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  • J julian@community.nodebb.org
    20. jan. 2025, 19.29

    Today’s the day! 🎉

    After nearly a full year in development, NodeBB v4.0.0 has landed, bringing federation between NodeBB instances (and a connection to the wider fediverse of social media) to forum software.

    Fedi-what?

    Fediverse! Here’s a TechCrunch primer about it, but at the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter. All you need to know is that NodeBB plugs in to a wider social network so that you don’t have to cultivate an audience, they’re already there.

    The genesis

    It was back in mid-2023 when I had the initial idea of interconnecting NodeBB forums. Back then, I had far smaller ambitions… I wanted a singular NodeBB to be able to communicate with other forums running NodeBB. To do that, we’d need to build out a centralized service to act as a bridge between instances, and corresponding slim clients on individual installs to consume the relayed data. At the time, concept like decentralization were not even part of my thought process.

    It was during this period when I was doing my research that I stumbled on Mastodon, and later, ActivityPub, the protocol that powers it all. Since then, it’s been one wild ride getting NodeBB to speak the same language.

    Funding

    Soon after dipping my toes into all that Mastodon had to offer, I discovered the NLNet Foundation, and their corresponding fund — NGI Zero Core. With the promise of funding, NodeBB could fully commit to implementing the protocol in short order, instead of piece by piece over time. We sent in an application and were delighted to be approved for the August 2023 call.

    Their funding was instrumental in providing the financial stability to experiment with ActivityPub and to participate in developer circles, such as the SWICG, FediForum, and much more.

    The fund continues to operate, perhaps you could benefit, or donate to the cause. It has certainly made a difference to NodeBB.

    Federate, or not, it’s your choice

    NodeBB v4 comes shipped with the capability to interact with other NodeBB forums and any other ActivityPub-speaking software, right out of the box. We opted to make this a core feature instead of a plugin, since there were many changes made to core to support even the concept of accepting content from outside itself.

    To that end, any users upgrading from v3.x will automatically have federation disabled, in order to reduce surprise. Any new forums will federate automatically.

    You can turn federation on and off (and adjust some other fun toggles) directly from ACP > Settings > Federation (ActivityPub).

    Even after turning federation on, how you use it shapes how well connected you will be. There is no centralized authority artificially boosting your content, so the name of the game is establishing two-way follow relationships to other sites.

    The ActivityPub Equalizer

    We’re not alone in this journey to interoperate with other decentralized services. We’re not even the only forum software to attempt to do so.

    • Discourse has a working plugin.
    • Ghost is building out in the open.

    I specifically highlight these two because they both started in the early 2010s, same as NodeBB. It’s always been a bit of an informal competition between us, and we always checked in on what the others were doing (growth-wise, pricing-wise, etc.) Truth be told, I don’t think the ghost team ever really noticed NodeBB, but I digress…

    The funny thing about ActivityPub is that at the end of the day, the overarching goal of seamless communication breaks down any barriers between competing organizations.

    NodeBB and Discourse have been vying for the exact same market share (forums, community-building, self-started or enterprise) for over 10 years, and it was only after ActivityPub came around that the dev teams even started talking to one another.

    Funny how that works.

    So how does it all work?

    Our documentation portal has been updated with the latest information about the ActivityPub functionality in v4.

    If you have any questions about how it works or how to configure some aspect of it, please don’t hesitate to reach out in the corresponding v4 support thread.

    If you run NodeBB, the quickest way to see this in action is to upgrade to v4, and then paste this post’s URL into your search bar. It should show up automatically, and you should be able to read and reply to it, directly from your own forum. Neat!

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    tux@burningboard.net
    wrote on 21. jan. 2025, 20.20 sidst redigeret af
    #44

    @julian

    Welcome to Fediverse 🙋‍♂️

    sent from a German Mastodon instance

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      skullvalanche@gladtech.social
      wrote on 22. jan. 2025, 04.12 sidst redigeret af
      #45

      @julian this is fantastic. Thanks for your hard work!

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      • F fedihacker@masto.es
        21. jan. 2025, 14.09

        @julian It's great. I saw first a link to your website and I could not reply from my Mastodon account. I had to find the post through Mastodon itself.

        Maybe in the future you could add the possibility to reply from mastodon account.

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        die4ever@programming.dev
        wrote on 22. jan. 2025, 05.15 sidst redigeret af
        #46

        Typically you copy the URL of the original post and paste that URL into your own instance’s search bar

        Did that not work?

        this is how I did it and it worked

        https://programming.dev/pictrs/image/de16776e-1bca-4eef-905c-db292521748a.png

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        • J julian@community.nodebb.org
          20. jan. 2025, 19.29

          Today’s the day! 🎉

          After nearly a full year in development, NodeBB v4.0.0 has landed, bringing federation between NodeBB instances (and a connection to the wider fediverse of social media) to forum software.

          Fedi-what?

          Fediverse! Here’s a TechCrunch primer about it, but at the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter. All you need to know is that NodeBB plugs in to a wider social network so that you don’t have to cultivate an audience, they’re already there.

          The genesis

          It was back in mid-2023 when I had the initial idea of interconnecting NodeBB forums. Back then, I had far smaller ambitions… I wanted a singular NodeBB to be able to communicate with other forums running NodeBB. To do that, we’d need to build out a centralized service to act as a bridge between instances, and corresponding slim clients on individual installs to consume the relayed data. At the time, concept like decentralization were not even part of my thought process.

          It was during this period when I was doing my research that I stumbled on Mastodon, and later, ActivityPub, the protocol that powers it all. Since then, it’s been one wild ride getting NodeBB to speak the same language.

          Funding

          Soon after dipping my toes into all that Mastodon had to offer, I discovered the NLNet Foundation, and their corresponding fund — NGI Zero Core. With the promise of funding, NodeBB could fully commit to implementing the protocol in short order, instead of piece by piece over time. We sent in an application and were delighted to be approved for the August 2023 call.

          Their funding was instrumental in providing the financial stability to experiment with ActivityPub and to participate in developer circles, such as the SWICG, FediForum, and much more.

          The fund continues to operate, perhaps you could benefit, or donate to the cause. It has certainly made a difference to NodeBB.

          Federate, or not, it’s your choice

          NodeBB v4 comes shipped with the capability to interact with other NodeBB forums and any other ActivityPub-speaking software, right out of the box. We opted to make this a core feature instead of a plugin, since there were many changes made to core to support even the concept of accepting content from outside itself.

          To that end, any users upgrading from v3.x will automatically have federation disabled, in order to reduce surprise. Any new forums will federate automatically.

          You can turn federation on and off (and adjust some other fun toggles) directly from ACP > Settings > Federation (ActivityPub).

          Even after turning federation on, how you use it shapes how well connected you will be. There is no centralized authority artificially boosting your content, so the name of the game is establishing two-way follow relationships to other sites.

