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  • F frankm@radforum-duesseldorf.de
    20. jan. 2025, 20.19

    Many thanks. My nodebb test forum is on v4.0.0. By end of the week i will upgrade my main forum. 🍾

    Is the nodebb forum down?

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    julian@community.nodebb.org
    wrote on 20. jan. 2025, 21.27 sidst redigeret af
    #13

    @frankm@radforum-duesseldorf.de said in NodeBB v4.0.0 — Federate good times, come on!:
    > Is the nodebb forum down?

    It was for a bit, sorry about that! Some rather big names reshared this post and our small server fell over for a bit 🤣

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    • J julian@community.nodebb.org
      20. jan. 2025, 19.29

      Today’s the day! 🎉

      After nearly a full year in development, NodeBB v4.0.0 has landed, bringing federation between NodeBB instances (and a connection to the wider fediverse of social media) to forum software.

      Fedi-what?

      Fediverse! Here’s a TechCrunch primer about it, but at the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter. All you need to know is that NodeBB plugs in to a wider social network so that you don’t have to cultivate an audience, they’re already there.

      The genesis

      It was back in mid-2023 when I had the initial idea of interconnecting NodeBB forums. Back then, I had far smaller ambitions… I wanted a singular NodeBB to be able to communicate with other forums running NodeBB. To do that, we’d need to build out a centralized service to act as a bridge between instances, and corresponding slim clients on individual installs to consume the relayed data. At the time, concept like decentralization were not even part of my thought process.

      It was during this period when I was doing my research that I stumbled on Mastodon, and later, ActivityPub, the protocol that powers it all. Since then, it’s been one wild ride getting NodeBB to speak the same language.

      Funding

      Soon after dipping my toes into all that Mastodon had to offer, I discovered the NLNet Foundation, and their corresponding fund — NGI Zero Core. With the promise of funding, NodeBB could fully commit to implementing the protocol in short order, instead of piece by piece over time. We sent in an application and were delighted to be approved for the August 2023 call.

      Their funding was instrumental in providing the financial stability to experiment with ActivityPub and to participate in developer circles, such as the SWICG, FediForum, and much more.

      The fund continues to operate, perhaps you could benefit, or donate to the cause. It has certainly made a difference to NodeBB.

      Federate, or not, it’s your choice

      NodeBB v4 comes shipped with the capability to interact with other NodeBB forums and any other ActivityPub-speaking software, right out of the box. We opted to make this a core feature instead of a plugin, since there were many changes made to core to support even the concept of accepting content from outside itself.

      To that end, any users upgrading from v3.x will automatically have federation disabled, in order to reduce surprise. Any new forums will federate automatically.

      You can turn federation on and off (and adjust some other fun toggles) directly from ACP > Settings > Federation (ActivityPub).

      Even after turning federation on, how you use it shapes how well connected you will be. There is no centralized authority artificially boosting your content, so the name of the game is establishing two-way follow relationships to other sites.

      The ActivityPub Equalizer

      We’re not alone in this journey to interoperate with other decentralized services. We’re not even the only forum software to attempt to do so.

      • Discourse has a working plugin.
      • Ghost is building out in the open.

      I specifically highlight these two because they both started in the early 2010s, same as NodeBB. It’s always been a bit of an informal competition between us, and we always checked in on what the others were doing (growth-wise, pricing-wise, etc.) Truth be told, I don’t think the ghost team ever really noticed NodeBB, but I digress…

      The funny thing about ActivityPub is that at the end of the day, the overarching goal of seamless communication breaks down any barriers between competing organizations.

      NodeBB and Discourse have been vying for the exact same market share (forums, community-building, self-started or enterprise) for over 10 years, and it was only after ActivityPub came around that the dev teams even started talking to one another.

      Funny how that works.

      So how does it all work?

      Our documentation portal has been updated with the latest information about the ActivityPub functionality in v4.

      If you have any questions about how it works or how to configure some aspect of it, please don’t hesitate to reach out in the corresponding v4 support thread.

      If you run NodeBB, the quickest way to see this in action is to upgrade to v4, and then paste this post’s URL into your search bar. It should show up automatically, and you should be able to read and reply to it, directly from your own forum. Neat!

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      applewoi@mastodon.social
      wrote on 20. jan. 2025, 21.33 sidst redigeret af
      #14

      @julian

      BlueSky and Threads is NOT the #fediverse it is the opposite of.

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      • J julian@community.nodebb.org
        20. jan. 2025, 19.29

        Today’s the day! 🎉

        After nearly a full year in development, NodeBB v4.0.0 has landed, bringing federation between NodeBB instances (and a connection to the wider fediverse of social media) to forum software.

        Fedi-what?

        Fediverse! Here’s a TechCrunch primer about it, but at the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter. All you need to know is that NodeBB plugs in to a wider social network so that you don’t have to cultivate an audience, they’re already there.

        The genesis

        It was back in mid-2023 when I had the initial idea of interconnecting NodeBB forums. Back then, I had far smaller ambitions… I wanted a singular NodeBB to be able to communicate with other forums running NodeBB. To do that, we’d need to build out a centralized service to act as a bridge between instances, and corresponding slim clients on individual installs to consume the relayed data. At the time, concept like decentralization were not even part of my thought process.

