The highlighted division and factions of Lemmy.
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/55483749
Just a little thought I wanna discuss.
Unlike the more massive social media or the real world where theres not many leftists and we are gladly more united Lemmy and its left leaning tendencies with the instances providing natural cult grouping tendencies. Add to that the matrix in groups there and we all seem to be making a thing out of how to anger each other. How to troll each other or annoy x or y instance.
I hate this.
Living in an extreme right wing nation I know no other anarchist. A few left wingers. Even the libs here are right wing extremists by the standards of a western nation. I hold dear any solidarity.
I support unions here even when everyone there is a religious fundamentalist who wants sharia law bc they still qantnto improve the conditions of the working class.
Many folks here, who again I don’t have any hate for, I see intending these fights and dramas. Having the goal to be banned from x or y community or instance.
- Why!?!?
- What do you gain?
- What is the desire here??
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/55483749
Just a little thought I wanna discuss.
Unlike the more massive social media or the real world where theres not many leftists and we are gladly more united Lemmy and its left leaning tendencies with the instances providing natural cult grouping tendencies. Add to that the matrix in groups there and we all seem to be making a thing out of how to anger each other. How to troll each other or annoy x or y instance.
I hate this.
Living in an extreme right wing nation I know no other anarchist. A few left wingers. Even the libs here are right wing extremists by the standards of a western nation. I hold dear any solidarity.
I support unions here even when everyone there is a religious fundamentalist who wants sharia law bc they still qantnto improve the conditions of the working class.
Many folks here, who again I don’t have any hate for, I see intending these fights and dramas. Having the goal to be banned from x or y community or instance.
- Why!?!?
- What do you gain?
- What is the desire here??
Cross post to involve a different instance and not get too many .world responses
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/55483749
Just a little thought I wanna discuss.
Unlike the more massive social media or the real world where theres not many leftists and we are gladly more united Lemmy and its left leaning tendencies with the instances providing natural cult grouping tendencies. Add to that the matrix in groups there and we all seem to be making a thing out of how to anger each other. How to troll each other or annoy x or y instance.
I hate this.
Living in an extreme right wing nation I know no other anarchist. A few left wingers. Even the libs here are right wing extremists by the standards of a western nation. I hold dear any solidarity.
I support unions here even when everyone there is a religious fundamentalist who wants sharia law bc they still qantnto improve the conditions of the working class.
Many folks here, who again I don’t have any hate for, I see intending these fights and dramas. Having the goal to be banned from x or y community or instance.
- Why!?!?
- What do you gain?
- What is the desire here??
I think while you have a valid point here and it shouldn’t be like this… We still have to remember that we’re on the internet here. Plus the platform mimics lots of the negative dynamics and elements of the mainstream social media platforms. So that is, to a degree, why it is like it is. And people have various motivations. Some use it as a place to vent. Or they get entangled because it’s laid out to provoke negative engagement. Or they need to blast their opinions out there because that’s what we do these days and the Threadiverse is a reflection of it’s users and they’re embedded into the real world?!
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I think while you have a valid point here and it shouldn’t be like this… We still have to remember that we’re on the internet here. Plus the platform mimics lots of the negative dynamics and elements of the mainstream social media platforms. So that is, to a degree, why it is like it is. And people have various motivations. Some use it as a place to vent. Or they get entangled because it’s laid out to provoke negative engagement. Or they need to blast their opinions out there because that’s what we do these days and the Threadiverse is a reflection of it’s users and they’re embedded into the real world?!
Yeah. I try to offer people SO much grace and a benefit of doubt over everything. I ignore a rude tone, or baiting but my god its frustrating sometimes.
Lemmy is still a brilliant experience and better than any other social media platform ive ever been on.
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I think while you have a valid point here and it shouldn’t be like this… We still have to remember that we’re on the internet here. Plus the platform mimics lots of the negative dynamics and elements of the mainstream social media platforms. So that is, to a degree, why it is like it is. And people have various motivations. Some use it as a place to vent. Or they get entangled because it’s laid out to provoke negative engagement. Or they need to blast their opinions out there because that’s what we do these days and the Threadiverse is a reflection of it’s users and they’re embedded into the real world?!
I feel like not having a common enemy is an issue. We don’t have conservatives to dunk on so everyone is releasing that social media energy as you said on each other.
