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  • irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.comI irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com

    I don’t see why it has to end in verse. Like, boardnet sounds good (in my opinion), board network, because Lemmy/piefed is a network of boards.

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    blaze@piefed.zip
    wrote on sidst redigeret af
    #71

    Boardnet, doesn’t sound too bad indeed. Maybe you should post it somewhere as a suggested alternative to Threadiverse

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    • F flames5123@sh.itjust.works

      Let’s see if piefed is as open as it claims to be. The creator and maintainer actually injects their own opinion into the source code. There are so many deny lists and a social score built into the system.

      Piefed is great at putting in new features and making everything pretty. But it’s so opinionated, you’re better off on Reddit, imo.

      Source: https://lemmy.ml/comment/23662293

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      blaze@piefed.zip
      wrote on sidst redigeret af
      #72

      https://piefed.zip/c/fediverse/p/1005977/piefed-admin-settings-that-allow-to-enable-or-disable-content-filters-they-are-disabled-by#post_replies

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      • coelacanth@feddit.nuC coelacanth@feddit.nu

        Maybe this is showing my age and the association will not materialize in the minds of younger people, but boardnet makes me think of a bunch of old-school phpBB message board forums.

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        greybeard@feddit.online
        wrote on sidst redigeret af
        #73

        The forums I visited in those days was threaded, with trees to view commons. It was a proto version of the way Lemmy/Piefed/Reddit comments work, you just could only see one comment at a time. I never liked the flat style of PHPBB and the like.

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        • B brucethemoose@lemmy.world

          Every time I hear “censorship” cried in relation to piefed, I think of the same cries with Voat, another Reddit clone/refuge. It never compromised on that.

          And it turned into a (now long dead) toxic wasteland. As that ethos smothered all the interesting niche communities.

          IMO, the #1 Fediverse dev priority should be UX that discourages toxicity. That’s what will keep it alive. A militantly, forcibly “unbiased” UX is a quaint old internet ideal, yet it always seems to snowball into an unsustainable toxic monoculture.

          So, if piefed uses “opinionated” defaults to stave that off, good.

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          blaze@piefed.zip
          wrote on sidst redigeret af
          #74

          Thank you

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          • G greybeard@feddit.online

            The forums I visited in those days was threaded, with trees to view commons. It was a proto version of the way Lemmy/Piefed/Reddit comments work, you just could only see one comment at a time. I never liked the flat style of PHPBB and the like.

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            coelacanth@feddit.nu
            wrote on sidst redigeret af
            #75

            Really? I don’t have any memories of forums like that, only the old school flat threads with one comment at a time in chronological order.

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            • F flames5123@sh.itjust.works

              No, like posting a gif leads you to have -1 social score, hidden, because you posted a gif. There’s so many opinions in the code.

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              snoopy@tarte.nuage-libre.fr
              wrote on sidst redigeret af
              #76

              You have point but on the other side, its goal is to avoid karma farming and help mods, admins for creating a serene place for discussion.

              There is two distinct score : reputation, attitude.

              • Reputation is people’s reaction to your comment and post.
              • attitude is how you vote. If you do mass downvote, your ability to downvote is removed until you reach a balance between upvote/downvote.

              When we post a gif, and everyone laugh, it’s easy to get a good reputation whereas elsewhere, i might post several terrible comments. That’s why posting gif doesn’t credit you reputation. You can’t use gif to bypass bad comment and get a good reputation.

              That’s why it works like that.

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              • B brucethemoose@lemmy.world

                Every time I hear “censorship” cried in relation to piefed, I think of the same cries with Voat, another Reddit clone/refuge. It never compromised on that.

                And it turned into a (now long dead) toxic wasteland. As that ethos smothered all the interesting niche communities.

                IMO, the #1 Fediverse dev priority should be UX that discourages toxicity. That’s what will keep it alive. A militantly, forcibly “unbiased” UX is a quaint old internet ideal, yet it always seems to snowball into an unsustainable toxic monoculture.

                So, if piefed uses “opinionated” defaults to stave that off, good.

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                complexicate@lemmy.world
                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                #77

                It’s a good example of the Paradox of Tolerance:

                “if a society extends tolerance to those who are intolerant, it risks enabling the eventual dominance of intolerance, thereby undermining the very principle of tolerance”

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                • biltong@piefed.co.zaB biltong@piefed.co.za

                  Source: https://piefed.fediverse.observer/dailystats

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                  apftwb@lemmy.world
                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                  #78

                  I sure hope these are users and not bots…

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                  • A apftwb@lemmy.world

                    I sure hope these are users and not bots…

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                    skavau@piefed.social
                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                    #79

                    It’s from a few promotional posts on Reddit, so it’s users.

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                    • blaze@piefed.zipB blaze@piefed.zip

                      Welcome here!

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                      riquisimo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                      #80

                      Joke’s on you guys, I’m viewing this post from LEMMY!