        It was during this period when I was doing my research that I stumbled on Mastodon, and later, ActivityPub, the protocol that powers it all. Since then, it’s been one wild ride getting NodeBB to speak the same language.

        Funding

        Soon after dipping my toes into all that Mastodon had to offer, I discovered the NLNet Foundation, and their corresponding fund — NGI Zero Core. With the promise of funding, NodeBB could fully commit to implementing the protocol in short order, instead of piece by piece over time. We sent in an application and were delighted to be approved for the August 2023 call.

        Their funding was instrumental in providing the financial stability to experiment with ActivityPub and to participate in developer circles, such as the SWICG, FediForum, and much more.

        The fund continues to operate, perhaps you could benefit, or donate to the cause. It has certainly made a difference to NodeBB.

        Federate, or not, it’s your choice

        NodeBB v4 comes shipped with the capability to interact with other NodeBB forums and any other ActivityPub-speaking software, right out of the box. We opted to make this a core feature instead of a plugin, since there were many changes made to core to support even the concept of accepting content from outside itself.

        To that end, any users upgrading from v3.x will automatically have federation disabled, in order to reduce surprise. Any new forums will federate automatically.

        You can turn federation on and off (and adjust some other fun toggles) directly from ACP > Settings > Federation (ActivityPub).

        Even after turning federation on, how you use it shapes how well connected you will be. There is no centralized authority artificially boosting your content, so the name of the game is establishing two-way follow relationships to other sites.

        The ActivityPub Equalizer

        We’re not alone in this journey to interoperate with other decentralized services. We’re not even the only forum software to attempt to do so.

        • Discourse has a working plugin.
        • Ghost is building out in the open.

        I specifically highlight these two because they both started in the early 2010s, same as NodeBB. It’s always been a bit of an informal competition between us, and we always checked in on what the others were doing (growth-wise, pricing-wise, etc.) Truth be told, I don’t think the ghost team ever really noticed NodeBB, but I digress…

        The funny thing about ActivityPub is that at the end of the day, the overarching goal of seamless communication breaks down any barriers between competing organizations.

        NodeBB and Discourse have been vying for the exact same market share (forums, community-building, self-started or enterprise) for over 10 years, and it was only after ActivityPub came around that the dev teams even started talking to one another.

        Funny how that works.

        So how does it all work?

        Our documentation portal has been updated with the latest information about the ActivityPub functionality in v4.

        If you have any questions about how it works or how to configure some aspect of it, please don’t hesitate to reach out in the corresponding v4 support thread.

        If you run NodeBB, the quickest way to see this in action is to upgrade to v4, and then paste this post’s URL into your search bar. It should show up automatically, and you should be able to read and reply to it, directly from your own forum. Neat!

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        thanius@mastodon.chuggybumba.com
        wrote on 20. jan. 2025, 21.36 sidst redigeret af
        #15

        @julian Welcome to the network! Fediverse is the real vision of the internet!

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          atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org
          wrote on 20. jan. 2025, 21.45 sidst redigeret af
          #16

          Bulletin boards (a.k.a., “forums”) have never gone away. Actually, they’re more popular than ever.

          Reddit, for example, is basically a giant bulletin board.

          Facebook Groups are forums – bolted onto Facebook itself – and probably a major reason people still use Facebook.

          Numerous help desk software, such as Zendesk, use bulletin boards as a major selling point of their platform.

          And the reason why @nodebb@fosstodon.org federating is such a big deal is because a major request many people have regarding the #Fediverse is bulletin board capabilities. This now exists with NodeBB 4.0.0 – which was just released today.

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          • ? Gæst
            20. jan. 2025, 20.33

            @atomicpoet discourse too. I'm golng to try to talk one discourse I'm in into turning on federation. Hopefully more existing bbs can start federating because that would be awesome!

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            julian@community.nodebb.org
            wrote on 20. jan. 2025, 21.46 sidst redigeret af
            #17

            @thomasjwebb@mastodon.social definitely do it, it’s a force multiplier in getting your content out, especially if you’ve built up an audience.

            Discourse’s AP integration is currently partially two-way. New topics and posts are federated outward to the fediverse, and replies federate in. There’s currently no facility to discover new content from the fediverse and interact with it from Discourse.

            From the start I’ve wanted NodeBB to be the fediverse client I use, so it supports full two-way communication with content discovery (via the dedicated /world page) from followed users.

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            • J julian@community.nodebb.org
              20. jan. 2025, 19.29

              Today’s the day! 🎉

              After nearly a full year in development, NodeBB v4.0.0 has landed, bringing federation between NodeBB instances (and a connection to the wider fediverse of social media) to forum software.

              Fedi-what?

              Fediverse! Here’s a TechCrunch primer about it, but at the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter. All you need to know is that NodeBB plugs in to a wider social network so that you don’t have to cultivate an audience, they’re already there.

