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So, is it getting quieter here in the #Fediverse; is it even dying?

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  • P panda_abyss@lemmy.ca

    I wonder if it’s New Year’s resolutions to quit Reddit?

    Either way, I like it here.

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    #8

    As this is a graph of comments and likes to posts by @heiseonline@social.heise.de - who don’t post to Lemmy/Piefed - it’s probably not related to Reddit. But quitting X is also a good new years resolution I guess. 🙂

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    • S schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de

      I think we need to ask this question separately for the microblogging fediverse and the “threadiverse” (i.e. Lemmy-compatible communities).

      The microblogging fediverse isn’t dying, I scroll through it every day, it’s one of my main sources of news (some of which I then post on Lemmy). I wouldn’t be able to keep up with much more than what I currently get into my feed there.

      The threadiverse meanwhile could definitely use much more activity. I hope it eventually becomes a place to discuss even the most niche topics imaginable, like web forums in their era…

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      blaze@piefed.zip
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      #9

      !fedigrow@lemmy.zip tries to assess the activity levels of regular posters, and it’s a bit quiet lately sometimes indeed

      What we can probably expect is some consolidation of inactive or barely active communities to get more activity in one place

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      • cabbage@piefed.socialC cabbage@piefed.social

        As this is a graph of comments and likes to posts by @heiseonline@social.heise.de - who don’t post to Lemmy/Piefed - it’s probably not related to Reddit. But quitting X is also a good new years resolution I guess. 🙂

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        panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
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        #10

        Huh, didn’t realize it was a cross post

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        • P panda_abyss@lemmy.ca

          I wonder if it’s New Year’s resolutions to quit Reddit?

          Either way, I like it here.

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          #11

          @panda_abyss @cabbage

          I always thought, that there's no month, where less people are on vacation, and that's why so many are reading the news.

          For us as a tech magazine, it's also CES which is in January.

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          • mho@social.heise.deM mho@social.heise.de

            @panda_abyss @cabbage

            I always thought, that there's no month, where less people are on vacation, and that's why so many are reading the news.

            For us as a tech magazine, it's also CES which is in January.

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            #12

            Both are good explanations, thanks!

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            • mho@social.heise.deM mho@social.heise.de

              So, is it getting quieter here in the #Fediverse; is it even dying?
              That I don't know, but I can add some data: At least for @heiseonline it seems to be the opposite; the number of comments and likes keeps on growing.

              @Mastodon @SocialMedia @fediverse

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              #13

              The threadiverse feels as active as usual imho. We still can’t really attract non-early adopters (i.e. privacy and FOSS enthusiasts), but the next reddit exodus is inevitable at some point.

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              • mho@social.heise.deM mho@social.heise.de

                So, is it getting quieter here in the #Fediverse; is it even dying?
                That I don't know, but I can add some data: At least for @heiseonline it seems to be the opposite; the number of comments and likes keeps on growing.

                @Mastodon @SocialMedia @fediverse

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                #14

                @mho @heiseonline @fediverse The lack of consistent federation between microblogging and threadiverse doesn't help either. For example on microblogging I can't see the comments from @Blaze towards @schnurrito because they were announced by the @fediverse to everyone, but mastodon just ignores it unless it's address to the OP.

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                • mho@social.heise.deM mho@social.heise.de

                  So, is it getting quieter here in the #Fediverse; is it even dying?
                  That I don't know, but I can add some data: At least for @heiseonline it seems to be the opposite; the number of comments and likes keeps on growing.

                  @Mastodon @SocialMedia @fediverse

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                  padeluun@digitalcourage.social
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                  #15

                  @mho @heiseonline @fediverse Auch hier bei uns ist ein leichter, aber stetiger Anstieg messbar.

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                  • db0@hachyderm.ioD db0@hachyderm.io

                    @mho @heiseonline @fediverse The lack of consistent federation between microblogging and threadiverse doesn't help either. For example on microblogging I can't see the comments from @Blaze towards @schnurrito because they were announced by the @fediverse to everyone, but mastodon just ignores it unless it's address to the OP.