          The ActivityPub Equalizer

          We’re not alone in this journey to interoperate with other decentralized services. We’re not even the only forum software to attempt to do so.

          • Discourse has a working plugin.
          • Ghost is building out in the open.

          I specifically highlight these two because they both started in the early 2010s, same as NodeBB. It’s always been a bit of an informal competition between us, and we always checked in on what the others were doing (growth-wise, pricing-wise, etc.) Truth be told, I don’t think the ghost team ever really noticed NodeBB, but I digress…

          The funny thing about ActivityPub is that at the end of the day, the overarching goal of seamless communication breaks down any barriers between competing organizations.

          NodeBB and Discourse have been vying for the exact same market share (forums, community-building, self-started or enterprise) for over 10 years, and it was only after ActivityPub came around that the dev teams even started talking to one another.

          Funny how that works.

          So how does it all work?

          Our documentation portal has been updated with the latest information about the ActivityPub functionality in v4.

          If you have any questions about how it works or how to configure some aspect of it, please don’t hesitate to reach out in the corresponding v4 support thread.

          If you run NodeBB, the quickest way to see this in action is to upgrade to v4, and then paste this post’s URL into your search bar. It should show up automatically, and you should be able to read and reply to it, directly from your own forum. Neat!

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          panos@catodon.social
          wrote on 22. jan. 2025, 08.53 sidst redigeret af
          #47

          @julian Congratulations, this is very exciting! Your "World" feed is very close to what I had suggested back in 2023 for Calckey, and it shows how flexible the fediverse can be - it's a different way to read your fedi content, instead of the usual microblogging style! Very cool 😃

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          • J julian@community.nodebb.org
            20. jan. 2025, 19.29

            Today’s the day! 🎉

            After nearly a full year in development, NodeBB v4.0.0 has landed, bringing federation between NodeBB instances (and a connection to the wider fediverse of social media) to forum software.

            Fedi-what?

            Fediverse! Here’s a TechCrunch primer about it, but at the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter. All you need to know is that NodeBB plugs in to a wider social network so that you don’t have to cultivate an audience, they’re already there.

            The genesis

            It was back in mid-2023 when I had the initial idea of interconnecting NodeBB forums. Back then, I had far smaller ambitions… I wanted a singular NodeBB to be able to communicate with other forums running NodeBB. To do that, we’d need to build out a centralized service to act as a bridge between instances, and corresponding slim clients on individual installs to consume the relayed data. At the time, concept like decentralization were not even part of my thought process.

            It was during this period when I was doing my research that I stumbled on Mastodon, and later, ActivityPub, the protocol that powers it all. Since then, it’s been one wild ride getting NodeBB to speak the same language.

            Funding

            Soon after dipping my toes into all that Mastodon had to offer, I discovered the NLNet Foundation, and their corresponding fund — NGI Zero Core. With the promise of funding, NodeBB could fully commit to implementing the protocol in short order, instead of piece by piece over time. We sent in an application and were delighted to be approved for the August 2023 call.

            Their funding was instrumental in providing the financial stability to experiment with ActivityPub and to participate in developer circles, such as the SWICG, FediForum, and much more.

            The fund continues to operate, perhaps you could benefit, or donate to the cause. It has certainly made a difference to NodeBB.

            Federate, or not, it’s your choice

            NodeBB v4 comes shipped with the capability to interact with other NodeBB forums and any other ActivityPub-speaking software, right out of the box. We opted to make this a core feature instead of a plugin, since there were many changes made to core to support even the concept of accepting content from outside itself.

            To that end, any users upgrading from v3.x will automatically have federation disabled, in order to reduce surprise. Any new forums will federate automatically.

            You can turn federation on and off (and adjust some other fun toggles) directly from ACP > Settings > Federation (ActivityPub).

            Even after turning federation on, how you use it shapes how well connected you will be. There is no centralized authority artificially boosting your content, so the name of the game is establishing two-way follow relationships to other sites.

            The ActivityPub Equalizer

            We’re not alone in this journey to interoperate with other decentralized services. We’re not even the only forum software to attempt to do so.

            • Discourse has a working plugin.
            • Ghost is building out in the open.

            I specifically highlight these two because they both started in the early 2010s, same as NodeBB. It’s always been a bit of an informal competition between us, and we always checked in on what the others were doing (growth-wise, pricing-wise, etc.) Truth be told, I don’t think the ghost team ever really noticed NodeBB, but I digress…

            The funny thing about ActivityPub is that at the end of the day, the overarching goal of seamless communication breaks down any barriers between competing organizations.

            NodeBB and Discourse have been vying for the exact same market share (forums, community-building, self-started or enterprise) for over 10 years, and it was only after ActivityPub came around that the dev teams even started talking to one another.

            Funny how that works.

            So how does it all work?

            Our documentation portal has been updated with the latest information about the ActivityPub functionality in v4.

            If you have any questions about how it works or how to configure some aspect of it, please don’t hesitate to reach out in the corresponding v4 support thread.

            If you run NodeBB, the quickest way to see this in action is to upgrade to v4, and then paste this post’s URL into your search bar. It should show up automatically, and you should be able to read and reply to it, directly from your own forum. Neat!

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            toddalstrom@mastodon.social
            wrote on 22. jan. 2025, 09.19 sidst redigeret af
            #48

            @julian Damn. I wish BeerAdvocate wasn’t stuck with XenForo. But also congrats! 🍻

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            • J julian@community.nodebb.org
              20. jan. 2025, 19.29

              Today’s the day! 🎉

              After nearly a full year in development, NodeBB v4.0.0 has landed, bringing federation between NodeBB instances (and a connection to the wider fediverse of social media) to forum software.

              Fedi-what?

              Fediverse! Here’s a TechCrunch primer about it, but at the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter. All you need to know is that NodeBB plugs in to a wider social network so that you don’t have to cultivate an audience, they’re already there.

              The genesis

              It was back in mid-2023 when I had the initial idea of interconnecting NodeBB forums. Back then, I had far smaller ambitions… I wanted a singular NodeBB to be able to communicate with other forums running NodeBB. To do that, we’d need to build out a centralized service to act as a bridge between instances, and corresponding slim clients on individual installs to consume the relayed data. At the time, concept like decentralization were not even part of my thought process.

              It was during this period when I was doing my research that I stumbled on Mastodon, and later, ActivityPub, the protocol that powers it all. Since then, it’s been one wild ride getting NodeBB to speak the same language.

              Funding

              Soon after dipping my toes into all that Mastodon had to offer, I discovered the NLNet Foundation, and their corresponding fund — NGI Zero Core. With the promise of funding, NodeBB could fully commit to implementing the protocol in short order, instead of piece by piece over time. We sent in an application and were delighted to be approved for the August 2023 call.