              The genesis

              It was back in mid-2023 when I had the initial idea of interconnecting NodeBB forums. Back then, I had far smaller ambitions… I wanted a singular NodeBB to be able to communicate with other forums running NodeBB. To do that, we’d need to build out a centralized service to act as a bridge between instances, and corresponding slim clients on individual installs to consume the relayed data. At the time, concept like decentralization were not even part of my thought process.

              It was during this period when I was doing my research that I stumbled on Mastodon, and later, ActivityPub, the protocol that powers it all. Since then, it’s been one wild ride getting NodeBB to speak the same language.

              Funding

              Soon after dipping my toes into all that Mastodon had to offer, I discovered the NLNet Foundation, and their corresponding fund — NGI Zero Core. With the promise of funding, NodeBB could fully commit to implementing the protocol in short order, instead of piece by piece over time. We sent in an application and were delighted to be approved for the August 2023 call.

              Their funding was instrumental in providing the financial stability to experiment with ActivityPub and to participate in developer circles, such as the SWICG, FediForum, and much more.

              The fund continues to operate, perhaps you could benefit, or donate to the cause. It has certainly made a difference to NodeBB.

              Federate, or not, it’s your choice

              NodeBB v4 comes shipped with the capability to interact with other NodeBB forums and any other ActivityPub-speaking software, right out of the box. We opted to make this a core feature instead of a plugin, since there were many changes made to core to support even the concept of accepting content from outside itself.

              To that end, any users upgrading from v3.x will automatically have federation disabled, in order to reduce surprise. Any new forums will federate automatically.

              You can turn federation on and off (and adjust some other fun toggles) directly from ACP > Settings > Federation (ActivityPub).

              Even after turning federation on, how you use it shapes how well connected you will be. There is no centralized authority artificially boosting your content, so the name of the game is establishing two-way follow relationships to other sites.

              The ActivityPub Equalizer

              We’re not alone in this journey to interoperate with other decentralized services. We’re not even the only forum software to attempt to do so.

              • Discourse has a working plugin.
              • Ghost is building out in the open.

              I specifically highlight these two because they both started in the early 2010s, same as NodeBB. It’s always been a bit of an informal competition between us, and we always checked in on what the others were doing (growth-wise, pricing-wise, etc.) Truth be told, I don’t think the ghost team ever really noticed NodeBB, but I digress…

              The funny thing about ActivityPub is that at the end of the day, the overarching goal of seamless communication breaks down any barriers between competing organizations.

              NodeBB and Discourse have been vying for the exact same market share (forums, community-building, self-started or enterprise) for over 10 years, and it was only after ActivityPub came around that the dev teams even started talking to one another.

              Funny how that works.

              So how does it all work?

              Our documentation portal has been updated with the latest information about the ActivityPub functionality in v4.

              If you have any questions about how it works or how to configure some aspect of it, please don’t hesitate to reach out in the corresponding v4 support thread.

              If you run NodeBB, the quickest way to see this in action is to upgrade to v4, and then paste this post’s URL into your search bar. It should show up automatically, and you should be able to read and reply to it, directly from your own forum. Neat!

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              farooqkz@blackrock.city
              wrote on 20. jan. 2025, 21.48 sidst redigeret af
              #18

              @julian

              Congratulations! That's really cool! Looking forward to see this feature added to Discourse and other BBs as well!

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                filene@dragon.style
                wrote on 20. jan. 2025, 22.08 sidst redigeret af
                #19

                @julian I'm excited!! This is how I wanted to hear about nodebb!!

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                  ex_06@puntarella.party
                  wrote on 20. jan. 2025, 22.47 sidst redigeret af
                  #20

                  3 things:
                  - is @luceos flarum coming soon also?
                  - the nodebb yunohost package has something weird going on cause i cannot find where is my admin account and if i have one at all lol
                  - congratulations @julian !

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                  • E ex_06@puntarella.party
                    20. jan. 2025, 22.47

                    3 things:
                    - is @luceos flarum coming soon also?
                    - the nodebb yunohost package has something weird going on cause i cannot find where is my admin account and if i have one at all lol
                    - congratulations @julian !

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                    julian@community.nodebb.org
                    wrote on 20. jan. 2025, 22.55 sidst redigeret af
                    #21

                    @ex_06@puntarella.party a lot of the one-click services for NodeBB are run by third parties, so you’ll have to reach out to them for help.

                    I don’t usually recommend one or the other, but I do know @cloudron@social.cloudron.io is on the fediverse… 👀👀👀

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                    • J julian@community.nodebb.org
                      20. jan. 2025, 19.29

                      Today’s the day! 🎉

                      After nearly a full year in development, NodeBB v4.0.0 has landed, bringing federation between NodeBB instances (and a connection to the wider fediverse of social media) to forum software.

                      Fedi-what?

                      Fediverse! Here’s a TechCrunch primer about it, but at the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter. All you need to know is that NodeBB plugs in to a wider social network so that you don’t have to cultivate an audience, they’re already there.

                      The genesis

                      It was back in mid-2023 when I had the initial idea of interconnecting NodeBB forums. Back then, I had far smaller ambitions… I wanted a singular NodeBB to be able to communicate with other forums running NodeBB. To do that, we’d need to build out a centralized service to act as a bridge between instances, and corresponding slim clients on individual installs to consume the relayed data. At the time, concept like decentralization were not even part of my thought process.