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                    #16

                    @db0@hachyderm.io said in So, is it getting quieter here in the #Fediverse; is it even dying?:
                    > For example on microblogging I can’t see the comments from @Blaze towards @schnurrito because they were announced by the @fediverse to everyone,

                    Wait, doesn’t that mean you should see it?

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                      #17

                      @julian Yes, but if you don't follow the category, you don't see replies to other people in the same post.

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                      • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comD db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                        The threadiverse feels as active as usual imho. We still can’t really attract non-early adopters (i.e. privacy and FOSS enthusiasts), but the next reddit exodus is inevitable at some point.

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                        #18

                        I dunno, look at all that the Musk does to X (or better yet, don’t) but then people remain stuck on that platform, held hostage by the network effect or whatever other reason. Enshittification has progressed far enough that Lemmy is not well regarded on Reddit, a fact enhanced by posts talking about it being removed. People may be cutting back on Reddit, but they do not seem to be bringing those discussions here. Perhaps people are discoursing more IRL rather than social media.

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                        • S schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de

                          I think we need to ask this question separately for the microblogging fediverse and the “threadiverse” (i.e. Lemmy-compatible communities).

                          The microblogging fediverse isn’t dying, I scroll through it every day, it’s one of my main sources of news (some of which I then post on Lemmy). I wouldn’t be able to keep up with much more than what I currently get into my feed there.

                          The threadiverse meanwhile could definitely use much more activity. I hope it eventually becomes a place to discuss even the most niche topics imaginable, like web forums in their era…

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                          #19

                          Same. Mastodon is pretty good and useful. Lemmy is pretty meh.

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                          • mho@social.heise.deM mho@social.heise.de

                            @rupdecat @heiseonline @fediverse

                            I don't understand: This is a year-to-year comparison by month.

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                            #20

                            I think they mean comparing Jan 2023 with Jan 2024 and Jan 2025. Then seperately Feb 2023 with Feb 2024 and Feb 2025. Etc.

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                            • cabbage@piefed.socialC cabbage@piefed.social

                              As this is a graph of comments and likes to posts by @heiseonline@social.heise.de - who don’t post to Lemmy/Piefed - it’s probably not related to Reddit. But quitting X is also a good new years resolution I guess. 🙂

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                              #21

                              They definitely do post some of their posts directly into threadiverse communities, but xes most of the measured interactions here will by masto etc software

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                                #22

                                Yes, but if you don’t follow the community/category and stumble onto the post some other way (for example someone reposted it), then you wont see any of the comments

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                                • microw@piefed.zipM microw@piefed.zip

                                  Yes, but if you don’t follow the community/category and stumble onto the post some other way (for example someone reposted it), then you wont see any of the comments

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                                  #23

                                  Iirc. you’ll see comments towards the OP only (i.e. root comments, and replies to the OP explicitly). You will also not see comments non-OP microbloggers will send towards threadiverse users on other instances than where the community is in.

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                                  • microw@piefed.zipM microw@piefed.zip

                                    They definitely do post some of their posts directly into threadiverse communities, but xes most of the measured interactions here will by masto etc software

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                                    #24

                                    I didn’t realize—that’s pretty cool!

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                                    • mho@social.heise.deM mho@social.heise.de

                                      So, is it getting quieter here in the #Fediverse; is it even dying?
                                      That I don't know, but I can add some data: At least for @heiseonline it seems to be the opposite; the number of comments and likes keeps on growing.

                                      @Mastodon @SocialMedia @fediverse

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                                      #25

                                      I feel like there’s some kind of a ripple going through the Fediverse. Here’s my answer from a week ago

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                                      • microw@piefed.zipM microw@piefed.zip

                                        Yes, but if you don’t follow the community/category and stumble onto the post some other way (for example someone reposted it), then you wont see any of the comments

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                                        #26

                                        Okay, that’s fair. The hard requirement for a microblog user to have to follow the community is often too high a barrier (if only because it’s not immediately apparent that this needs be done)

                                        That said, Mastodon gets around patchy federation with mention spamming. Threadiverse gets around this with the distributor model (the community itself).

                                        I don’t know how to reconcile this from a technical perspective… yet.

                                        Also @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com this is in response to you as well.

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