              Their funding was instrumental in providing the financial stability to experiment with ActivityPub and to participate in developer circles, such as the SWICG, FediForum, and much more.

              The fund continues to operate, perhaps you could benefit, or donate to the cause. It has certainly made a difference to NodeBB.

              Federate, or not, it’s your choice

              NodeBB v4 comes shipped with the capability to interact with other NodeBB forums and any other ActivityPub-speaking software, right out of the box. We opted to make this a core feature instead of a plugin, since there were many changes made to core to support even the concept of accepting content from outside itself.

              To that end, any users upgrading from v3.x will automatically have federation disabled, in order to reduce surprise. Any new forums will federate automatically.

              You can turn federation on and off (and adjust some other fun toggles) directly from ACP > Settings > Federation (ActivityPub).

              Even after turning federation on, how you use it shapes how well connected you will be. There is no centralized authority artificially boosting your content, so the name of the game is establishing two-way follow relationships to other sites.

              The ActivityPub Equalizer

              We’re not alone in this journey to interoperate with other decentralized services. We’re not even the only forum software to attempt to do so.

              • Discourse has a working plugin.
              • Ghost is building out in the open.

              I specifically highlight these two because they both started in the early 2010s, same as NodeBB. It’s always been a bit of an informal competition between us, and we always checked in on what the others were doing (growth-wise, pricing-wise, etc.) Truth be told, I don’t think the ghost team ever really noticed NodeBB, but I digress…

              The funny thing about ActivityPub is that at the end of the day, the overarching goal of seamless communication breaks down any barriers between competing organizations.

              NodeBB and Discourse have been vying for the exact same market share (forums, community-building, self-started or enterprise) for over 10 years, and it was only after ActivityPub came around that the dev teams even started talking to one another.

              Funny how that works.

              So how does it all work?

              Our documentation portal has been updated with the latest information about the ActivityPub functionality in v4.

              If you have any questions about how it works or how to configure some aspect of it, please don’t hesitate to reach out in the corresponding v4 support thread.

              If you run NodeBB, the quickest way to see this in action is to upgrade to v4, and then paste this post’s URL into your search bar. It should show up automatically, and you should be able to read and reply to it, directly from your own forum. Neat!

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              xanatos@mastodon.gamedev.place
              wrote on 22. jan. 2025, 11.08 sidst redigeret af
              #49

              @julian Awesome, that's a nice addition to the Fediverse

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                wall_e@ioc.exchange
                wrote on 22. jan. 2025, 14.44 sidst redigeret af
                #50

                @julian haha now that reposting from fedi instances is possible, maybe you need to collapse the "... shared this topic N minutes ago", by default in the UI 😅

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                • J julian@community.nodebb.org
                  20. jan. 2025, 19.29

                  Today’s the day! 🎉

                  After nearly a full year in development, NodeBB v4.0.0 has landed, bringing federation between NodeBB instances (and a connection to the wider fediverse of social media) to forum software.

                  Fedi-what?

                  Fediverse! Here’s a TechCrunch primer about it, but at the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter. All you need to know is that NodeBB plugs in to a wider social network so that you don’t have to cultivate an audience, they’re already there.

                  The genesis

                  It was back in mid-2023 when I had the initial idea of interconnecting NodeBB forums. Back then, I had far smaller ambitions… I wanted a singular NodeBB to be able to communicate with other forums running NodeBB. To do that, we’d need to build out a centralized service to act as a bridge between instances, and corresponding slim clients on individual installs to consume the relayed data. At the time, concept like decentralization were not even part of my thought process.

                  It was during this period when I was doing my research that I stumbled on Mastodon, and later, ActivityPub, the protocol that powers it all. Since then, it’s been one wild ride getting NodeBB to speak the same language.

                  Funding

                  Soon after dipping my toes into all that Mastodon had to offer, I discovered the NLNet Foundation, and their corresponding fund — NGI Zero Core. With the promise of funding, NodeBB could fully commit to implementing the protocol in short order, instead of piece by piece over time. We sent in an application and were delighted to be approved for the August 2023 call.

                  Their funding was instrumental in providing the financial stability to experiment with ActivityPub and to participate in developer circles, such as the SWICG, FediForum, and much more.

                  The fund continues to operate, perhaps you could benefit, or donate to the cause. It has certainly made a difference to NodeBB.

                  Federate, or not, it’s your choice

                  NodeBB v4 comes shipped with the capability to interact with other NodeBB forums and any other ActivityPub-speaking software, right out of the box. We opted to make this a core feature instead of a plugin, since there were many changes made to core to support even the concept of accepting content from outside itself.

                  To that end, any users upgrading from v3.x will automatically have federation disabled, in order to reduce surprise. Any new forums will federate automatically.

                  You can turn federation on and off (and adjust some other fun toggles) directly from ACP > Settings > Federation (ActivityPub).

                  Even after turning federation on, how you use it shapes how well connected you will be. There is no centralized authority artificially boosting your content, so the name of the game is establishing two-way follow relationships to other sites.

                  The ActivityPub Equalizer

                  We’re not alone in this journey to interoperate with other decentralized services. We’re not even the only forum software to attempt to do so.

                  • Discourse has a working plugin.
                  • Ghost is building out in the open.

                  I specifically highlight these two because they both started in the early 2010s, same as NodeBB. It’s always been a bit of an informal competition between us, and we always checked in on what the others were doing (growth-wise, pricing-wise, etc.) Truth be told, I don’t think the ghost team ever really noticed NodeBB, but I digress…

                  The funny thing about ActivityPub is that at the end of the day, the overarching goal of seamless communication breaks down any barriers between competing organizations.

                  NodeBB and Discourse have been vying for the exact same market share (forums, community-building, self-started or enterprise) for over 10 years, and it was only after ActivityPub came around that the dev teams even started talking to one another.

                  Funny how that works.

                  So how does it all work?

                  Our documentation portal has been updated with the latest information about the ActivityPub functionality in v4.

                  If you have any questions about how it works or how to configure some aspect of it, please don’t hesitate to reach out in the corresponding v4 support thread.

                  If you run NodeBB, the quickest way to see this in action is to upgrade to v4, and then paste this post’s URL into your search bar. It should show up automatically, and you should be able to read and reply to it, directly from your own forum. Neat!

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                  phenomlab@sudonix.org
                  wrote on 22. jan. 2025, 16.28 sidst redigeret af
                  #51

                  This is a game changer - really looking forward to further interactions.

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                  • J julian@community.nodebb.org
                    20. jan. 2025, 19.29

                    Today’s the day! 🎉

                    After nearly a full year in development, NodeBB v4.0.0 has landed, bringing federation between NodeBB instances (and a connection to the wider fediverse of social media) to forum software.

                    Fedi-what?

                    Fediverse! Here’s a TechCrunch primer about it, but at the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter. All you need to know is that NodeBB plugs in to a wider social network so that you don’t have to cultivate an audience, they’re already there.