                      It was during this period when I was doing my research that I stumbled on Mastodon, and later, ActivityPub, the protocol that powers it all. Since then, it’s been one wild ride getting NodeBB to speak the same language.

                      Funding

                      Soon after dipping my toes into all that Mastodon had to offer, I discovered the NLNet Foundation, and their corresponding fund — NGI Zero Core. With the promise of funding, NodeBB could fully commit to implementing the protocol in short order, instead of piece by piece over time. We sent in an application and were delighted to be approved for the August 2023 call.

                      Their funding was instrumental in providing the financial stability to experiment with ActivityPub and to participate in developer circles, such as the SWICG, FediForum, and much more.

                      The fund continues to operate, perhaps you could benefit, or donate to the cause. It has certainly made a difference to NodeBB.

                      Federate, or not, it’s your choice

                      NodeBB v4 comes shipped with the capability to interact with other NodeBB forums and any other ActivityPub-speaking software, right out of the box. We opted to make this a core feature instead of a plugin, since there were many changes made to core to support even the concept of accepting content from outside itself.

                      To that end, any users upgrading from v3.x will automatically have federation disabled, in order to reduce surprise. Any new forums will federate automatically.

                      You can turn federation on and off (and adjust some other fun toggles) directly from ACP > Settings > Federation (ActivityPub).

                      Even after turning federation on, how you use it shapes how well connected you will be. There is no centralized authority artificially boosting your content, so the name of the game is establishing two-way follow relationships to other sites.

                      The ActivityPub Equalizer

                      We’re not alone in this journey to interoperate with other decentralized services. We’re not even the only forum software to attempt to do so.

                      • Discourse has a working plugin.
                      • Ghost is building out in the open.

                      I specifically highlight these two because they both started in the early 2010s, same as NodeBB. It’s always been a bit of an informal competition between us, and we always checked in on what the others were doing (growth-wise, pricing-wise, etc.) Truth be told, I don’t think the ghost team ever really noticed NodeBB, but I digress…

                      The funny thing about ActivityPub is that at the end of the day, the overarching goal of seamless communication breaks down any barriers between competing organizations.

                      NodeBB and Discourse have been vying for the exact same market share (forums, community-building, self-started or enterprise) for over 10 years, and it was only after ActivityPub came around that the dev teams even started talking to one another.

                      Funny how that works.

                      So how does it all work?

                      Our documentation portal has been updated with the latest information about the ActivityPub functionality in v4.

                      If you have any questions about how it works or how to configure some aspect of it, please don’t hesitate to reach out in the corresponding v4 support thread.

                      If you run NodeBB, the quickest way to see this in action is to upgrade to v4, and then paste this post’s URL into your search bar. It should show up automatically, and you should be able to read and reply to it, directly from your own forum. Neat!

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                      johnmidity@mastodon.social
                      wrote on 20. jan. 2025, 22.57 sidst redigeret af
                      #22

                      @julian
                      Fantastic news!
                      Greetings from Mastodon.

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                        creek@mspsocial.net
                        wrote on 20. jan. 2025, 23.20 sidst redigeret af
                        #23

                        @julian this is really neat.

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                        • A atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org
                          20. jan. 2025, 21.45

                          Bulletin boards (a.k.a., “forums”) have never gone away. Actually, they’re more popular than ever.

                          Reddit, for example, is basically a giant bulletin board.

                          Facebook Groups are forums – bolted onto Facebook itself – and probably a major reason people still use Facebook.

                          Numerous help desk software, such as Zendesk, use bulletin boards as a major selling point of their platform.

                          And the reason why @nodebb@fosstodon.org federating is such a big deal is because a major request many people have regarding the #Fediverse is bulletin board capabilities. This now exists with NodeBB 4.0.0 – which was just released today.

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                          rnbastos@mas.erb.pw
                          wrote on 20. jan. 2025, 23.35 sidst redigeret af
                          #24

                          @atomicpoet @nodebb BBS FOREVER

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                          • J julian@community.nodebb.org
                            20. jan. 2025, 19.29

                            Today’s the day! 🎉

                            After nearly a full year in development, NodeBB v4.0.0 has landed, bringing federation between NodeBB instances (and a connection to the wider fediverse of social media) to forum software.

                            Fedi-what?

                            Fediverse! Here’s a TechCrunch primer about it, but at the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter. All you need to know is that NodeBB plugs in to a wider social network so that you don’t have to cultivate an audience, they’re already there.

                            The genesis

                            It was back in mid-2023 when I had the initial idea of interconnecting NodeBB forums. Back then, I had far smaller ambitions… I wanted a singular NodeBB to be able to communicate with other forums running NodeBB. To do that, we’d need to build out a centralized service to act as a bridge between instances, and corresponding slim clients on individual installs to consume the relayed data. At the time, concept like decentralization were not even part of my thought process.

                            It was during this period when I was doing my research that I stumbled on Mastodon, and later, ActivityPub, the protocol that powers it all. Since then, it’s been one wild ride getting NodeBB to speak the same language.