Obviously that also means even the worst places here aren’t as bad as other social media.
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I think while you have a valid point here and it shouldn’t be like this… We still have to remember that we’re on the internet here. Plus the platform mimics lots of the negative dynamics and elements of the mainstream social media platforms. So that is, to a degree, why it is like it is. And people have various motivations. Some use it as a place to vent. Or they get entangled because it’s laid out to provoke negative engagement. Or they need to blast their opinions out there because that’s what we do these days and the Threadiverse is a reflection of it’s users and they’re embedded into the real world?!
Not to mention the “proper gander” influence that seems to get more creative every year in fueling said negativity.
Imo people are pretty ok on average.
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Not to mention the “proper gander” influence that seems to get more creative every year in fueling said negativity.
Imo people are pretty ok on average.
Hmmh. And we tend to dwell in it. There’s quite some difference in what I see around me in the real world, and what people make it out to be, what they discuss. Heck, I’ve even heard the society in the USA, with all the trenched political warfare isn’t entirely like it’s portrayed and people are still able to share the place with their neighbours or co-workers.
It is deeply problematic, though. At least that’s my opinion. A substantial amount of people solely chase the outcry of the day, it’s mostly fabricated, plus almost always about what 2 “special” people decide to post on X/TruthSocial. And then everyone is subscribed to simple truths and has to take some extreme position. All the while we’re faced with real problems in the world and this mostly takes away and is meant to distract. I blame the attention economy and neoliberalism and I think it’s a multifaceted, severe issue with both society and technology. What we should do is have factual conversations and try to face the real challenges we’re faced with.
And I do see that as well. Several places on the internet are very nice. Of course not exempt from any general dynamics, but that’s part of the game. And once I talk to my neighbours or friends, I see how they’re almost exclusively nice people. And I think we can’t give up the internet either. That’s meant to be a home to constructive people as well, and to have useful debate. I think the Threadiverse has lots of room for improvement, but there’s a lot of people trying, and with quite some success.
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/55483749
Just a little thought I wanna discuss.
Unlike the more massive social media or the real world where theres not many leftists and we are gladly more united Lemmy and its left leaning tendencies with the instances providing natural cult grouping tendencies. Add to that the matrix in groups there and we all seem to be making a thing out of how to anger each other. How to troll each other or annoy x or y instance.
I hate this.
Living in an extreme right wing nation I know no other anarchist. A few left wingers. Even the libs here are right wing extremists by the standards of a western nation. I hold dear any solidarity.
I support unions here even when everyone there is a religious fundamentalist who wants sharia law bc they still qantnto improve the conditions of the working class.
Many folks here, who again I don’t have any hate for, I see intending these fights and dramas. Having the goal to be banned from x or y community or instance.
- Why!?!?
- What do you gain?
- What is the desire here??
Might be worth looking at the behaviour of so called leftists on Lemmy.
Many of them openly support and cheer for russia’s invasion of Ukraine and support summary killing of Ukrainians (“summary executions in Bucha [and beyond] is a BIA conspiracy!!!” is not a serious statement), openly state that Ukraine does not have the right to self-determination and generally support the extermination of Ukrainian culture, language and identity.
I am from Ukraine, from Donbas (Lugansk) no less. What sort of reaction do you expect when you see alleged leftists cheers for the total occupation of Lugansk by the Russians with BS like “Lugansk is free of da Nasizzz !1!1!”.
Or what about Jeromy Corbyn fanboys denying Corbyn’s open support for russian genocidal imperialism (keep in mind these type of things get reported in Ukrainian media)? The fucker literally worked for Russia Today (which is managed by russian intel) and cheered the annexation of Crimea in 2014.
As far as I am concerned, I hope all tankies meet the same fate as “Donbas Cowboy”, Russell Bentley.
Bentley’s wife, Lyudmila, then claimed that Russian soldiers from a tank battalion abducted him.
According to the Investigative Committee, Vansyatsky, Agaltsev, and Iordanov tortured Bentley on April 8, and he died shortly afterward.
Vansyatsky and Agaltsev are suspected of blowing up a car with Bentley’s body in it and ordering Bazhin to get rid of what was left of his remains.
Is this an unreasonable reaction to disgusting tankies? What reaction do you expect?