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                      • S skavau@piefed.social

                        server speed

                        rocket - fast
                        lightning - medium

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                        prodigalfrog@slrpnk.net
                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                        #81

                        Hm, I wouldn’t have known rocket is faster, since lightning is instantaneous in real life.

                        Perhaps a speedometer at different speeds and color chunks (low adds first 3rd is filled green, medium adds yellow to the next 3rd, fast adds red to last chunk) would be more intuitive? Though that could also be interpreted as server capacity if the word speed isn’t next to the icon. Maybe a little icon legend somewhere nearby could help, or a question mark sign next to the speed icon that explains what it is?

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                        • prodigalfrog@slrpnk.netP prodigalfrog@slrpnk.net

                          Hm, I wouldn’t have known rocket is faster, since lightning is instantaneous in real life.

                          Perhaps a speedometer at different speeds and color chunks (low adds first 3rd is filled green, medium adds yellow to the next 3rd, fast adds red to last chunk) would be more intuitive? Though that could also be interpreted as server capacity if the word speed isn’t next to the icon. Maybe a little icon legend somewhere nearby could help, or a question mark sign next to the speed icon that explains what it is?

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                          skavau@piefed.social
                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                          #82

                          Yes, probably.

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                          • F flames5123@sh.itjust.works

                            Let’s see if piefed is as open as it claims to be. The creator and maintainer actually injects their own opinion into the source code. There are so many deny lists and a social score built into the system.

                            Piefed is great at putting in new features and making everything pretty. But it’s so opinionated, you’re better off on Reddit, imo.

                            Source: https://lemmy.ml/comment/23662293

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                            snoopy@tarte.nuage-libre.fr
                            wrote on sidst redigeret af
                            #83

                            I’m now intervening as a mod. The povokative passive-aggressive tone you used is a big no.

                            Please, can you edit your comment and just tell us that you disagree with the score system and remove your source and reddit part ?

                            Maybe you wanted to see your post removed for proving your point even futher as “See ? Piefed’s staff censorship ideas they doesn’t agree.”

                            I went to the your gif and read comments : you won’t see that kind of content here. I also asked users to edit their comment, here, when they critized lemmy and i expect you to do the same.

                            Our goal, is to create a serene space for discussion. Nothing more.

                            Yes, i disagree with lemmy dev’s political opinions but that’s not the main reason we enjoy Piefed. And when Nutomic asked me to share lemmy contact and documentation in iceshrimp dev’s channel, i helped him. 🙂

                            Let’s go back to your post :

                            • The beggining is aggressive. Are you testing if Piefed is open ?
                            • The meme link. We are from various countries, so the american flag…
                            • opiniated ? A software isn’t neutral, it follows our ideas. For example i enjoy the rational discourse toolkit. 🙂
                            • Reddit, was it necessary ? Last time i went there, i was surprised by the huge amount of bots and ads…we are better of on the fediverse, don’t you think ?

                            You can disagree with the score system, the no federated vote…and explain your point, why this and that…but not the way you did.

                            So please edit your comment and remove those above part

                            Users can choose what they prefer :

                            • the way communities are moderated and managed
                            • their software and its features, ui…

                            And i’m happy for them they can choose their favorite pie. If you prefer Lemmy, that’s great. 🙂

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                            • snoopy@tarte.nuage-libre.frS snoopy@tarte.nuage-libre.fr

                              I’m now intervening as a mod. The povokative passive-aggressive tone you used is a big no.

                              Please, can you edit your comment and just tell us that you disagree with the score system and remove your source and reddit part ?

                              Maybe you wanted to see your post removed for proving your point even futher as “See ? Piefed’s staff censorship ideas they doesn’t agree.”

                              I went to the your gif and read comments : you won’t see that kind of content here. I also asked users to edit their comment, here, when they critized lemmy and i expect you to do the same.

                              Our goal, is to create a serene space for discussion. Nothing more.

                              Yes, i disagree with lemmy dev’s political opinions but that’s not the main reason we enjoy Piefed. And when Nutomic asked me to share lemmy contact and documentation in iceshrimp dev’s channel, i helped him. 🙂

                              Let’s go back to your post :

                              • The beggining is aggressive. Are you testing if Piefed is open ?
                              • The meme link. We are from various countries, so the american flag…
                              • opiniated ? A software isn’t neutral, it follows our ideas. For example i enjoy the rational discourse toolkit. 🙂
                              • Reddit, was it necessary ? Last time i went there, i was surprised by the huge amount of bots and ads…we are better of on the fediverse, don’t you think ?

                              You can disagree with the score system, the no federated vote…and explain your point, why this and that…but not the way you did.