                            Funding

                            Soon after dipping my toes into all that Mastodon had to offer, I discovered the NLNet Foundation, and their corresponding fund — NGI Zero Core. With the promise of funding, NodeBB could fully commit to implementing the protocol in short order, instead of piece by piece over time. We sent in an application and were delighted to be approved for the August 2023 call.

                            Their funding was instrumental in providing the financial stability to experiment with ActivityPub and to participate in developer circles, such as the SWICG, FediForum, and much more.

                            The fund continues to operate, perhaps you could benefit, or donate to the cause. It has certainly made a difference to NodeBB.

                            Federate, or not, it’s your choice

                            NodeBB v4 comes shipped with the capability to interact with other NodeBB forums and any other ActivityPub-speaking software, right out of the box. We opted to make this a core feature instead of a plugin, since there were many changes made to core to support even the concept of accepting content from outside itself.

                            To that end, any users upgrading from v3.x will automatically have federation disabled, in order to reduce surprise. Any new forums will federate automatically.

                            You can turn federation on and off (and adjust some other fun toggles) directly from ACP > Settings > Federation (ActivityPub).

                            Even after turning federation on, how you use it shapes how well connected you will be. There is no centralized authority artificially boosting your content, so the name of the game is establishing two-way follow relationships to other sites.

                            The ActivityPub Equalizer

                            We’re not alone in this journey to interoperate with other decentralized services. We’re not even the only forum software to attempt to do so.

                            • Discourse has a working plugin.
                            • Ghost is building out in the open.

                            I specifically highlight these two because they both started in the early 2010s, same as NodeBB. It’s always been a bit of an informal competition between us, and we always checked in on what the others were doing (growth-wise, pricing-wise, etc.) Truth be told, I don’t think the ghost team ever really noticed NodeBB, but I digress…

                            The funny thing about ActivityPub is that at the end of the day, the overarching goal of seamless communication breaks down any barriers between competing organizations.

                            NodeBB and Discourse have been vying for the exact same market share (forums, community-building, self-started or enterprise) for over 10 years, and it was only after ActivityPub came around that the dev teams even started talking to one another.

                            Funny how that works.

                            So how does it all work?

                            Our documentation portal has been updated with the latest information about the ActivityPub functionality in v4.

                            If you have any questions about how it works or how to configure some aspect of it, please don’t hesitate to reach out in the corresponding v4 support thread.

                            If you run NodeBB, the quickest way to see this in action is to upgrade to v4, and then paste this post’s URL into your search bar. It should show up automatically, and you should be able to read and reply to it, directly from your own forum. Neat!

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                            jdp23@blahaj.zone
                            wrote on 20. jan. 2025, 23.41 sidst redigeret af
                            #25

                            @julian@community.nodebb.org Congrats, and thanks to you and NodeBB for doing the work -- and NLNet for the funding! It's really exciting to see ... and timely, too!

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                            • J julian@community.nodebb.org
                              20. jan. 2025, 19.29

                              Today’s the day! 🎉

                              After nearly a full year in development, NodeBB v4.0.0 has landed, bringing federation between NodeBB instances (and a connection to the wider fediverse of social media) to forum software.

                              Fedi-what?

                              Fediverse! Here’s a TechCrunch primer about it, but at the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter. All you need to know is that NodeBB plugs in to a wider social network so that you don’t have to cultivate an audience, they’re already there.

                              The genesis

                              It was back in mid-2023 when I had the initial idea of interconnecting NodeBB forums. Back then, I had far smaller ambitions… I wanted a singular NodeBB to be able to communicate with other forums running NodeBB. To do that, we’d need to build out a centralized service to act as a bridge between instances, and corresponding slim clients on individual installs to consume the relayed data. At the time, concept like decentralization were not even part of my thought process.

                              It was during this period when I was doing my research that I stumbled on Mastodon, and later, ActivityPub, the protocol that powers it all. Since then, it’s been one wild ride getting NodeBB to speak the same language.

                              Funding

                              Soon after dipping my toes into all that Mastodon had to offer, I discovered the NLNet Foundation, and their corresponding fund — NGI Zero Core. With the promise of funding, NodeBB could fully commit to implementing the protocol in short order, instead of piece by piece over time. We sent in an application and were delighted to be approved for the August 2023 call.

                              Their funding was instrumental in providing the financial stability to experiment with ActivityPub and to participate in developer circles, such as the SWICG, FediForum, and much more.

                              The fund continues to operate, perhaps you could benefit, or donate to the cause. It has certainly made a difference to NodeBB.

                              Federate, or not, it’s your choice

                              NodeBB v4 comes shipped with the capability to interact with other NodeBB forums and any other ActivityPub-speaking software, right out of the box. We opted to make this a core feature instead of a plugin, since there were many changes made to core to support even the concept of accepting content from outside itself.

                              To that end, any users upgrading from v3.x will automatically have federation disabled, in order to reduce surprise. Any new forums will federate automatically.

                              You can turn federation on and off (and adjust some other fun toggles) directly from ACP > Settings > Federation (ActivityPub).

                              Even after turning federation on, how you use it shapes how well connected you will be. There is no centralized authority artificially boosting your content, so the name of the game is establishing two-way follow relationships to other sites.