                    The genesis

                    It was back in mid-2023 when I had the initial idea of interconnecting NodeBB forums. Back then, I had far smaller ambitions… I wanted a singular NodeBB to be able to communicate with other forums running NodeBB. To do that, we’d need to build out a centralized service to act as a bridge between instances, and corresponding slim clients on individual installs to consume the relayed data. At the time, concept like decentralization were not even part of my thought process.

                    It was during this period when I was doing my research that I stumbled on Mastodon, and later, ActivityPub, the protocol that powers it all. Since then, it’s been one wild ride getting NodeBB to speak the same language.

                    Funding

                    Soon after dipping my toes into all that Mastodon had to offer, I discovered the NLNet Foundation, and their corresponding fund — NGI Zero Core. With the promise of funding, NodeBB could fully commit to implementing the protocol in short order, instead of piece by piece over time. We sent in an application and were delighted to be approved for the August 2023 call.

                    Their funding was instrumental in providing the financial stability to experiment with ActivityPub and to participate in developer circles, such as the SWICG, FediForum, and much more.

                    The fund continues to operate, perhaps you could benefit, or donate to the cause. It has certainly made a difference to NodeBB.

                    Federate, or not, it’s your choice

                    NodeBB v4 comes shipped with the capability to interact with other NodeBB forums and any other ActivityPub-speaking software, right out of the box. We opted to make this a core feature instead of a plugin, since there were many changes made to core to support even the concept of accepting content from outside itself.

                    To that end, any users upgrading from v3.x will automatically have federation disabled, in order to reduce surprise. Any new forums will federate automatically.

                    You can turn federation on and off (and adjust some other fun toggles) directly from ACP > Settings > Federation (ActivityPub).

                    Even after turning federation on, how you use it shapes how well connected you will be. There is no centralized authority artificially boosting your content, so the name of the game is establishing two-way follow relationships to other sites.

                    The ActivityPub Equalizer

                    We’re not alone in this journey to interoperate with other decentralized services. We’re not even the only forum software to attempt to do so.

                    • Discourse has a working plugin.
                    • Ghost is building out in the open.

                    I specifically highlight these two because they both started in the early 2010s, same as NodeBB. It’s always been a bit of an informal competition between us, and we always checked in on what the others were doing (growth-wise, pricing-wise, etc.) Truth be told, I don’t think the ghost team ever really noticed NodeBB, but I digress…

                    The funny thing about ActivityPub is that at the end of the day, the overarching goal of seamless communication breaks down any barriers between competing organizations.

                    NodeBB and Discourse have been vying for the exact same market share (forums, community-building, self-started or enterprise) for over 10 years, and it was only after ActivityPub came around that the dev teams even started talking to one another.

                    Funny how that works.

                    So how does it all work?

                    Our documentation portal has been updated with the latest information about the ActivityPub functionality in v4.

                    If you have any questions about how it works or how to configure some aspect of it, please don’t hesitate to reach out in the corresponding v4 support thread.

                    If you run NodeBB, the quickest way to see this in action is to upgrade to v4, and then paste this post’s URL into your search bar. It should show up automatically, and you should be able to read and reply to it, directly from your own forum. Neat!

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                    wenge@hachyderm.io
                    wrote on 22. jan. 2025, 17.28 sidst redigeret af
                    #52

                    @julian

                    Were you aware of FIDONET before you started?

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                    • J julian@community.nodebb.org
                      20. jan. 2025, 19.29

                      Today’s the day! 🎉

                      After nearly a full year in development, NodeBB v4.0.0 has landed, bringing federation between NodeBB instances (and a connection to the wider fediverse of social media) to forum software.

                      Fedi-what?

                      Fediverse! Here’s a TechCrunch primer about it, but at the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter. All you need to know is that NodeBB plugs in to a wider social network so that you don’t have to cultivate an audience, they’re already there.

                      The genesis

                      It was back in mid-2023 when I had the initial idea of interconnecting NodeBB forums. Back then, I had far smaller ambitions… I wanted a singular NodeBB to be able to communicate with other forums running NodeBB. To do that, we’d need to build out a centralized service to act as a bridge between instances, and corresponding slim clients on individual installs to consume the relayed data. At the time, concept like decentralization were not even part of my thought process.

                      It was during this period when I was doing my research that I stumbled on Mastodon, and later, ActivityPub, the protocol that powers it all. Since then, it’s been one wild ride getting NodeBB to speak the same language.

                      Funding

                      Soon after dipping my toes into all that Mastodon had to offer, I discovered the NLNet Foundation, and their corresponding fund — NGI Zero Core. With the promise of funding, NodeBB could fully commit to implementing the protocol in short order, instead of piece by piece over time. We sent in an application and were delighted to be approved for the August 2023 call.

                      Their funding was instrumental in providing the financial stability to experiment with ActivityPub and to participate in developer circles, such as the SWICG, FediForum, and much more.

                      The fund continues to operate, perhaps you could benefit, or donate to the cause. It has certainly made a difference to NodeBB.

                      Federate, or not, it’s your choice

                      NodeBB v4 comes shipped with the capability to interact with other NodeBB forums and any other ActivityPub-speaking software, right out of the box. We opted to make this a core feature instead of a plugin, since there were many changes made to core to support even the concept of accepting content from outside itself.

                      To that end, any users upgrading from v3.x will automatically have federation disabled, in order to reduce surprise. Any new forums will federate automatically.

                      You can turn federation on and off (and adjust some other fun toggles) directly from ACP > Settings > Federation (ActivityPub).

                      Even after turning federation on, how you use it shapes how well connected you will be. There is no centralized authority artificially boosting your content, so the name of the game is establishing two-way follow relationships to other sites.

                      The ActivityPub Equalizer

                      We’re not alone in this journey to interoperate with other decentralized services. We’re not even the only forum software to attempt to do so.

                      • Discourse has a working plugin.
                      • Ghost is building out in the open.

                      I specifically highlight these two because they both started in the early 2010s, same as NodeBB. It’s always been a bit of an informal competition between us, and we always checked in on what the others were doing (growth-wise, pricing-wise, etc.) Truth be told, I don’t think the ghost team ever really noticed NodeBB, but I digress…

                      The funny thing about ActivityPub is that at the end of the day, the overarching goal of seamless communication breaks down any barriers between competing organizations.

                      NodeBB and Discourse have been vying for the exact same market share (forums, community-building, self-started or enterprise) for over 10 years, and it was only after ActivityPub came around that the dev teams even started talking to one another.

                      Funny how that works.

                      So how does it all work?

                      Our documentation portal has been updated with the latest information about the ActivityPub functionality in v4.

                      If you have any questions about how it works or how to configure some aspect of it, please don’t hesitate to reach out in the corresponding v4 support thread.

