 05 Sep 2026 12:07:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "I’m European. on Sat, 05 Sep 2026 10:21:06 GMT]]>@hweimer @jpmens This basically means that you are a lot more tech savvy and privacy aware than about 90% of Europeans. We're a small minority.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.nl/users/jurjen_heeck/statuses/117217929864773099https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.nl/users/jurjen_heeck/statuses/117217929864773099Sat, 05 Sep 2026 10:21:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "I’m European. on Sat, 05 Sep 2026 09:40:38 GMT]]>@jpmens

Interesting, I live in Europe as well, but my experience is very different. I have a Google-free phone running GrapheneOS and that's it. For banking, I have a small ChipTAN device, and for online payments, I use a FIDO2 token. If a company tried to force me using an app, I'd go somewhere else. Sometimes, you have to ask customer service for a non-app option, but even that is rare.

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fediscience.org/users/hweimer/statuses/117217770783407581https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://fediscience.org/users/hweimer/statuses/117217770783407581Sat, 05 Sep 2026 09:40:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "I’m European. on Sat, 05 Sep 2026 09:19:01 GMT]]>@jpmens lost me at "I'm living Meta-free because my wife is doing the social admin" 🤮

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://icosahedron.website/ap/users/116326195676445570/statuses/117217685742791381https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://icosahedron.website/ap/users/116326195676445570/statuses/117217685742791381Sat, 05 Sep 2026 09:19:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "I’m European. on Sat, 05 Sep 2026 09:06:56 GMT]]>@jpmens Yes. Citizenship is only available to Apple and Google customers. 🤮🤬

]]>https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.scot/users/FaithfullJohn/statuses/117217638237946045https://forum.fedi.dk/post/https://mastodon.scot/users/FaithfullJohn/statuses/117217638237946045Sat, 05 Sep 2026 09:06:56 GMT