                              The ActivityPub Equalizer

                              We’re not alone in this journey to interoperate with other decentralized services. We’re not even the only forum software to attempt to do so.

                              • Discourse has a working plugin.
                              • Ghost is building out in the open.

                              I specifically highlight these two because they both started in the early 2010s, same as NodeBB. It’s always been a bit of an informal competition between us, and we always checked in on what the others were doing (growth-wise, pricing-wise, etc.) Truth be told, I don’t think the ghost team ever really noticed NodeBB, but I digress…

                              The funny thing about ActivityPub is that at the end of the day, the overarching goal of seamless communication breaks down any barriers between competing organizations.

                              NodeBB and Discourse have been vying for the exact same market share (forums, community-building, self-started or enterprise) for over 10 years, and it was only after ActivityPub came around that the dev teams even started talking to one another.

                              Funny how that works.

                              So how does it all work?

                              Our documentation portal has been updated with the latest information about the ActivityPub functionality in v4.

                              If you have any questions about how it works or how to configure some aspect of it, please don’t hesitate to reach out in the corresponding v4 support thread.

                              If you run NodeBB, the quickest way to see this in action is to upgrade to v4, and then paste this post’s URL into your search bar. It should show up automatically, and you should be able to read and reply to it, directly from your own forum. Neat!

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                              weirdwriter@caneandable.social
                              wrote on 21. jan. 2025, 00.02 sidst redigeret af
                              #26

                              @julian Testing a reply! By the way, the post is nicely formatted on Mastodon!

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                              • J julian@community.nodebb.org
                                20. jan. 2025, 19.29

                                Today’s the day! 🎉

                                After nearly a full year in development, NodeBB v4.0.0 has landed, bringing federation between NodeBB instances (and a connection to the wider fediverse of social media) to forum software.

                                Fedi-what?

                                Fediverse! Here’s a TechCrunch primer about it, but at the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter. All you need to know is that NodeBB plugs in to a wider social network so that you don’t have to cultivate an audience, they’re already there.

                                The genesis

                                It was back in mid-2023 when I had the initial idea of interconnecting NodeBB forums. Back then, I had far smaller ambitions… I wanted a singular NodeBB to be able to communicate with other forums running NodeBB. To do that, we’d need to build out a centralized service to act as a bridge between instances, and corresponding slim clients on individual installs to consume the relayed data. At the time, concept like decentralization were not even part of my thought process.

                                It was during this period when I was doing my research that I stumbled on Mastodon, and later, ActivityPub, the protocol that powers it all. Since then, it’s been one wild ride getting NodeBB to speak the same language.

                                Funding

                                Soon after dipping my toes into all that Mastodon had to offer, I discovered the NLNet Foundation, and their corresponding fund — NGI Zero Core. With the promise of funding, NodeBB could fully commit to implementing the protocol in short order, instead of piece by piece over time. We sent in an application and were delighted to be approved for the August 2023 call.

                                Their funding was instrumental in providing the financial stability to experiment with ActivityPub and to participate in developer circles, such as the SWICG, FediForum, and much more.

                                The fund continues to operate, perhaps you could benefit, or donate to the cause. It has certainly made a difference to NodeBB.

                                Federate, or not, it’s your choice

                                NodeBB v4 comes shipped with the capability to interact with other NodeBB forums and any other ActivityPub-speaking software, right out of the box. We opted to make this a core feature instead of a plugin, since there were many changes made to core to support even the concept of accepting content from outside itself.

                                To that end, any users upgrading from v3.x will automatically have federation disabled, in order to reduce surprise. Any new forums will federate automatically.

                                You can turn federation on and off (and adjust some other fun toggles) directly from ACP > Settings > Federation (ActivityPub).

                                Even after turning federation on, how you use it shapes how well connected you will be. There is no centralized authority artificially boosting your content, so the name of the game is establishing two-way follow relationships to other sites.

                                The ActivityPub Equalizer

                                We’re not alone in this journey to interoperate with other decentralized services. We’re not even the only forum software to attempt to do so.

                                • Discourse has a working plugin.
                                • Ghost is building out in the open.

                                I specifically highlight these two because they both started in the early 2010s, same as NodeBB. It’s always been a bit of an informal competition between us, and we always checked in on what the others were doing (growth-wise, pricing-wise, etc.) Truth be told, I don’t think the ghost team ever really noticed NodeBB, but I digress…

                                The funny thing about ActivityPub is that at the end of the day, the overarching goal of seamless communication breaks down any barriers between competing organizations.

                                NodeBB and Discourse have been vying for the exact same market share (forums, community-building, self-started or enterprise) for over 10 years, and it was only after ActivityPub came around that the dev teams even started talking to one another.

                                Funny how that works.

                                So how does it all work?

                                Our documentation portal has been updated with the latest information about the ActivityPub functionality in v4.

                                If you have any questions about how it works or how to configure some aspect of it, please don’t hesitate to reach out in the corresponding v4 support thread.

                                If you run NodeBB, the quickest way to see this in action is to upgrade to v4, and then paste this post’s URL into your search bar. It should show up automatically, and you should be able to read and reply to it, directly from your own forum. Neat!