                      If you run NodeBB, the quickest way to see this in action is to upgrade to v4, and then paste this post’s URL into your search bar. It should show up automatically, and you should be able to read and reply to it, directly from your own forum. Neat!

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                      darkpollo@community.nodebb.org
                      wrote on 22. jan. 2025, 22.23 sidst redigeret af
                      #53

                      @julian Amazing stuff.
                      Congratulations!!
                      I have some questions, probably because I am still trying to understand this activitypub thing.

                      1- If I write this reply here, that means is now public and can be read on other mastodon/activitypub servers/locations?

                      2- I saw people replying to you on another mastodon servers and their comments appear on the forum as replies, which is amazing, but, can they delete their messages on their mastodon server? And if they can, will that deletion be sent across and be removed from the database of this forum?

                      3- I also see that the people that replied, got an user and a profile on this forum, will they know about it? can they login and do something about that user? How do you identify “created social users” from “standard registered users” on your nodebb install?

                      Thanks!

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                      • D darkpollo@community.nodebb.org
                        22. jan. 2025, 22.23

                        @julian Amazing stuff.
                        Congratulations!!
                        I have some questions, probably because I am still trying to understand this activitypub thing.

                        1- If I write this reply here, that means is now public and can be read on other mastodon/activitypub servers/locations?

                        2- I saw people replying to you on another mastodon servers and their comments appear on the forum as replies, which is amazing, but, can they delete their messages on their mastodon server? And if they can, will that deletion be sent across and be removed from the database of this forum?

                        3- I also see that the people that replied, got an user and a profile on this forum, will they know about it? can they login and do something about that user? How do you identify “created social users” from “standard registered users” on your nodebb install?

                        Thanks!

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                        freamon@community.nodebb.org
                        wrote on 22. jan. 2025, 23.44 sidst redigeret af
                        #54

                        @darkpollo I’ll have a go at answering some of your questions, until something better comes along.

                        1. Yes. Here’s your reply on another server: link

                        2. Yes. I tested out creating and then deleting stuff from a remote account, and this forum acknowledged both.

                        3. Remote users don’t get any privileges - their profile on this forum is just a text copy of the one they have on their own platforms. In terms of identifying local vs. remote (visually, at least), you can hover over users and see whether they have an ‘@’ in their name. You could do the same programmatically, but I imagine that there’s better ways.

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                        • F freamon@community.nodebb.org
                          22. jan. 2025, 23.44

                          @darkpollo I’ll have a go at answering some of your questions, until something better comes along.

                          1. Yes. Here’s your reply on another server: link

                          2. Yes. I tested out creating and then deleting stuff from a remote account, and this forum acknowledged both.

                          3. Remote users don’t get any privileges - their profile on this forum is just a text copy of the one they have on their own platforms. In terms of identifying local vs. remote (visually, at least), you can hover over users and see whether they have an ‘@’ in their name. You could do the same programmatically, but I imagine that there’s better ways.

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                          julian@community.nodebb.org
                          wrote on 23. jan. 2025, 00.59 sidst redigeret af
                          #55

                          @freamon you got it all!

                          In addition, at least on NodeBB, when you tag someone remotely, the full handle appears (e.g. @nodebb@fosstodon.org)

                          You can tell local users from remote users in topics because they don’t have a status (online, away, dnd, etc.)… They just have a little 🌐 icon next to their avatar.

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                          • P phenomlab@sudonix.org
                            22. jan. 2025, 16.28

                            This is a game changer - really looking forward to further interactions.

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                            julian@community.nodebb.org
                            wrote on 23. jan. 2025, 01.11 sidst redigeret af
                            #56

                            @phenomlab@sudonix.org are you going to just reply remotely from your forum from now on 🤣

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                            • J julian@community.nodebb.org
                              23. jan. 2025, 01.11

                              @phenomlab@sudonix.org are you going to just reply remotely from your forum from now on 🤣

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                              phenomlab@sudonix.org
                              wrote on 23. jan. 2025, 01.13 sidst redigeret af
                              #57

                              @julian@community.nodebb.org yeah, no need to visit nodebb anymore!

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                              • J julian@community.nodebb.org
                                20. jan. 2025, 19.29

                                Today’s the day! 🎉

                                After nearly a full year in development, NodeBB v4.0.0 has landed, bringing federation between NodeBB instances (and a connection to the wider fediverse of social media) to forum software.

                                Fedi-what?

                                Fediverse! Here’s a TechCrunch primer about it, but at the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter. All you need to know is that NodeBB plugs in to a wider social network so that you don’t have to cultivate an audience, they’re already there.

                                The genesis

                                It was back in mid-2023 when I had the initial idea of interconnecting NodeBB forums. Back then, I had far smaller ambitions… I wanted a singular NodeBB to be able to communicate with other forums running NodeBB. To do that, we’d need to build out a centralized service to act as a bridge between instances, and corresponding slim clients on individual installs to consume the relayed data. At the time, concept like decentralization were not even part of my thought process.

                                It was during this period when I was doing my research that I stumbled on Mastodon, and later, ActivityPub, the protocol that powers it all. Since then, it’s been one wild ride getting NodeBB to speak the same language.

                                Funding

                                Soon after dipping my toes into all that Mastodon had to offer, I discovered the NLNet Foundation, and their corresponding fund — NGI Zero Core. With the promise of funding, NodeBB could fully commit to implementing the protocol in short order, instead of piece by piece over time. We sent in an application and were delighted to be approved for the August 2023 call.

                                Their funding was instrumental in providing the financial stability to experiment with ActivityPub and to participate in developer circles, such as the SWICG, FediForum, and much more.

                                The fund continues to operate, perhaps you could benefit, or donate to the cause. It has certainly made a difference to NodeBB.

                                Federate, or not, it’s your choice

                                NodeBB v4 comes shipped with the capability to interact with other NodeBB forums and any other ActivityPub-speaking software, right out of the box. We opted to make this a core feature instead of a plugin, since there were many changes made to core to support even the concept of accepting content from outside itself.

                                To that end, any users upgrading from v3.x will automatically have federation disabled, in order to reduce surprise. Any new forums will federate automatically.

                                You can turn federation on and off (and adjust some other fun toggles) directly from ACP > Settings > Federation (ActivityPub).

                                Even after turning federation on, how you use it shapes how well connected you will be. There is no centralized authority artificially boosting your content, so the name of the game is establishing two-way follow relationships to other sites.

                                The ActivityPub Equalizer

                                We’re not alone in this journey to interoperate with other decentralized services. We’re not even the only forum software to attempt to do so.

                                • Discourse has a working plugin.
                                • Ghost is building out in the open.

                                I specifically highlight these two because they both started in the early 2010s, same as NodeBB. It’s always been a bit of an informal competition between us, and we always checked in on what the others were doing (growth-wise, pricing-wise, etc.) Truth be told, I don’t think the ghost team ever really noticed NodeBB, but I digress…

                                The funny thing about ActivityPub is that at the end of the day, the overarching goal of seamless communication breaks down any barriers between competing organizations.