                              So please edit your comment and remove those above part

                              Users can choose what they prefer :

                              • the way communities are moderated and managed
                              • their software and its features, ui…

                              And i’m happy for them they can choose their favorite pie. If you prefer Lemmy, that’s great. 🙂

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                              flames5123@sh.itjust.works
                              wrote on sidst redigeret af
                              #84

                              I cannot use a tone via text easily: see Poe’s law. It was meant to be informative and sort of speculative to the future of Piefed. I was happy when Piefed came around but this changed my view a little. I want all federation to succeed but having these things be embedded in the code and not flags to set (even though you can turn most off) just strikes me as concerning. I’m glad users have choices though, but we will still call out bad choices, as many do when calling out shitty instances like hexbear or .ml.

                              I will not remove the source and my opinion on it. I’ve been nothing but civil and understanding in the replies to my post and it’s clear it’s an opinion with using “imo”.

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                              • coelacanth@feddit.nuC coelacanth@feddit.nu

                                Really? I don’t have any memories of forums like that, only the old school flat threads with one comment at a time in chronological order.

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                                greybeard@feddit.online
                                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                #85

                                It wasn’t a common format for sure. It was the forums for BYOND, a “game engine” specifically designed to make multiplayer games easily. You could think of it as a proto roblox.

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                                • biltong@piefed.co.zaB biltong@piefed.co.za

                                  I wish there was an option for the graph to start at zero.
                                  Graphs like this can be misleading.

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                                  squirrel@piefed.kobel.fyi
                                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                  #86

                                  I just found out you can freely increase the number of days via the URL on fediverse.observer

                                  https://piefed.fediverse.observer/dailystats&days=2000

                                  Now the graph starts at 0

                                  @HubertManne@piefed.social @EkHouVanBraai@piefed.co.za

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                                  • squirrel@piefed.kobel.fyiS squirrel@piefed.kobel.fyi

                                    I just found out you can freely increase the number of days via the URL on fediverse.observer

                                    https://piefed.fediverse.observer/dailystats&days=2000

                                    Now the graph starts at 0

                                    @HubertManne@piefed.social @EkHouVanBraai@piefed.co.za

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                                    biltong@piefed.co.za
                                    wrote on sidst redigeret af biltong@piefed.co.za
                                    #87

                                    image
                                    That graph looks pretty good. 🚀

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                                    • F flames5123@sh.itjust.works

                                      I cannot use a tone via text easily: see Poe’s law. It was meant to be informative and sort of speculative to the future of Piefed. I was happy when Piefed came around but this changed my view a little. I want all federation to succeed but having these things be embedded in the code and not flags to set (even though you can turn most off) just strikes me as concerning. I’m glad users have choices though, but we will still call out bad choices, as many do when calling out shitty instances like hexbear or .ml.

                                      I will not remove the source and my opinion on it. I’ve been nothing but civil and understanding in the replies to my post and it’s clear it’s an opinion with using “imo”.

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                                      snoopy@tarte.nuage-libre.fr
                                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                      #88

                                      Your “source” is not a source of information : It is a meme. It doesn’t create the conditions for discussion and debate. A meme doesn’t invite people to share their thinking, people react.

                                      That’s quite different from someone explaining that Piefed has a set of rules that rate our behaviour. The mood and reaction is quite different from there. Do you notice it ?

                                      No, i’m not asking you to remove your opinion that you disagree with piefed score. I never told you that. I’m asking you to rewrite your post and create a proper space for discussion. And i explained why above…

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                                      • snoopy@tarte.nuage-libre.frS snoopy@tarte.nuage-libre.fr

                                        Your “source” is not a source of information : It is a meme. It doesn’t create the conditions for discussion and debate. A meme doesn’t invite people to share their thinking, people react.

                                        That’s quite different from someone explaining that Piefed has a set of rules that rate our behaviour. The mood and reaction is quite different from there. Do you notice it ?

                                        No, i’m not asking you to remove your opinion that you disagree with piefed score. I never told you that. I’m asking you to rewrite your post and create a proper space for discussion. And i explained why above…

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                                        flames5123@sh.itjust.works
                                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                        #89

                                        I have already had a proper space for discussion. I’ve been civil in the replies. This is crazy to even be arguing about. If it’s a meme, why do you care? Are we to just discuss and bicker on the internet or create a better space?

                                        Remove it if you want for not conforming to your rules of speech. I’m done.

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                                        • F flames5123@sh.itjust.works

                                          Let’s see if piefed is as open as it claims to be. The creator and maintainer actually injects their own opinion into the source code. There are so many deny lists and a social score built into the system.

                                          Piefed is great at putting in new features and making everything pretty. But it’s so opinionated, you’re better off on Reddit, imo.

                                          Source: https://lemmy.ml/comment/23662293

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                                          hell_nah_brother@thelemmy.club
                                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                          #90

                                          Piefed is clearly an honeypot, you need to have severe brain injury to not understand it.

                                          “ah…i cant wait to have my hidden social score, let’s join this unknown pit of shite.” -not a cop

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