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                                jaredwhite@indieweb.social
                                wrote on 21. jan. 2025, 02.55 sidst redigeret af
                                #27

                                @julian This is absolutely fantastic news! 🎉

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                                • J julian@community.nodebb.org
                                  20. jan. 2025, 19.29

                                  Today’s the day! 🎉

                                  After nearly a full year in development, NodeBB v4.0.0 has landed, bringing federation between NodeBB instances (and a connection to the wider fediverse of social media) to forum software.

                                  Fedi-what?

                                  Fediverse! Here’s a TechCrunch primer about it, but at the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter. All you need to know is that NodeBB plugs in to a wider social network so that you don’t have to cultivate an audience, they’re already there.

                                  The genesis

                                  It was back in mid-2023 when I had the initial idea of interconnecting NodeBB forums. Back then, I had far smaller ambitions… I wanted a singular NodeBB to be able to communicate with other forums running NodeBB. To do that, we’d need to build out a centralized service to act as a bridge between instances, and corresponding slim clients on individual installs to consume the relayed data. At the time, concept like decentralization were not even part of my thought process.

                                  It was during this period when I was doing my research that I stumbled on Mastodon, and later, ActivityPub, the protocol that powers it all. Since then, it’s been one wild ride getting NodeBB to speak the same language.

                                  Funding

                                  Soon after dipping my toes into all that Mastodon had to offer, I discovered the NLNet Foundation, and their corresponding fund — NGI Zero Core. With the promise of funding, NodeBB could fully commit to implementing the protocol in short order, instead of piece by piece over time. We sent in an application and were delighted to be approved for the August 2023 call.

                                  Their funding was instrumental in providing the financial stability to experiment with ActivityPub and to participate in developer circles, such as the SWICG, FediForum, and much more.

                                  The fund continues to operate, perhaps you could benefit, or donate to the cause. It has certainly made a difference to NodeBB.

                                  Federate, or not, it’s your choice

                                  NodeBB v4 comes shipped with the capability to interact with other NodeBB forums and any other ActivityPub-speaking software, right out of the box. We opted to make this a core feature instead of a plugin, since there were many changes made to core to support even the concept of accepting content from outside itself.

                                  To that end, any users upgrading from v3.x will automatically have federation disabled, in order to reduce surprise. Any new forums will federate automatically.

                                  You can turn federation on and off (and adjust some other fun toggles) directly from ACP > Settings > Federation (ActivityPub).

                                  Even after turning federation on, how you use it shapes how well connected you will be. There is no centralized authority artificially boosting your content, so the name of the game is establishing two-way follow relationships to other sites.

                                  The ActivityPub Equalizer

                                  We’re not alone in this journey to interoperate with other decentralized services. We’re not even the only forum software to attempt to do so.

                                  • Discourse has a working plugin.
                                  • Ghost is building out in the open.

                                  I specifically highlight these two because they both started in the early 2010s, same as NodeBB. It’s always been a bit of an informal competition between us, and we always checked in on what the others were doing (growth-wise, pricing-wise, etc.) Truth be told, I don’t think the ghost team ever really noticed NodeBB, but I digress…

                                  The funny thing about ActivityPub is that at the end of the day, the overarching goal of seamless communication breaks down any barriers between competing organizations.

                                  NodeBB and Discourse have been vying for the exact same market share (forums, community-building, self-started or enterprise) for over 10 years, and it was only after ActivityPub came around that the dev teams even started talking to one another.

                                  Funny how that works.

                                  So how does it all work?

                                  Our documentation portal has been updated with the latest information about the ActivityPub functionality in v4.

                                  If you have any questions about how it works or how to configure some aspect of it, please don’t hesitate to reach out in the corresponding v4 support thread.

                                  If you run NodeBB, the quickest way to see this in action is to upgrade to v4, and then paste this post’s URL into your search bar. It should show up automatically, and you should be able to read and reply to it, directly from your own forum. Neat!

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                                  michael@newsmast.social
                                  wrote on 21. jan. 2025, 06.10 sidst redigeret af
                                  #28

                                  @julian Wonderful news! Congratulations! 🥳

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                                  • E ex_06@puntarella.party
                                    20. jan. 2025, 22.47

                                    3 things:
                                    - is @luceos flarum coming soon also?
                                    - the nodebb yunohost package has something weird going on cause i cannot find where is my admin account and if i have one at all lol
                                    - congratulations @julian !

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                                    luceos@fosstodon.org
                                    wrote on 21. jan. 2025, 07.14 sidst redigeret af
                                    #29

                                    @ex_06 @julian although I am very excited about federation, due to my burnout and financial situation I haven't been able to pursue this feature and we dropped it from our NLnet grant. I'm hoping to dive into it again as part of a future 2.x release.

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                                    • A atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org
                                      20. jan. 2025, 21.45

                                      Bulletin boards (a.k.a., “forums”) have never gone away. Actually, they’re more popular than ever.

                                      Reddit, for example, is basically a giant bulletin board.

                                      Facebook Groups are forums – bolted onto Facebook itself – and probably a major reason people still use Facebook.