                                NodeBB and Discourse have been vying for the exact same market share (forums, community-building, self-started or enterprise) for over 10 years, and it was only after ActivityPub came around that the dev teams even started talking to one another.

                                Funny how that works.

                                So how does it all work?

                                Our documentation portal has been updated with the latest information about the ActivityPub functionality in v4.

                                If you have any questions about how it works or how to configure some aspect of it, please don’t hesitate to reach out in the corresponding v4 support thread.

                                If you run NodeBB, the quickest way to see this in action is to upgrade to v4, and then paste this post’s URL into your search bar. It should show up automatically, and you should be able to read and reply to it, directly from your own forum. Neat!

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                                scott@loves.tech
                                wrote on 23. jan. 2025, 03.29 sidst redigeret af
                                #58
                                Amazing work. Congratulations on this milestone!
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                                • J julian@community.nodebb.org
                                  20. jan. 2025, 19.29

                                  Today’s the day! 🎉

                                  After nearly a full year in development, NodeBB v4.0.0 has landed, bringing federation between NodeBB instances (and a connection to the wider fediverse of social media) to forum software.

                                  Fedi-what?

                                  Fediverse! Here’s a TechCrunch primer about it, but at the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter. All you need to know is that NodeBB plugs in to a wider social network so that you don’t have to cultivate an audience, they’re already there.

                                  The genesis

                                  It was back in mid-2023 when I had the initial idea of interconnecting NodeBB forums. Back then, I had far smaller ambitions… I wanted a singular NodeBB to be able to communicate with other forums running NodeBB. To do that, we’d need to build out a centralized service to act as a bridge between instances, and corresponding slim clients on individual installs to consume the relayed data. At the time, concept like decentralization were not even part of my thought process.

                                  It was during this period when I was doing my research that I stumbled on Mastodon, and later, ActivityPub, the protocol that powers it all. Since then, it’s been one wild ride getting NodeBB to speak the same language.

                                  Funding

                                  Soon after dipping my toes into all that Mastodon had to offer, I discovered the NLNet Foundation, and their corresponding fund — NGI Zero Core. With the promise of funding, NodeBB could fully commit to implementing the protocol in short order, instead of piece by piece over time. We sent in an application and were delighted to be approved for the August 2023 call.

                                  Their funding was instrumental in providing the financial stability to experiment with ActivityPub and to participate in developer circles, such as the SWICG, FediForum, and much more.

                                  The fund continues to operate, perhaps you could benefit, or donate to the cause. It has certainly made a difference to NodeBB.

                                  Federate, or not, it’s your choice

                                  NodeBB v4 comes shipped with the capability to interact with other NodeBB forums and any other ActivityPub-speaking software, right out of the box. We opted to make this a core feature instead of a plugin, since there were many changes made to core to support even the concept of accepting content from outside itself.

                                  To that end, any users upgrading from v3.x will automatically have federation disabled, in order to reduce surprise. Any new forums will federate automatically.

                                  You can turn federation on and off (and adjust some other fun toggles) directly from ACP > Settings > Federation (ActivityPub).

                                  Even after turning federation on, how you use it shapes how well connected you will be. There is no centralized authority artificially boosting your content, so the name of the game is establishing two-way follow relationships to other sites.

                                  The ActivityPub Equalizer

                                  We’re not alone in this journey to interoperate with other decentralized services. We’re not even the only forum software to attempt to do so.

                                  • Discourse has a working plugin.
                                  • Ghost is building out in the open.

                                  I specifically highlight these two because they both started in the early 2010s, same as NodeBB. It’s always been a bit of an informal competition between us, and we always checked in on what the others were doing (growth-wise, pricing-wise, etc.) Truth be told, I don’t think the ghost team ever really noticed NodeBB, but I digress…

                                  The funny thing about ActivityPub is that at the end of the day, the overarching goal of seamless communication breaks down any barriers between competing organizations.

                                  NodeBB and Discourse have been vying for the exact same market share (forums, community-building, self-started or enterprise) for over 10 years, and it was only after ActivityPub came around that the dev teams even started talking to one another.

                                  Funny how that works.

                                  So how does it all work?

                                  Our documentation portal has been updated with the latest information about the ActivityPub functionality in v4.

                                  If you have any questions about how it works or how to configure some aspect of it, please don’t hesitate to reach out in the corresponding v4 support thread.

                                  If you run NodeBB, the quickest way to see this in action is to upgrade to v4, and then paste this post’s URL into your search bar. It should show up automatically, and you should be able to read and reply to it, directly from your own forum. Neat!

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                                  cagatay@sudonix.org
                                  wrote on 23. jan. 2025, 07.29 sidst redigeret af
                                  #59

                                  https://efelsefe.com/topic/5e1f786d-4097-4471-b2fb-242b9602638c/nodebb-v4.0.0-federate-good-times-come-on

                                  The comments are not visible on my web site.

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                                  • J julian@community.nodebb.org
                                    20. jan. 2025, 19.29

                                    Today’s the day! 🎉

                                    After nearly a full year in development, NodeBB v4.0.0 has landed, bringing federation between NodeBB instances (and a connection to the wider fediverse of social media) to forum software.

                                    Fedi-what?

                                    Fediverse! Here’s a TechCrunch primer about it, but at the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter. All you need to know is that NodeBB plugs in to a wider social network so that you don’t have to cultivate an audience, they’re already there.

                                    The genesis

                                    It was back in mid-2023 when I had the initial idea of interconnecting NodeBB forums. Back then, I had far smaller ambitions… I wanted a singular NodeBB to be able to communicate with other forums running NodeBB. To do that, we’d need to build out a centralized service to act as a bridge between instances, and corresponding slim clients on individual installs to consume the relayed data. At the time, concept like decentralization were not even part of my thought process.

                                    It was during this period when I was doing my research that I stumbled on Mastodon, and later, ActivityPub, the protocol that powers it all. Since then, it’s been one wild ride getting NodeBB to speak the same language.

                                    Funding

                                    Soon after dipping my toes into all that Mastodon had to offer, I discovered the NLNet Foundation, and their corresponding fund — NGI Zero Core. With the promise of funding, NodeBB could fully commit to implementing the protocol in short order, instead of piece by piece over time. We sent in an application and were delighted to be approved for the August 2023 call.

                                    Their funding was instrumental in providing the financial stability to experiment with ActivityPub and to participate in developer circles, such as the SWICG, FediForum, and much more.

                                    The fund continues to operate, perhaps you could benefit, or donate to the cause. It has certainly made a difference to NodeBB.

                                    Federate, or not, it’s your choice

                                    NodeBB v4 comes shipped with the capability to interact with other NodeBB forums and any other ActivityPub-speaking software, right out of the box. We opted to make this a core feature instead of a plugin, since there were many changes made to core to support even the concept of accepting content from outside itself.

