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It gets tiring to write Piefed/Lemmy/Mbin to call our part of the Fediverse, is Threadiverse now the accepted term?

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  • blaze@lemmy.zipB blaze@lemmy.zip

    Gemini is both the Google AI and the network protocol, it seems clear which one you’re referring to depending on context

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    flamekebab@piefed.social
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    #22

    Arguably the context is very similar - it makes it seem like Threads is part of the “Threadiverse”. AFAIK it’s not? The fact that I don’t know is rather telling.

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    • blaze@lemmy.zipB blaze@lemmy.zip

      Gemini is both the Google AI and the network protocol, it seems clear which one you’re referring to depending on context

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      #23

      To us maybe, as we already know what the fediverse is. To newcomers and people who haven’t really heard of it yet, it sounds like Threads and its associated software.

      I’ve been on here for about two years, and I’m pretty sure that you were here before me. This stuff is part of our everyday language, whereas most people haven’t heard of Lemmy, Piefed, or Mbin. They’ve all seen the ads for Threads though

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      • blaze@lemmy.zipB blaze@lemmy.zip

        I used to say “Welcome to Lemmy” to new joiners, but nowadays quite a few of them join Piefed instance, having a generic term is easier

        You can’t follow Mastodon users from Lemmy or Piefed, using “Fedivers” seems too generic

        Previous post on the same topic: https://lemmy.zip/post/33451610

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        hendrik@palaver.p3x.de
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        #24

        We had some issues with the term “Threadiverse” when Meta’s Threads was on the rise and in public discourse. And people started confusing this with what Mark Zuckerberg does. But I think that toned down substantially. I think Threadiverse is a good term, we might as well try again and see if the confusion is still there. And I mean it’s a super niche term anyways to talk about a certain corner of a niche itself. So I guess it’s often embedded in a context and that’d help as well. I’d go for it. And the threads are the identifying mark of this place, so it fits.

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        • blaze@lemmy.zipB blaze@lemmy.zip

          I used to say “Welcome to Lemmy” to new joiners, but nowadays quite a few of them join Piefed instance, having a generic term is easier

          You can’t follow Mastodon users from Lemmy or Piefed, using “Fedivers” seems too generic

          Previous post on the same topic: https://lemmy.zip/post/33451610

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          veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          wrote on sidst redigeret af
          #25

          Just call it Fediverse.

          Fediverse can be part. Fediverse can be all. Fediverse is the all that federates with the bit. Fediverse ought. Fediverse will be. It’s even on Poob. Poob will federate it for you. Poob will federate it for you.

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          • V veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com

            Just call it Fediverse.

            Fediverse can be part. Fediverse can be all. Fediverse is the all that federates with the bit. Fediverse ought. Fediverse will be. It’s even on Poob. Poob will federate it for you. Poob will federate it for you.

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            blaze@lemmy.zip
            wrote on sidst redigeret af
            #26

            It doesn’t make sense to tell someone “Welcome to the Fediverse” when they join Piefed or Lemmy as they can’t follow Mastodon or Sharkey users

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            • flamekebab@piefed.socialF flamekebab@piefed.social

              Arguably the context is very similar - it makes it seem like Threads is part of the “Threadiverse”. AFAIK it’s not? The fact that I don’t know is rather telling.

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              blaze@lemmy.zip
              wrote on sidst redigeret af
              #27

              !piefed_meta@piefed.social has nothing to do with the Meta company

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              • blaze@lemmy.zipB blaze@lemmy.zip

                !piefed_meta@piefed.social has nothing to do with the Meta company

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                flamekebab@piefed.social
                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                #28

                I, uh, don’t know what you’re trying to say. I was talking about support for the ActivityPub protocol.

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                • blaze@lemmy.zipB blaze@lemmy.zip

                  It doesn’t make sense to tell someone “Welcome to the Fediverse” when they join Piefed or Lemmy as they can’t follow Mastodon or Sharkey users

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                  bonktheannoyed@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                  #29

                  Except that, apparently you can? A recent post I made on Lemmy had replies from Mastodon accounts afaict

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                  • B bonktheannoyed@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                    Except that, apparently you can? A recent post I made on Lemmy had replies from Mastodon accounts afaict

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                    revan343@lemmy.ca
                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                    #30

                    Interacting with Lemmy threads from Mastodon is easy, the inverse not so much

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                    • B bonktheannoyed@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                      Except that, apparently you can? A recent post I made on Lemmy had replies from Mastodon accounts afaict

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                      julian@activitypub.space
                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                      #31

                      Lemmy and Mastodon can interact (yay federation!) but you can’t follow microblog users from Lemmy.

                      Up until recently, communities couldn’t follow other communities, because it’s just not a “thing” Lemmy or Piefed do. Users follow communities, yeah?