                                      Numerous help desk software, such as Zendesk, use bulletin boards as a major selling point of their platform.

                                      And the reason why @nodebb@fosstodon.org federating is such a big deal is because a major request many people have regarding the #Fediverse is bulletin board capabilities. This now exists with NodeBB 4.0.0 – which was just released today.

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                                      felwert@fedihum.org
                                      wrote on 21. jan. 2025, 08.51 sidst redigeret af
                                      #30

                                      @atomicpoet @nodebb I agree! Since you mentioned reddit: Weren’t lemmy and kbin also supposed to be federated forums for the fediverse?

                                      J 1 Reply Last reply 21. jan. 2025, 13.45
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                                      • L luceos@fosstodon.org
                                        21. jan. 2025, 07.14

                                        @ex_06 @julian although I am very excited about federation, due to my burnout and financial situation I haven't been able to pursue this feature and we dropped it from our NLnet grant. I'm hoping to dive into it again as part of a future 2.x release.

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                                        ex_06@puntarella.party
                                        wrote on 21. jan. 2025, 08.59 sidst redigeret af
                                        #31

                                        @luceos @julian

                                        Damn… Take care 🙏

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                                        • julian@community.nodebb.orgJ julian@community.nodebb.org
                                          20. jan. 2025, 19.29

                                          Today’s the day! 🎉

                                          After nearly a full year in development, NodeBB v4.0.0 has landed, bringing federation between NodeBB instances (and a connection to the wider fediverse of social media) to forum software.

                                          Fedi-what?

                                          Fediverse! Here’s a TechCrunch primer about it, but at the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter. All you need to know is that NodeBB plugs in to a wider social network so that you don’t have to cultivate an audience, they’re already there.

                                          The genesis

                                          It was back in mid-2023 when I had the initial idea of interconnecting NodeBB forums. Back then, I had far smaller ambitions… I wanted a singular NodeBB to be able to communicate with other forums running NodeBB. To do that, we’d need to build out a centralized service to act as a bridge between instances, and corresponding slim clients on individual installs to consume the relayed data. At the time, concept like decentralization were not even part of my thought process.

                                          It was during this period when I was doing my research that I stumbled on Mastodon, and later, ActivityPub, the protocol that powers it all. Since then, it’s been one wild ride getting NodeBB to speak the same language.

                                          Funding

                                          Soon after dipping my toes into all that Mastodon had to offer, I discovered the NLNet Foundation, and their corresponding fund — NGI Zero Core. With the promise of funding, NodeBB could fully commit to implementing the protocol in short order, instead of piece by piece over time. We sent in an application and were delighted to be approved for the August 2023 call.

                                          Their funding was instrumental in providing the financial stability to experiment with ActivityPub and to participate in developer circles, such as the SWICG, FediForum, and much more.

                                          The fund continues to operate, perhaps you could benefit, or donate to the cause. It has certainly made a difference to NodeBB.

                                          Federate, or not, it’s your choice

                                          NodeBB v4 comes shipped with the capability to interact with other NodeBB forums and any other ActivityPub-speaking software, right out of the box. We opted to make this a core feature instead of a plugin, since there were many changes made to core to support even the concept of accepting content from outside itself.

                                          To that end, any users upgrading from v3.x will automatically have federation disabled, in order to reduce surprise. Any new forums will federate automatically.

                                          You can turn federation on and off (and adjust some other fun toggles) directly from ACP > Settings > Federation (ActivityPub).

                                          Even after turning federation on, how you use it shapes how well connected you will be. There is no centralized authority artificially boosting your content, so the name of the game is establishing two-way follow relationships to other sites.

                                          The ActivityPub Equalizer

                                          We’re not alone in this journey to interoperate with other decentralized services. We’re not even the only forum software to attempt to do so.

                                          • Discourse has a working plugin.
                                          • Ghost is building out in the open.

                                          I specifically highlight these two because they both started in the early 2010s, same as NodeBB. It’s always been a bit of an informal competition between us, and we always checked in on what the others were doing (growth-wise, pricing-wise, etc.) Truth be told, I don’t think the ghost team ever really noticed NodeBB, but I digress…

                                          The funny thing about ActivityPub is that at the end of the day, the overarching goal of seamless communication breaks down any barriers between competing organizations.

                                          NodeBB and Discourse have been vying for the exact same market share (forums, community-building, self-started or enterprise) for over 10 years, and it was only after ActivityPub came around that the dev teams even started talking to one another.

                                          Funny how that works.

                                          So how does it all work?

                                          Our documentation portal has been updated with the latest information about the ActivityPub functionality in v4.

                                          If you have any questions about how it works or how to configure some aspect of it, please don’t hesitate to reach out in the corresponding v4 support thread.

                                          If you run NodeBB, the quickest way to see this in action is to upgrade to v4, and then paste this post’s URL into your search bar. It should show up automatically, and you should be able to read and reply to it, directly from your own forum. Neat!

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                                          newsmast@newsmast.social
                                          wrote on 21. jan. 2025, 10.16 sidst redigeret af
                                          #32

                                          @julian

                                          Congratulations! 🎉

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