                                    To that end, any users upgrading from v3.x will automatically have federation disabled, in order to reduce surprise. Any new forums will federate automatically.

                                    You can turn federation on and off (and adjust some other fun toggles) directly from ACP > Settings > Federation (ActivityPub).

                                    Even after turning federation on, how you use it shapes how well connected you will be. There is no centralized authority artificially boosting your content, so the name of the game is establishing two-way follow relationships to other sites.

                                    The ActivityPub Equalizer

                                    We’re not alone in this journey to interoperate with other decentralized services. We’re not even the only forum software to attempt to do so.

                                    • Discourse has a working plugin.
                                    • Ghost is building out in the open.

                                    I specifically highlight these two because they both started in the early 2010s, same as NodeBB. It’s always been a bit of an informal competition between us, and we always checked in on what the others were doing (growth-wise, pricing-wise, etc.) Truth be told, I don’t think the ghost team ever really noticed NodeBB, but I digress…

                                    The funny thing about ActivityPub is that at the end of the day, the overarching goal of seamless communication breaks down any barriers between competing organizations.

                                    NodeBB and Discourse have been vying for the exact same market share (forums, community-building, self-started or enterprise) for over 10 years, and it was only after ActivityPub came around that the dev teams even started talking to one another.

                                    Funny how that works.

                                    So how does it all work?

                                    Our documentation portal has been updated with the latest information about the ActivityPub functionality in v4.

                                    If you have any questions about how it works or how to configure some aspect of it, please don’t hesitate to reach out in the corresponding v4 support thread.

                                    If you run NodeBB, the quickest way to see this in action is to upgrade to v4, and then paste this post’s URL into your search bar. It should show up automatically, and you should be able to read and reply to it, directly from your own forum. Neat!

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                                    phi@efelsefe.com
                                    wrote on 23. jan. 2025, 07.29 sidst redigeret af
                                    #60

                                    Check and control.

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                                    • J julian@community.nodebb.org
                                      20. jan. 2025, 19.29

                                      Today’s the day! 🎉

                                      After nearly a full year in development, NodeBB v4.0.0 has landed, bringing federation between NodeBB instances (and a connection to the wider fediverse of social media) to forum software.

                                      Fedi-what?

                                      Fediverse! Here’s a TechCrunch primer about it, but at the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter. All you need to know is that NodeBB plugs in to a wider social network so that you don’t have to cultivate an audience, they’re already there.

                                      The genesis

                                      It was back in mid-2023 when I had the initial idea of interconnecting NodeBB forums. Back then, I had far smaller ambitions… I wanted a singular NodeBB to be able to communicate with other forums running NodeBB. To do that, we’d need to build out a centralized service to act as a bridge between instances, and corresponding slim clients on individual installs to consume the relayed data. At the time, concept like decentralization were not even part of my thought process.

                                      It was during this period when I was doing my research that I stumbled on Mastodon, and later, ActivityPub, the protocol that powers it all. Since then, it’s been one wild ride getting NodeBB to speak the same language.

                                      Funding

                                      Soon after dipping my toes into all that Mastodon had to offer, I discovered the NLNet Foundation, and their corresponding fund — NGI Zero Core. With the promise of funding, NodeBB could fully commit to implementing the protocol in short order, instead of piece by piece over time. We sent in an application and were delighted to be approved for the August 2023 call.

                                      Their funding was instrumental in providing the financial stability to experiment with ActivityPub and to participate in developer circles, such as the SWICG, FediForum, and much more.

                                      The fund continues to operate, perhaps you could benefit, or donate to the cause. It has certainly made a difference to NodeBB.

                                      Federate, or not, it’s your choice

                                      NodeBB v4 comes shipped with the capability to interact with other NodeBB forums and any other ActivityPub-speaking software, right out of the box. We opted to make this a core feature instead of a plugin, since there were many changes made to core to support even the concept of accepting content from outside itself.

                                      To that end, any users upgrading from v3.x will automatically have federation disabled, in order to reduce surprise. Any new forums will federate automatically.

                                      You can turn federation on and off (and adjust some other fun toggles) directly from ACP > Settings > Federation (ActivityPub).

                                      Even after turning federation on, how you use it shapes how well connected you will be. There is no centralized authority artificially boosting your content, so the name of the game is establishing two-way follow relationships to other sites.

                                      The ActivityPub Equalizer

                                      We’re not alone in this journey to interoperate with other decentralized services. We’re not even the only forum software to attempt to do so.

                                      • Discourse has a working plugin.
                                      • Ghost is building out in the open.

                                      I specifically highlight these two because they both started in the early 2010s, same as NodeBB. It’s always been a bit of an informal competition between us, and we always checked in on what the others were doing (growth-wise, pricing-wise, etc.) Truth be told, I don’t think the ghost team ever really noticed NodeBB, but I digress…

                                      The funny thing about ActivityPub is that at the end of the day, the overarching goal of seamless communication breaks down any barriers between competing organizations.

                                      NodeBB and Discourse have been vying for the exact same market share (forums, community-building, self-started or enterprise) for over 10 years, and it was only after ActivityPub came around that the dev teams even started talking to one another.

                                      Funny how that works.

                                      So how does it all work?

                                      Our documentation portal has been updated with the latest information about the ActivityPub functionality in v4.

                                      If you have any questions about how it works or how to configure some aspect of it, please don’t hesitate to reach out in the corresponding v4 support thread.

                                      If you run NodeBB, the quickest way to see this in action is to upgrade to v4, and then paste this post’s URL into your search bar. It should show up automatically, and you should be able to read and reply to it, directly from your own forum. Neat!

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                                      phenomlab@community.nodebb.org
                                      wrote on 23. jan. 2025, 11.31 sidst redigeret af
                                      #61

                                      They appear on mine @cagatay but not on yours. Not sure why.

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                                      • J julian@community.nodebb.org
                                        20. jan. 2025, 19.29

                                        Today’s the day! 🎉

                                        After nearly a full year in development, NodeBB v4.0.0 has landed, bringing federation between NodeBB instances (and a connection to the wider fediverse of social media) to forum software.

                                        Fedi-what?

                                        Fediverse! Here’s a TechCrunch primer about it, but at the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter. All you need to know is that NodeBB plugs in to a wider social network so that you don’t have to cultivate an audience, they’re already there.

                                        The genesis

                                        It was back in mid-2023 when I had the initial idea of interconnecting NodeBB forums. Back then, I had far smaller ambitions… I wanted a singular NodeBB to be able to communicate with other forums running NodeBB. To do that, we’d need to build out a centralized service to act as a bridge between instances, and corresponding slim clients on individual installs to consume the relayed data. At the time, concept like decentralization were not even part of my thought process.