                      Except NodeBB tries to have communities follow communities. 🙂

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                      • blaze@lemmy.zipB blaze@lemmy.zip

                        It doesn’t make sense to tell someone “Welcome to the Fediverse” when they join Piefed or Lemmy as they can’t follow Mastodon or Sharkey users

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                        veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                        #32

                        It’s still the Fediverse. While things are connected, not everything has to be absolutely connected. There’s still work to be done.

                        You can waxing poetically it if you want. “Welcome to our little corner of the Fediverse” etc.

                        Or, if you are really that hung up on this not being the Fediverse, call it the Lemmyverse or smth.

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                        • R revan343@lemmy.ca

                          Interacting with Lemmy threads from Mastodon is easy, the inverse not so much

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                          snoopy@tarte.nuage-libre.fr
                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                          #33

                          Yep only Mbin achieve that :3

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                          • snoopy@tarte.nuage-libre.frS snoopy@tarte.nuage-libre.fr

                            Yep only Mbin achieve that :3

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                            julian@activitypub.space
                            wrote on sidst redigeret af
                            #34

                            NodeBB too 😊

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                            • V veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                              It’s still the Fediverse. While things are connected, not everything has to be absolutely connected. There’s still work to be done.

                              You can waxing poetically it if you want. “Welcome to our little corner of the Fediverse” etc.

                              Or, if you are really that hung up on this not being the Fediverse, call it the Lemmyverse or smth.

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                              blaze@lemmy.zip
                              wrote on sidst redigeret af
                              #35

                              It’s still the Fediverse. While things are connected, not everything has to be absolutely connected. There’s still work to be done.

                              Except that’s the premise new joiners are told when they join the Fediverse “everything is connected”.

                              Turns out it’s not, you have Mbin/PieFed/Lemmy on one side, then Mastodon/Sharkey/Iceshrimp on another, and the support between both is rudimentary, as people commented below

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                              • flamekebab@piefed.socialF flamekebab@piefed.social

                                I, uh, don’t know what you’re trying to say. I was talking about support for the ActivityPub protocol.

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                                blaze@lemmy.zip
                                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                #36

                                I was referring to this comment ( https://discuss.tchncs.de/comment/21052151 )

                                And the word meta itself is used for meta communities on the Threadiverse which have nothing to do with Meta the company. Words existed before companies took them.

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                                • blaze@lemmy.zipB blaze@lemmy.zip

                                  I used to say “Welcome to Lemmy” to new joiners, but nowadays quite a few of them join Piefed instance, having a generic term is easier

                                  You can’t follow Mastodon users from Lemmy or Piefed, using “Fedivers” seems too generic

                                  Previous post on the same topic: https://lemmy.zip/post/33451610

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                                  hubertmanne@piefed.social
                                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                  #37

                                  I mean I call the fediverse the federation so I guess I should call it the threaderation

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                                  • blaze@lemmy.zipB blaze@lemmy.zip

                                    I used to say “Welcome to Lemmy” to new joiners, but nowadays quite a few of them join Piefed instance, having a generic term is easier

                                    You can’t follow Mastodon users from Lemmy or Piefed, using “Fedivers” seems too generic

                                    Previous post on the same topic: https://lemmy.zip/post/33451610

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                                    kolanaki@pawb.social
                                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                    #38

                                    Just keep it simple and say “The Good Internet.”

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                                    • H hubertmanne@piefed.social

                                      I mean I call the fediverse the federation so I guess I should call it the threaderation

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                                      julian@activitypub.space
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                                      #39

                                      The United Threaderation of Instances?

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                                      • blaze@lemmy.zipB blaze@lemmy.zip

                                        I was referring to this comment ( https://discuss.tchncs.de/comment/21052151 )

                                        And the word meta itself is used for meta communities on the Threadiverse which have nothing to do with Meta the company. Words existed before companies took them.

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                                        flamekebab@piefed.social
                                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                        #40

                                        So you didn’t mean to reply to me in the first place?

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                                        • blaze@lemmy.zipB blaze@lemmy.zip

                                          It’s still the Fediverse. While things are connected, not everything has to be absolutely connected. There’s still work to be done.

                                          Except that’s the premise new joiners are told when they join the Fediverse “everything is connected”.

                                          Turns out it’s not, you have Mbin/PieFed/Lemmy on one side, then Mastodon/Sharkey/Iceshrimp on another, and the support between both is rudimentary, as people commented below

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                                          fitik@fedia.io
                                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                          #41

                                          and the support between both is rudimentary, as people commented below

                                          Not on Mbin at least… I follow plenty of people from Mastodon/Other services from this MBin account and interact with them time from time

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