                                        It was during this period when I was doing my research that I stumbled on Mastodon, and later, ActivityPub, the protocol that powers it all. Since then, it’s been one wild ride getting NodeBB to speak the same language.

                                        Funding

                                        Soon after dipping my toes into all that Mastodon had to offer, I discovered the NLNet Foundation, and their corresponding fund — NGI Zero Core. With the promise of funding, NodeBB could fully commit to implementing the protocol in short order, instead of piece by piece over time. We sent in an application and were delighted to be approved for the August 2023 call.

                                        Their funding was instrumental in providing the financial stability to experiment with ActivityPub and to participate in developer circles, such as the SWICG, FediForum, and much more.

                                        The fund continues to operate, perhaps you could benefit, or donate to the cause. It has certainly made a difference to NodeBB.

                                        Federate, or not, it’s your choice

                                        NodeBB v4 comes shipped with the capability to interact with other NodeBB forums and any other ActivityPub-speaking software, right out of the box. We opted to make this a core feature instead of a plugin, since there were many changes made to core to support even the concept of accepting content from outside itself.

                                        To that end, any users upgrading from v3.x will automatically have federation disabled, in order to reduce surprise. Any new forums will federate automatically.

                                        You can turn federation on and off (and adjust some other fun toggles) directly from ACP > Settings > Federation (ActivityPub).

                                        Even after turning federation on, how you use it shapes how well connected you will be. There is no centralized authority artificially boosting your content, so the name of the game is establishing two-way follow relationships to other sites.

                                        The ActivityPub Equalizer

                                        We’re not alone in this journey to interoperate with other decentralized services. We’re not even the only forum software to attempt to do so.

                                        • Discourse has a working plugin.
                                        • Ghost is building out in the open.

                                        I specifically highlight these two because they both started in the early 2010s, same as NodeBB. It’s always been a bit of an informal competition between us, and we always checked in on what the others were doing (growth-wise, pricing-wise, etc.) Truth be told, I don’t think the ghost team ever really noticed NodeBB, but I digress…

                                        The funny thing about ActivityPub is that at the end of the day, the overarching goal of seamless communication breaks down any barriers between competing organizations.

                                        NodeBB and Discourse have been vying for the exact same market share (forums, community-building, self-started or enterprise) for over 10 years, and it was only after ActivityPub came around that the dev teams even started talking to one another.

                                        Funny how that works.

                                        So how does it all work?

                                        Our documentation portal has been updated with the latest information about the ActivityPub functionality in v4.

                                        If you have any questions about how it works or how to configure some aspect of it, please don’t hesitate to reach out in the corresponding v4 support thread.

                                        If you run NodeBB, the quickest way to see this in action is to upgrade to v4, and then paste this post’s URL into your search bar. It should show up automatically, and you should be able to read and reply to it, directly from your own forum. Neat!

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                                        phi@efelsefe.com
                                        wrote on 23. jan. 2025, 13.26 sidst redigeret af
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                                        this message from efelsefe.com

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                                        • J julian@community.nodebb.org
                                          20. jan. 2025, 19.29

                                          Today’s the day! 🎉

                                          After nearly a full year in development, NodeBB v4.0.0 has landed, bringing federation between NodeBB instances (and a connection to the wider fediverse of social media) to forum software.

                                          Fedi-what?

                                          Fediverse! Here’s a TechCrunch primer about it, but at the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter. All you need to know is that NodeBB plugs in to a wider social network so that you don’t have to cultivate an audience, they’re already there.

                                          The genesis

                                          It was back in mid-2023 when I had the initial idea of interconnecting NodeBB forums. Back then, I had far smaller ambitions… I wanted a singular NodeBB to be able to communicate with other forums running NodeBB. To do that, we’d need to build out a centralized service to act as a bridge between instances, and corresponding slim clients on individual installs to consume the relayed data. At the time, concept like decentralization were not even part of my thought process.

                                          It was during this period when I was doing my research that I stumbled on Mastodon, and later, ActivityPub, the protocol that powers it all. Since then, it’s been one wild ride getting NodeBB to speak the same language.

                                          Funding

                                          Soon after dipping my toes into all that Mastodon had to offer, I discovered the NLNet Foundation, and their corresponding fund — NGI Zero Core. With the promise of funding, NodeBB could fully commit to implementing the protocol in short order, instead of piece by piece over time. We sent in an application and were delighted to be approved for the August 2023 call.

                                          Their funding was instrumental in providing the financial stability to experiment with ActivityPub and to participate in developer circles, such as the SWICG, FediForum, and much more.

                                          The fund continues to operate, perhaps you could benefit, or donate to the cause. It has certainly made a difference to NodeBB.

                                          Federate, or not, it’s your choice

                                          NodeBB v4 comes shipped with the capability to interact with other NodeBB forums and any other ActivityPub-speaking software, right out of the box. We opted to make this a core feature instead of a plugin, since there were many changes made to core to support even the concept of accepting content from outside itself.

                                          To that end, any users upgrading from v3.x will automatically have federation disabled, in order to reduce surprise. Any new forums will federate automatically.

                                          You can turn federation on and off (and adjust some other fun toggles) directly from ACP > Settings > Federation (ActivityPub).

                                          Even after turning federation on, how you use it shapes how well connected you will be. There is no centralized authority artificially boosting your content, so the name of the game is establishing two-way follow relationships to other sites.

                                          The ActivityPub Equalizer

                                          We’re not alone in this journey to interoperate with other decentralized services. We’re not even the only forum software to attempt to do so.

                                          • Discourse has a working plugin.
                                          • Ghost is building out in the open.

                                          I specifically highlight these two because they both started in the early 2010s, same as NodeBB. It’s always been a bit of an informal competition between us, and we always checked in on what the others were doing (growth-wise, pricing-wise, etc.) Truth be told, I don’t think the ghost team ever really noticed NodeBB, but I digress…

                                          The funny thing about ActivityPub is that at the end of the day, the overarching goal of seamless communication breaks down any barriers between competing organizations.

                                          NodeBB and Discourse have been vying for the exact same market share (forums, community-building, self-started or enterprise) for over 10 years, and it was only after ActivityPub came around that the dev teams even started talking to one another.

                                          Funny how that works.

                                          So how does it all work?

                                          Our documentation portal has been updated with the latest information about the ActivityPub functionality in v4.

                                          If you have any questions about how it works or how to configure some aspect of it, please don’t hesitate to reach out in the corresponding v4 support thread.

                                          If you run NodeBB, the quickest way to see this in action is to upgrade to v4, and then paste this post’s URL into your search bar. It should show up automatically, and you should be able to read and reply to it, directly from your own forum. Neat!

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                                          morloi@livellosegreto.it
                                          wrote on 23. jan. 2025, 13.27 sidst redigeret af
                                          #63

                                          @julian just a comment from Mastodon, to try

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